Time Nick Message 16:42 owen kados around, by any chance? 16:43 chris owen: u tried this http://simms.celt.dias.ie/~gavin/opac/ ? 16:43 chris its zippy 16:44 owen What's experimental about it? Do you know the story? 16:44 chris are you on the koha-devel list? 16:44 chris see the message from gavin 16:44 owen yeah, but I haven't caught up in the last couple days 16:44 chris ahh 16:44 chris that will explain it 16:45 chris hes got some ideas worth trying to speed up the opac 16:45 chris but now i must go to my meeting 16:46 owen Definitely speedy 16:53 GenjiZzZz rach: whenever you see this, have a look at the sidebar again, ive implemented the branch search. search for 'reincarnation' then search within, select Wellington. two test items will result. 18:09 Genjiaway hiya. back from shower. 23:35 Genji a quiet day in koha channel. 02:14 Genji hiya paul 02:14 paul helly Genju 02:14 paul (Genji, sorry) 02:17 Genji how goes? 02:59 JYL57 hello 02:59 paul hello le nord est ;-) 02:59 hdl hello 02:59 JYL57 Salut Paul ! 02:59 JYL57 salut hdl 03:00 JYL57 j'ai des maintenances à faire pour Koha, 2.2.3 pour bientôt ?! 03:01 JYL57 Paul, j'ai déjà posé la question à hdl il y a qques semaines, mais on m'en reparle ici... 03:01 JYL57 comment faire pour une recherche sur nom + prénom ?! 03:01 paul fin de semaine voitre semaine prochaine. 03:01 paul dans quel écran ? 03:01 JYL57 intranet + opac 03:02 paul je ne comprends pas la question. 03:02 JYL57 on a bien une zone auteur, mais on stocke pas le prénom 03:02 paul ah, ok, je pensai que tu parlais des lecteurs... 03:02 paul pour étendre les recherches, tu peux utiliser le "see also". 03:02 JYL57 chez nous dans l'OPAC par exemple, personne ne trouve "victor hugo" ! 03:02 paul le prénom est ou chez vous ? 03:03 paul (et le nom ?) 03:03 JYL57 je crois que c'est en 700 quelque chose... (avec Jocker!) 03:04 JYL57 ce qui est sûr, c'est que prénom et noms sont séparés !! 03:05 paul l'auteur doit être dans le 200$f 03:05 paul donc : 03:05 paul Koha >> Paramètres >> grilles de catalogage >> grille par défaut >> 200 >> modifier 03:05 paul dans la zone seealso, tu entres '700a','700b' 03:06 paul avec les ' et une virgule entre chaque zone 03:06 JYL57 oui, j'ai déjà fait ça je crois... 03:06 paul dorénavant, toutes les recherches sur l'auteur inclueront automatiquement les champs 700a et b 03:06 JYL57 ça a marché pour la recherche sur titre + sous-titre 03:06 paul et bien tu n'as plus qu'à le faire pour les auteurs. 03:06 paul ;-) 03:06 JYL57 bon, il faut que je vérifie mes paramétrages... 03:07 JYL57 autre point si tu as 2 mn 03:07 JYL57 nos perfs tombent un peu en ce moment 03:07 JYL57 Il y a pas un reindex à lancer sur mysql ??! 03:08 JYL57 j'ai pas vu ça dans les docs d'admin sur kohadocs... 03:09 JYL57 faut dire qu'on est passé de 500 à 5000 bouquins et de 10 à 300 lecteurs...faut sûrement réaligner les index ! 03:10 paul mmm... a priori rien à faire 03:10 paul c'est quoi votre serveur ? 03:10 JYL57 paul, je reviens sur le 'see also'. Il génère un OR dans la clause where ?! 03:10 paul ??? 03:11 JYL57 c'est un bon pentium avec 512 Mo et Mysql 4.0 je crois. 03:11 paul et la chute de perf est réellement importante ? 03:11 paul j'ai un client avec 50 000 documents et une grille unimarc très grosse 03:11 JYL57 si il fait 'select... where nom = 'victor hugo' Or prenom = 'victor hugo', ça m'aide pas ! 03:11 paul et il n'a pas trop de pb d perfs. 03:12 paul ben non, évidemment. Il cherche les 2 séparémment. Koha n'est pas bète ;-) 03:12 paul (et pour ca, il emploie des tables d'index spécifiques) 03:12 JYL57 pour les perfs, j'y passe tout à l'heure alors je jugerai... 03:12 JYL57 Ok, good ! 03:13 JYL57 tu confirmes qu'il n'y à pas d'administration à faire sur le mysql ?! 03:14 paul je confirme 03:14 JYL57 Merci ! bonne journée ! 03:14 paul bonne journée 03:18 Genji ah. how goes paul? 03:19 paul Genji, i'm fine, thanks. 03:19 paul (a lot of frenchies today... 03:19 paul ) 03:19 Genji so i noticed. 03:19 Genji #koha has been rather dead, today. 03:20 paul yes, somtimes quiet, sometimes very busy... 03:20 osmoze hello all 03:21 Genji Ahhhhh! 03:23 JYL57 paul, hdl , j'ai oublié une question 03:23 Genji okay, an easy way to insert my little sidebar into any template, is for the template editor of a specific template to create a table, enclose their normal body in one column, and TMPL_INCLUDE NAME="Sidebar.inc" in the other column..... that would work? 03:24 JYL57 comment gérer les nouveautés ?! j'explique: on souhaite les identifier à l'entrée et éventuellement au retour 03:24 paul genji, tables should not be used for such things. 03:24 paul maybe a <div id="bloc20"> should do what' you're looking for 03:25 paul in HTML, tables should be only used to show lists of datas, not to place things on the page. 03:25 paul anyway, don't hesitate to commit to cvs-head, as it's developper area. 03:25 Genji if i remember how. 03:25 paul so, even if it's not perfect, someone will take care of it, for sure. 03:26 paul JYL57 : question complexe, qui n'a pas de réponse uniqe. 