Time  Nick      Message
12:08 indradg   slef, around?
12:10 indradg   i guess not!
12:10 slef      indradg: off to King's Court. Will be back 1930ish, I expect.
13:32 pate      hmmm, interesting possibility for someone (USian) working on Koha (or planning to) -- http://lwn.net/Articles/137219/
14:26 slef      hi pate
14:35 pate      hiya slef
14:37 slef      shaun: I'll not be here then. Can you bang a WCAG drum for me, please?
14:38 shaun     kk
14:40 shaun     slef: got any ideas how i do this? the navigation, for some reason, eats up the padding of the header and main body in both browsers, and I can't figure out why...
14:40 shaun     using clear:both on the header and main body - all children of the navigation are floated
14:44 owen      Is it online where we can look?
14:45 shaun     i'll just put it up on my server, hang on...
14:46 shaun     i wanted to build the suspense until the meeting, but not to worry...
15:55 shaun     owen: as you saw the design, wdyt of the header (the navigation bar upwards)?
15:56 russ      morning
15:56 shaun     hi russ
15:56 owen      Good first impression.  I'll be very interested to see the final version.
15:57 shaun     heh, thanks - deliberately crippled ;-)
16:04 kados     gonna share the link?
16:05 owen      He want it to be a surprise :)
16:05 shaun     hehe
16:06 kados     shaun: so what's the nav bar supposed to look like? ;-)
16:06 shaun     it's only a stripped out version to show the problem i have been having with the navigation bar
16:06 owen      I liked the dancing hamsters though.  That was a nice touch.
16:06 kados     I like the header
16:06 kados     hamsters?
16:06 shaun     yes, a couple other people said that was quite slick, thanks
16:08 shaun     the navigation bar seems to want to make itself into the size of the largest item, not the largest item's border - happens in both browsers
16:08 shaun     i.e. the navigation bar shrinks to fit the text, not the outside of the <a> tag which surrounds it
16:08 shaun     (as i said to russ)
16:08 kados     lynx turns up a 'blog' link ;-)
16:09 kados     yea ... because a isn't a block-level tag eh?
16:10 shaun     but i have given it plenty of padding... click on one of the links and drag away (in firefox) - you will see the border as it should be
16:11 kados     you testing in FF and IE6?
16:11 kados     or IE5?
16:12 shaun     FF and winehacked IE6, but i'm not doing the minor bugfixes until I have the entire proof of concept site up and running for firefox
16:12 kados     right
16:14 owen      Looks the same to me in Firefox, IE6, and Opera 7 on Win2K
16:14 shaun     btw, if you have been browsing the css, you will know the navbar should have an #aaa background (thats highlighting, not permanent colour)
16:14 shaun     gtg now, night all
16:15 slef      shaun: a { display: block } ?
16:15 slef      hrm, he ran
16:16 kados     hehe
16:16 kados     it looks different to me in FF, Safari and IE5 on OSX ;-)
16:16 kados     but not much
16:16 kados     :-)
16:56 kados     http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Main_Page
16:56 kados     looks like a nice resources
20:10 kados     http://orweblog.oclc.org/archives/000579.html
20:10 kados     "Dorothea left a comment which wondered how one would present FRBRized results to the user. We have been working on this internally. This screenshot shows an approach."
20:12 kados     thought rach might like to see that
20:19 russ      that is nice
20:19 kados     here's something else:
20:20 kados     http://labs.oclc.org/xisbn/0800109236
20:20 russ      she is out to lunch but i'll point her towards that when she gets back
20:20 kados     takes in one isbn ... spits out more
20:20 kados     in the example above, Amazon doesn't have any data for the first one ... but it has everything (image, price, description, ratings, etc.) for the last one
20:21 kados     so in our catalog, that item currently doesn't have anything listed -- but if I could integrate that oclc service we could probably retireve data for a much larger range of items
20:22 kados     it solves the isbn problem I've been complaining about since I wrote the amazon module for Koha
20:22 kados     (or at least give me an opportunity to solve it ;-))
20:22 russ      :-)
20:23 kados     and I don't think I'm going to be able to resist doing it client-side
20:27 rosa      h  352e that, 6sh4a
20:27 rosa      sorry, numlock on lappy. I like that
20:28 rosa      that's exactly what we set out to achieve with Koha
21:29 rach      yep
21:31 rach      looks good
21:33 rach      I agree with the coment though that it's not necessarily that realistic
21:33 rach      But I have to say that the screenshot appears to be smoke and mirrors. The search is "alice" but there is no discernable way to get back to the search results, which must have resulted in many, many more titles than the one displayed.
23:09 Genji     where is Rach's mockup of some koha pages she wants done?
23:10 rach      are you thinking of this > http://katipo.co.nz/gallery/koha2-4
23:11 rach      the search pages
23:35 Genji     is it just me, or is sourceforge down?
03:25 paul      (hdl : injoignable sur gnommeeting ?)
03:29 Sylvain   hi
03:31 paul      coucou sylvain
03:33 jean      hi
03:34 paul      wednesday & "jean". is it possible that Jean Baron is with us today ;-)
03:35 paul      (+ user proxy.ei-audiovisuel.fr, that is the old name of Ineo, for sure, Jean Baron is here ;-) )
03:35 paul      so, coucou & bienvenue Jean.
03:40 jean      thx :)
03:41 jean      I'm finishing my little note about optimising apache sql and linux for koha
03:41 paul      in english ?
03:41 paul      and in xml/docbook ?
03:41 jean      I think I gonna release it soon
03:42 jean      no in french but i can translate it
03:42 paul      would be perfect in english.
03:42 jean      dont know a lot about docbook
03:42 paul      www.xmlmind.com is your friend.
03:42 jean      k thx
03:42 paul      you'll find here xxe, a nice tool to edit docbooks
03:43 paul      then stephen will be able to add this doc into www.kohadocs & provide it in docbook/html/pdf...
03:43 jean      ok nice
03:43 paul      (but the best is having the doc quickly probably. sent it ASAP, in whatever language/format you can)
03:44 paul      (we have french => english translators hidden in new zealand & canada ;-) )
03:44 jean      :)
03:44 jean      I can translate it
03:44 chris     and switzerland
03:44 paul      hi chris.
03:44 chris     neutral translators :)
03:44 chris     hi paul
03:44 paul      (/me thought you were sleeping...)
03:44 chris     nope, watching tv with the laptop
03:44 jean      I have finished apache and linux, Currently writing mysql
03:44 chris     cool jean
03:45 jean      but I will make webstress and mysql test before the release
03:47 chris     i think 2 paul .. for your latest email
03:48 chris     ill reply saying that
03:49 paul      saying what ?
03:51 chris     keep on talking french on #koha
03:51 paul      (ok, i thought you were speaking of my mail about codingguideline)
03:52 chris     ahhh nope, ill read that properly tomorrow
03:53 paul      ok, have a good night indeed.
03:53 paul      (do you know that it's a french team that won the european rugby cup ?)
03:53 chris     ohh excellent
03:53 paul      (the final was french vs french, so the winning country was not a surprise ;-) )
03:53 paul      (Toulouse vs Paris)
03:53 chris     we are all getting ready for the lions tour here
03:54 paul      Toulouse won, 