03:26 JYL57 suis preneur pour une solution simple ! 03:26 JYL57 si itemtype = 'nouveaute' je peux contrôler la diffusion, mais je pers le type de document... 03:27 Genji Regarder juste la traduction m'a incité à penser. "ce qui ??" 03:27 JYL57 Sorry Genji, you're right, I should speak english here... 03:28 Genji hehe 03:28 Genji hey, it was fun using babelfish. 03:28 paul (in fact, we should speak english when english ppl are here. otherwise, french is fine) 03:28 Genji am taking for a simple solution! if itemtype = ' nouveaute' I can control the sea-green diffusion, but I the type of document... 03:28 Genji sea-green diffusion? 03:28 JYL57 Nope ! as Koha is international, english is useful 03:30 JYL57 perdre = to lose 03:30 JYL57 je perds = I'm losing 03:32 JYL57 Paul, rereading the log I understand that Koha searches for name and then for surname ("Il cherche les 2 séparémment") ?! 03:32 paul of course. 03:33 JYL57 can you explain or point me to the search syntax ?! 03:33 JYL57 Ok, but I have neither name = 'victor hugo' nor surname = 'victor hugo' !! 03:34 JYL57 I do have part of my search in two separate fields ! 03:34 paul don't care about how koha do a search. It works, that should be enough for you ;-) 03:35 JYL57 Ok 03:35 paul (in fact, it search into a table where words are stored 1 by 1) 03:35 JYL57 marc_word 03:35 paul (so searching victor hugo means searching biblios that have victor & hugo as word) 03:35 paul yes 03:36 JYL57 Ok, another final one ! any way to populaye back from koha to marc_tables ?! 03:36 paul populate what ? 03:36 JYL57 s/populaye/populate/ 03:36 JYL57 itemtype 03:37 JYL57 I've changed the bulkmarcimport script, it's ok for new biblio, but I can't redo my already stored ones 03:37 JYL57 I had tried to hack the bulkmarcimport with a new /u option (for update) 03:38 paul you need to use NEWmodbiblio instead of NEWnewbiblio 03:38 JYL57 but it failed... It would be useful for many people I think 03:38 paul (it will destroy any local data, except items) 03:38 Genji paul, by the way, think it was you who took out my bugfix to modsubject... 03:40 JYL57 I used newmodbiblio but wasn't successful if I remember well, will try again soon for sure ! 03:43 paul Genji what about modsubject hack ? 03:43 Genji sub modsubject { 03:43 Genji my ( $bibnum, $force, @subject ) = @_; 03:43 Genji my $dbh = C4::Context->dbh; 03:43 Genji my $error = &OLDmodsubject( $dbh, $bibnum, $force, @subject ); 03:43 Genji return ($error); 03:43 Genji } # sub modsubject 03:44 Genji doesn't update marc. so, useless for catalogsearch. 03:44 Genji fix. 03:44 Genji insert this between my $error and return. 03:44 Genji if ($error eq ''){ 03:44 Genji # When MARC is off, ensures that the MARC biblio table gets updated with new 03:44 Genji # subjects, of course, it deletes the biblio in marc, and then recreates. 03:44 Genji # This check is to ensure that no MARC data exists to lose. 03:45 Genji if (C4::Context->preference("MARC") eq '0'){ 03:45 Genji my $MARCRecord = &MARCkoha2marcBiblio($dbh,$bibnum); 03:45 Genji my $bibid = &MARCfind_MARCbibid_from_oldbiblionumber($dbh,$bibnum); 03:45 Genji &MARCmodbiblio($dbh,$bibid, $MARCRecord); 03:45 Genji } 03:45 Genji } 03:45 Genji works well in my install. 03:47 paul when did i took out this fix ? 03:58 Genji itemtype has the same problem. transfering a book doesn't update the marc database with new holdingbranch info. 03:58 Genji only the old db. 03:58 Genji err.. not itemtype... items.holdingbranch. 07:17 Genji whens the bugfixing session? 07:17 Genji in 2 hours? 07:20 Genji eh yes.. in two hours... hrm.... ill try for a short nap.. 07:43 paul ca s'en va et ca revient ;-) 07:47 FrancoisL C'est une chanson populaire... 08:06 kados hi all 08:06 kados does anyone know: do we fully support UNICODE in Koha? 08:06 paul 'morning joshua 08:06 paul not at al. 08:06 paul but that's something SAN want to implement 08:07 kados right 08:07 kados hi paul :-) 08:07 kados today I will test your scripts 08:07 kados after the bugsquashing session 08:08 paul results are really great on my biggest DB, so they should be atonishing for you. 08:08 kados I'm excited to try it! 08:08 FrancoisL Hi, Paul & Joshua ! I don't know if UNICODE will make it this year - the list is already quite long... 08:08 paul (& i'm sure it can be improved. For example, no need to index the old title. only 10-15 chars should be enough) 08:08 paul (resulting in a smaller table 08:08 paul francoisL, I agree with you 08:08 kados hmmm ... why not index the old title? 08:09 paul (did you see my request for a phone coll ?) 08:09 kados no ... 08:09 paul ??? kados ? 08:09 kados paul: I didn't see request for a phone call ... 08:09 paul (sorry, the phone call request is for francoisL) 08:09 kados ahh 08:09 kados :-) 08:09 paul (private msg) 08:10 kados so does Koha support UNICODE in the DB at least? 08:10 paul yes, if you setup mysql with it 08:10 paul but for searches you may have some trouble. 08:11 FrancoisL ??? Paul: where did you request the phone call ? I'll call you in 10 minutes... ? 08:11 paul (francois L : a little private irc message 3 minuts ago) 08:12 paul (in 10mn it's OK. It's to speak of SAN, of course) 08:12 FrancoisL (Sorry : did not see it - it's there though... My fault. I call you in 5 minutes) 08:13 hdl hi kados 08:13 hdl and all 08:21 kados hi hdl 08:30 kados First Bugsquashing Session in 30 minutes 08:35 kados anyone have indradg's email address? 08:45 kados T Minus 15 minutes till the first Bugsquashing Session 08:50 kados T Minus 10 minutes till the first Bugsquashing Session 08:56 kados T Minus 05 minutes till the first Bugsquashing Session 09:00 kados OK ... Bugsquashing Time 09:00 kados Who's here? 09:00 paul i'm here 09:00 paul (as well as hdl) 09:00 kados :-) 09:01 kados indradg and slef said they would be here too ... let's give them a minute or three ;-) 09:01 kados anyone have' indradg's email address? 09:02 kados so before they arrive, let's decide how to query the bugzilla ;-) 09:02 kados I created a query 2.2 and HEAD: all bugs except enhancement requests 09:02 GenjiNap hiya 09:02 GenjiNap im here 09:02 kados hey Genji ... welcome ;-) 09:02 Genji took a beautiful nap. 09:03 kados with that query I get 87 bugs listed 09:03 paul Genji i've commited you modsubject code in 2.2 09:03 kados does this query sound ok to everyone? 09:04 kados (the query is saved ) 09:04 Genji sure. 09:04 paul how can I run it ? 09:04 kados ok ... so ... I guess we will start without slef and indradg 09:04 kados paul: it should be listed under saved queries 09:05 paul (i've only mine, not yours) 09:05 kados Run the remembered query 09:05 kados strange 09:05 kados maybe it's only a local setting? 09:05 kados ok ... here's how I built it 09:05 paul (i think it depends on your login) 09:05 kados program: koha 09:05 kados version: 2.2 and HEAD 09:06 kados Severity: all except enhancement 09:06 paul (cvs you mean, not head) 09:06 kados right ;-) 09:06 paul OK, getting 87 same as you 09:06 kados great 09:06 kados start at the bottom? 09:07 Genji whats the url for the bugtracker? 09:07 kados Genji: bugs.koha.org 09:07 paul http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&email1=&emailtype1=substring&emailassigned_to1=1&email2=&emailtype2=substring&emailreporter2=1&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&changedin=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&version=2.2.0&version=CVS&short_desc=&short 09:07 paul desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=&cmdtype=doit&namedcmd=2.2&newqueryname=&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time 09:07 paul (a little bit too long...) 09:07 kados here's a better one: 09:07 kados http://tinyurl.com/bvnnw 09:08 kados Genji: find it? 09:08 kados so ... starting from the bottom: 09:08 kados 986: checkmarc.pl should notice null frameworkcode 09:09 kados paul: you're listed as owner ... is that correct? 09:10 paul which ordering do you use ? 09:10 Genji The named query 2.2 and HEAD: all bugs except enhancement requests seems to no longer exist. 09:10 kados Gen use http://tinyurl.com/bvnnw 09:10 kados Genji: use http://tinyurl.com/bvnnw ;-) 09:10 paul (because for me 986 is in the middle of everything, not on bottom) 09:10 Genji did 09:10 kados paul: I used order by bug id number 09:11 paul ok, i did it by severity ;-) 09:11 kados hehe ... 09:11 kados which is better? does it matter? 09:11 paul no. 09:11 paul OK for 986, I accept it. 09:11 kados great ... 09:11 kados how about a timeframe? 09:12 kados (I'll make a note on the bug so we remember) 09:13 paul i think we should just say : I solve them by severity 09:13 kados ok 09:13 paul (from bloquing to enh) 09:13 kados right ... sounds good 09:13 paul this one is normal, sounds the correct severity 09:13 kados right ... ok ready to move to 985? 09:14 paul yes, & it's a strange one ;-) 09:14 kados 985: Deleting from OPAC Virtual Shelves crashes 09:14 kados right 09:14 kados I think I remember a similar problem but I also think it is now fixed 09:14 kados can anyone else confirm the bug? 09:15 Genji don't have a readymade dataset to try with. 09:15 paul can't reproduce it 09:15 Genji i.e haven't got any virtual shelves made yet. 09:15 kados ok ... I'll take this one since I remember it 09:16 kados I'll make sure it's fixed and if not I'll let everyone know 09:16 paul ok 09:16 kados 984: Bug in installer appears to not correctly escape password 09:16 paul (joshua : i'll take care of any bugzilla changes that are assigned to me. I let you deal with all others) 09:17 kados paul: sound good :-0 09:17 kados Genji: use the tinyurl 09:17 kados Genji: http://tinyurl.com/bvnnw 09:17 kados Genji: does that work for you? 09:17 Genji the tinyurl does not. 09:17 kados strange 09:17 kados ok ... sorry then 09:18 kados 984: Bug in installer appears to not correctly escape password 09:18 kados this is assigned to MJ 09:18 kados so we'll move to next bug 09:18 kados 982: Internal Server Error 09:18 kados Genji: :-) 09:19 paul 982 is fixes in CVS. I change the bug. 09:19 kados cool 09:19 kados 981: opac-userdetails.pl crash 09:20 paul oups, no it's not fixed. 09:20 kados looks like it comes with a patch 09:20 paul but i'll take care of it anyway. 09:20 kados ok ... thanks 09:20 kados 981: opac-userdetails.pl crash 09:20 paul Genji it's bookbag 09:21 Genji 981 is a nobrainer fix. 09:21 kados right ... I'll fix it in HEAD 09:21 paul how do we reach opac-userdetails.pl ? 09:22 Genji why in HEAD and not 2.2? 09:22 paul i'll take care of 2.2 09:23 Genji opac-userdetails.pl will be in opac-cgi directory. 09:23 kados paul: in a cvs tree it's in koha/opac/opac-userdetails.pl 09:23 paul I know, i was wondering how to reach it from opac ;-) 09:23 paul (in my firefox) 09:24 hdl maybe when getting more details on member 09:24 kados ahh ;-) 09:24 hdl when logged 09:24 kados paul: can you close out bug 09:24 Genji maybe /cgi-bin/koha/opac-userdetails.pl?bibid=1? 09:24 kados 980 and 978 are owen's so we'll skip them 09:25 kados 976: duplicating a MARC field (with +) 09:25 paul fixed yesterday 09:26 kados cool ... could you close it out? 09:26 paul oups, no 09:26 paul (it's not a bug, it's an enhancement) 09:26 kados ok ... so we'll skip it then ;-) 09:26 paul what i fixed yesterday was : clicking on + duplicate the last field as well as the requested field. 09:26 kados paul: can you change the status? 09:26 paul ok, i mark it enh 09:27 paul done 09:27 kados great ... so ... moving along ... 09:27 kados 975: serials : renewal of a subscription 09:27 paul nothing to add, it's a bug, and a non trivial one to solve 09:27 kados suggestions are creating new biblios? 09:27 paul (but not a critical ones) 09:28 kados ok ... so paul is assigned? 09:28 paul oups, I should be the owner 09:28 kados (re-assigned?) 09:28 paul when a subscription is renewed, a suggestion is created. 09:28 kados 971: Incorrect use of term 'keyword' in searching template 09:28 paul but when the suggestion is ordered, a new biblio is created (that's normal) 09:28 kados right ... 09:29 paul so we should keep track that the suggestion comes from a renewal. 09:29 paul & not create the biblio 09:29 paul ok, 971 09:29 kados I think I remember this one 09:29 kados it's a technical criticism of our use of 'keyword' 09:30 kados probably justified 09:30 kados but also probably a 'enhancement' rather than a bug 09:30 paul (not really a normal bug, but a mior one) 09:30 Genji this simply a template text adjustment, or is this a code change as well? 09:30 kados Genji: it depends on how you approach it ;-) 09:30 kados if we're going to use the term 'keyword' we'd better make sure we know what it means IMO 09:31 kados otherwise technical librarians may complain that our product doesn't conform to library standards 09:32 kados right ... so I"ll move this to 'enhancements' and make a short note about the need to check for library standard for 'keyword' 09:32 paul ok for me 09:32 Genji think, that the possible technical description of 'keyword' may be facilitated by already, by 'subject'. 09:33 kados 969: Overriding waiting item results in cancelled reserve 09:33 kados this is a tricky one 09:34 kados it's the last major reserves/renew bug 09:34 kados that NPL has found 09:34 kados I wasn't able to solve it when I looked 09:34 kados (but I didn't look too hard ;-)) 09:34 paul (as most of reserve & issues code comes from katipo) 09:35 Genji give me a mo. 09:35 kados while Genji is looking ... let's move on 09:35 kados 967: In Katipo templates if acquistions set to normal, the links 09:36 kados this looks like a katipo-centric bug 09:36 kados so we'll skip it 09:36 kados 966: Attempting to add a biblio results in warning about possible 09:37 kados duplicate 09:37 paul fixed since 2.2.1 i think 09:37 paul (or 2.2.2, but fixed) 09:37 kados cool ... so paul can close it ;-) 09:38 paul reassigning & fixing it myself 09:38 kados 961: Error message, when deleting an authority 09:38 Genji assign me 969 09:38 paul it's fixed 09:38 kados Genji: ok 09:39 kados Genji: what's your email? 09:39 paul it was bug in the redirct after deletion 09:39 Genji waylon at robertson dot net dot nz 09:39 kados paul: great! 09:39 paul (however, what about pascale request 09:39 paul to create a "authority" component ? 09:40 paul can you create components ? I can't myself 09:40 paul (or i don't know how to do ;-) 09:40 kados paul: no ... I think chris has to 09:40 paul ok, you sent a mail to chris ? 09:41 kados paul: yep ... actually I'll just do a bug report ;-) 09:41 kados and make sure I catch chris later on 09:42 kados 958: Field "notes" becomes empty at receipt 09:44 paul ok, I have to dig the bug. accepting it 09:44 kados cool ... 09:44 kados 957: Bad calcul of the total in the order line after receipting 09:44 kados (maybe related?) 09:45 paul not sure. probably a bug in calculations. 09:45 paul but i'll try to kill it as well 09:45 kados great ... 09:45 hdl But the fact is that it might not be a bug : 09:46 paul of course, i'm Release Maintainer 09:46 kados :-) 09:46 hdl estimated cost : can be when you are provided a bargain 09:46 paul (note also that i sent this boring stuff to hdl ;-) ) 09:46 paul (hdl : it's a joke :-D ) 09:46 kados 953: Request for translation page 09:46 kados sounds like a good suggestion for the website ... I'll forward it to that group 09:47 paul ok, not a one for me ;-) 09:47 paul (do you know joshua bureau.paulpoulain.com/kartouche/ ?) 09:47 paul (it's for translation to french & italian) 09:48 kados no ... but looks interesting 09:48 kados I'll forward that too 09:48 paul i can set up this tool for any iso8859-1 language 09:48 kados 952: updatedatabase not checking whether table already populated 09:48 kados sweet 09:49 Genji okay. found the code to be fixed in circ2.pm 09:49 kados Genji: for 952? 09:49 paul (no, 969 probably) 09:49 kados no ;-) 09:49 kados Genji: is it difficult to fix? 09:49 Genji nope. 09:49 Genji goto line 844 in circ2.pm 09:49 kados cool ... can you commit a fix to CVS? (are you setup to do this) 09:50 kados ok I'm at 844 09:51 kados hey owen ... 09:51 paul 'morning owen 09:51 owen Hi 09:51 hdl hi 09:51 kados owen: 978 and 980 are NPL-specific right? what's the status on those? 09:52 kados (when you get settled ;-)) 09:52 Genji okay, WinCVS isn't set up for any CVS'ing ... no 09:53 owen Let me check the status of those... 09:53 kados Genji: ok ... tell me the fix and I"ll commit it 09:53 kados in the meantime ... 09:54 kados 952: updatedatabase not checking whether table already populated 09:54 paul nothing to say on this except : 09:55 paul IMPORTANT NOTE: error message "Duplicate entry 'X' for key 1" may appear. it 09:55 paul should not be a real trouble 09:55 paul 1,2003-11-06,2,0, 09:55 paul 2,2003-11-06,4,0, 09:55 paul 2,2003-11-06,,0, 09:55 paul DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Duplicate entry '2' for key 1 at 09:55 paul scripts/updater/updatedatabase line 1304. 09:55 Genji kados: need to get cvs going anyway, so ill take responsiblity for cvsing it. 09:55 kados Genji: great! 09:55 paul that is mine, can't be solved & is not really a problem 09:55 kados Genji: there's a great explaination of how to do it from the Koha project sourceforge page under 'CVS' 09:55 paul (it's when upgrading from 2.0 & in this case only) 09:56 kados paul: so it's just a warning -- not really a bug? 09:56 paul the 2nd one yes. 09:56 paul the 1st one probably 09:56 paul i mean : 09:56 paul DBD::mysql::db do failed: Duplicate entry '1-Library of 09:56 paul Congress/z3950.loc.gov:7090/voyager///USMARC 09:56 paul HTTP://LCWEB.LOC.GOV/CGI-BIN/ZGATE?ACTION=INIT&FORM_HOST_PORT=/PROD/WWW/DATA/Z3950/LOCILS.HTML,Z3950/ht...' 09:56 paul for key 2 at scripts/updater/updatedatabase line 1127. 09:56 paul I never saw this before 09:56 kados I've seen it 09:57 kados with NPL's use of updatedatabase 09:57 kados but I don't know if it's causing a problem 09:57 kados (I don't think so) 09:57 paul probably not, as it's trying to fill again seomthing already filled 09:57 kados right 09:57 kados so we'll close it then? 09:58 kados paul can you close it with a short note? 09:58 owen Bugs 978 and 980 have already been resolved, so I marked them fixed. 09:58 kados owen: cool ... thanks! 09:58 kados 951: PDF::API2 mandatory in error 10:00 hdl should maybe add a choice in installer whether they have PDF::API2 10:00 kados is this discussing an upgrade from 2.2.1 to 2.2.2? 10:01 hdl I may cope with it. 10:01 kados cool ... hdl can you re-assign it to yourself? 10:02 kados 950: Issue limit set to zero 10:02 kados owen reported this one 10:03 paul not really critical, even if i accept it 10:03 paul reassigning it to me & lowering to normal 10:03 kados cool ... thanks 10:03 kados 949: error when adding an acquisition wihtout budget 10:04 paul in fact, we should not order books without budgets... 10:04 paul (& koha don't care about having a <0 budget, so everybody can set up a budget) 10:05 paul maybe we just need to warn the user if there is no budget set ! 10:05 kados sounds like a good solution 10:05 paul ok, changing bugzilla 10:05 kados 944: We need to be able to delete a subscription. 10:06 kados fixed and then reopened? 10:07 paul mmm... I should query Nathalie once agaion 10:07 paul seems she want to delete a subscription when she should not. 10:08 kados ok ... so it's operator error ;-) 10:08 paul probably. I answer in bugzilla now. 10:08 kados 943: pb accentuations LDAP <=> KOHA 10:09 paul (on phone) 10:14 paul ok, back 10:14 Genji whats the module name and path on the server for koha cvs and koha head? 10:14 paul (it's a EMN specific problem, closing it) 10:15 kados Genji: cvs -z3 -d:ext:you@sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/koha co koha 10:15 kados Genji: (that's HEAD) 10:15 paul (accepting it, but it's a local problem anyway) 10:15 Genji and whats cvs.... 2.2.2? 10:15 kados Genji: cvs -z3 -d:ext:you@sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/koha -r rel_2_2 co koha 10:15 kados Genji: that's 2.2 10:15 paul 942 is the same. 10:15 paul (EMN local problem) 10:15 kados paul: cool ... 10:16 kados how is everyone on time 10:16 paul at least 1 hour available 10:16 paul (5PM here) 10:16 kados we've been working on bugs for 1:15 ... another 15 minutes ok? 10:17 hdl ok. 10:17 kados 938: If you delete notice without item it deletes notice linked i 10:18 paul lowering to minor & accepting it 10:18 kados ok ... 10:18 kados 936: Accounts system produces untranslatable data 10:19 kados owen reported this one 10:19 paul I agree. 10:19 paul what would be nice would be to have all of those strings 10:19 paul there are some in borrowers flags iirc 10:19 paul (adding this to #936) 10:19 kados cool 10:21 kados so will you re-assign the bug? 10:21 paul not sure it's for me ;-) 10:21 kados ok ... do you have an idea who wrote this originally? 10:21 paul (even if frenchies are the most borred by this) 10:21 kados :-) 10:21 paul (katipo) 10:21 kados ok ... so I"ll bug chris about it 10:21 paul (chris is already the owner) 10:22 kados right ... but he's the default owner of many bugs ;-) 10:22 kados 933: Cancel process results in untemplated dialogue 10:22 paul (yes, i think I should be often) 10:22 Genji how do i determine if what i got is the right branch? 10:23 Genji whats a file that screams rel_2_2? 10:23 paul (same as 936 imho) 10:23 kados Genji: you should have two diffferent directories 10:23 kados on to store HEAD koha 10:23 paul genji : winCVS should report file version 10:23 kados and one to store 2.2 koha 10:23 paul in HEAD, they are X.Y 10:23 paul in rel_2_2, they are X.Y.Z.T 10:23 kados better answer ;-) 10:24 kados paul: ok ... so you'll join 936 and 933 ? 10:24 paul I think they are at least highly related 10:24 kados 932: default theme is used for 'nohelp.tmpl' even if other templa 10:24 kados this is a problem I can also verify 10:25 paul ok, i'll take care of it. 10:25 kados paul: which 936=933? or 932? 10:25 paul mmm... i spoke of 932 10:25 kados cool 10:25 paul but it seems the problem is that the nohelp is not defined in npl 10:25 paul let me a seconde 10:25 kados ok 10:26 kados Genji: cool ... so make your additions and you should be able to commit them 10:27 paul mmm... strange... i'll investigate a little if you confirm it's still here kados 10:28 paul seems it's still here. 10:28 kados paul: I think it's still here 10:28 kados 926: Many form tags lack method and/or action attributes 10:29 paul ok, 933 is fixed 10:29 kados great! 10:30 paul (a stupid my to redefine a variable already existing) 10:30 kados paul: fixed in both HEAD and 2.2? 10:30 paul (nope, but i'll do a synch after releasing 2.2.3) 10:30 kados great 10:31 paul I agree with 926, but it's a long term goal 10:31 paul that should be in 2.4 10:31 kados can you explain it a bit more to me? 10:31 paul (and imho, the 2.4 will be called 3.0 ;-) ) 10:32 kados :-) 10:32 paul in w3c requirements, all <form> should have some parameters explicitly defined 10:32 kados owen: you reported 926 ... any input? 10:32 kados right ... 10:32 paul in 1st versions of html, they were not mandatory, now they are 10:32 paul so, we should investigate the code & improve HTML 10:33 kados ok ... so I'm going to assign that to our interface designer: owen ;-) 10:33 paul another problem : i often use <div id="bloc20"> & there should be only 1 id="bloc20") 10:33 Genji biblio.pm has version number of 1.115.2.13 in current rel_2_2? 10:33 owen Yeah... I found it confusing that forms didn't have the action specified. So the form would be <form> rather than <form action="/cgi-bin/koha/circulation.pl"> for example 10:33 paul yest Genji 10:33 Genji then i have it. 10:34 owen So the main question is, are those empty <form> tags assumed to be sumitting to themselves? 10:34 kados paul: right ... one id per page ... that is a prob ... can you add that as a note? 10:34 kados paul: or as another bug report? 10:34 paul i think it's already somewhere else iirc 10:34 paul (in another bug) 10:35 kados ok 10:35 paul #925 ? 10:35 owen The issue with ID's is really only a validation issue, rather than a functionality issue 10:35 kados paul: do you know the answer to owen's question? 10:35 kados do empty <form>s submit to themselves? 10:36 paul sorry : yes owen, <form> submits to the same url as where they come from 10:36 kados cool 10:36 kados 925: Currency search doesn't appear to do anything 10:36 paul (& method is not post iirc) 10:36 kados owen: ok will me assigning you to 926? 10:36 owen Yes 10:36 owen Yeah, default method is GET. 10:36 paul (thanks i missed the word ;-) ) 10:37 owen It doesn't seem like the scripts ever distinguish between GET and POST though 10:37 paul right owen. & that's really something nice, imho 10:38 paul (although i know some ppl may find this a security issue) 10:38 kados GET is a security issue ;-) 10:38 owen Yes. But it does make for easier coding 10:38 kados right ... and it keeps the API googleable ;-) 10:38 kados ok ... so ... 10:38 kados 925: Currency search doesn't appear to do anything 10:38 owen Yeah, even the delete links ;) 10:38 kados hehe yep ;-) 10:39 kados Koha's security is really up to the sys admin 10:40 kados owen reported 925 as well 10:40 kados not a very important bug ... but an interesting question ... is 10:40 paul about 925, not really "normal". 10:40 kados right 10:40 kados paul: do you use currency.pl? 10:40 kados paul: (is it used ever?) 10:40 paul yes of course ! 10:40 kados paul: (I mean the search box in currency.pl ;-)) 10:40 paul because you need at least 1 currency 10:41 paul no, because you don't usually have more than 2 or 3 ;-) 10:41 kados right ... I misspoke ;-) 10:41 paul (and in France, since euro, we usually have only 1) 10:41 paul (sometimes english pound or swiss franc) 10:41 paul (nice to see that the last country using "franc" is not "france" ;-) ) 10:41 kados ok ... so we should ask katipo about this feature? (since I assumed they did it?) 10:42 paul ok, remove the filter & close the bug is the best solution imho 10:42 paul no need imho, because even in NZ you don't need a filter 10:42 kados ok ... but katipo might object 10:42 owen It's hard to imagine one would have so many currencies you'd need to search for one. 10:42 kados (if they find it useful for something) 10:42 paul ok, so add a note to the bug & assign it to katipo 10:43 paul in fact, i wrote all admin screens a long time ago 10:43 kados 924 is assigned to MJ so we'll skip it 10:43 kados 923: printer config in barcode generator gives error 10:44 kados (almost done with 900s ;-)) 10:44 Genji a"lso cancel reserve on biblio related to this item" why would this happen? 10:44 paul sounds we should add a link to the correct API2 package 10:44 paul because I bet that he has not installed the correct cpan package 10:44 paul (so many packages with PDF::API2) 10:44 kados right 10:45 paul could you take care of it ? 10:45 kados yep 10:45 paul (& another question : any mail from emiliano ?) 10:45 Genji hell? 10:45 Genji o 10:45 kados paul: no...I'll bug him again today (4th time) 10:46 paul (maybe in holiday...) 10:46 kados 919: problems with subfield $0 of unimarc authorities structure 10:46 Genji "also cancel reserve on biblio related to this item" why would this happen? isn't this a bad idea? 10:47 kados Genji: is this about 969? 10:47 Genji ya. 10:47 kados just a sec 10:47 paul 919 : should be easy to solve testing it the field is ==0 or empty. 10:47 kados paul: can you do that now? 10:47 kados ok ... 10:48 kados Genji: I'm not sure what you're asking 10:48 kados 917: plugins for coded fields in unimarc authorities 10:48 kados (let's finish 900s today) 10:49 kados hey slef ... 10:49 slef hello 10:49 paul hi slef. 10:49 paul nothing to add to 917. except it's more an enh than a bug. 10:49 kados paul: ok ... I'll change it then 10:50 kados 915: opac-MARCdetail.pl incorrectly shows request status 10:50 kados Genji: where is that comment? 10:50 paul owen, is 915 fixed according to you ? 10:51 kados in the meantime 10:51 kados 914: Submit button doesnt work, in parameters changes 10:52 Genji around line 858. 10:52 Genji in circ2.pm 10:52 kados ok 10:52 paul no idea. Correct assignment for chris ;-) 10:53 kados right ... ok I'll bug him about it then 10:54 kados Genji: so you fixed that problem too? 10:54 slef 952: it is a bug. Should check whether the table is populated and use update instead of insert. 10:54 kados 911: Intranet with safari (macintosh browser) 10:55 Genji yup. im thinking.... so what if i canceled a reserve on one item in a biblio. the original borrower may have reserved an alternative copy, i could wait and give them that one instead. 10:57 kados slef: about 952: can you fix it? 10:57 kados slef: (i.e., can I assign it to you? ;-)) 10:58 kados Genji: sounds good ... but I didn't think reserves worked on an item basis 10:58 kados Genji: I thought they worked on the level of the biblio 10:59 kados paul and owen: so what would we need to do to fix 915 and who can do it? 11:00 kados 911: Intranet with safari (macintosh browser) 11:00 slef kados: ok, I'll try. updatedatabase seems undocumented, though. 11:00 kados (I'm assigning it to owen ) 11:00 kados slef: great ... thanks! (maybe you can document it along the way ;-)) 11:01 owen Don't assign 915 to me--I don't know how to fix it! 11:01 kados owen: hehe 11:01 slef "The named query 2.2 and HEAD: all bugs except enhancement requests seems to no longer exist." 11:01 paul about 915 : owen, did intranet detail.pl work fine ? 11:01 Genji committed. YAY! 11:01 kados slef: strange 11:01 slef what happened? I can't bring the bug list up 11:01 owen Yeah, I had the same problem kados 11:02 kados slef: not sure ... could be deleted by a googlebot or something ... not really sure 11:02 slef 911: how is it unusuable? 11:02 owen paul: it looks like MARCdetail.pl in the intranet has the same problem. 11:03 owen The reserves button is hidden correctly in detail.pl, but not in MARCdetail.pl 11:03 owen ..or ISBDdetail.pl 11:04 slef 911: does anyone here use safari or konqueror enough to add info to this bug report? 11:04 kados I do 11:04 kados but I haven't had trouble with NPL templates and safari 11:04 kados and I've not used default templates much 11:04 kados I can investigate it further 11:05 slef Cool. Will you assign it to you for now? 11:05 kados sure 11:05 paul ok, nothing to add. 11:05 kados 910: repeating a field (+), bring you back to the first page of m 11:05 paul maybe we can put it on a long term (with GUI rewritting) 11:06 paul (as librarian interface can be mozilla-ionly) 11:06 paul (that's not the case for oPAC, of course) 11:06 kados right ... well the ID group will need to decide that 11:06 paul 910 ; the additionnal comment is fixed. 11:06 paul (noting it to bugzilla) 11:06 kados if we want to go the same route that Evergreen has with circ 11:07 kados 900: Unimarc Authorities 11:07 kados last bug in the 900s ;-) 11:07 slef 910: is it really OK for librarian interface to be mozilla-only? 11:08 owen I think it's okay for the librarian interface to require a standards-compliant browser 11:08 paul it's the case for now. so in real life, it should be ok ;-) 11:08 owen But safari should fall under that classification 11:08 kados it might also be useful if we want to use a firefox plugin to avoid all the overhead 11:08 kados the html overhead that is 11:08 paul you mean XUL writing ? 11:08 kados Evergreen has gone that route and it's quite impressive 11:08 kados yep 11:08 paul (although knowing nothing about XUL...) 11:09 kados yes ... it would really speed up the intranet 11:09 slef 900: is this an enhancement request? 11:10 paul yes slef. 11:10 kados cool ... I'll change the status then 11:10 kados ok ... we got through the 900s 11:11 kados thanks everyone! 11:11 Genji kados: what library do you work with? 11:11 paul i'll spend some time this week & maybe next week too, to fix some bugs. 11:11 kados Genji: I'm the sys admin of NPL 11:12 kados Genji: and the president, technology for LibLime 11:12 kados let's try to have another meeting in about a week ... we'll get status reports on the 900s and begin working on the 800s 11:13 Genji kados: cool. well.. ill get my sidebar committed sometime tomorrow. you can put it into NPL so me and rach can test it on real data? 11:13 paul ok for me, any day, same hour. 11:13 kados Genji: yep ... 11:13 kados Genji: I'll put it into LibLime's demos 11:13 kados paul: cool ... thanks! 11:14 hdl ok also for me. Next time, i wil have a look at bugs before the meeting. ;) 11:14 kados hdl: :-) 11:14 Genji kados LibLime's demo data is real data? 11:16 kados Genji: yes ;-) opac.liblime.com 11:16 Genji Anyway. Im off for sleep. back at 9am. its 4am now. 11:16 kados Genji: it's a reduced set of data from NPL 11:16 Genji you'll be here then, kados? 11:16 kados Genji: cool ... have a good nap ;-) 11:16 kados yep 11:16 Genji cool. 11:16 kados cya 11:19 owen Well, that seemed very productive. 11:19 slef mmm, sorry for not arriving sooner 11:20 kados np ... if you'd like to get started on the 800s be my guest ;-) 11:20 kados indradg didn't show up ... I don't have an email address for him 11:20 kados slef: do you? 11:23 slef indradg: I should have, shouldn't I? 11:28 slef apparently not 11:30 kados slef: owen had it ... thanks for looking 11:30 slef 924: has anyone actually seen that bug? I couldn't reproduce it. 11:31 kados I've never had trouble running updatedatabase 11:31 kados and I've never use the updater ... always do it manually 11:33 slef tag worksforme, do you think? 11:33 slef (report in feb, never answered question) 11:33 kados right 11:33 kados sounds good 11:34 slef done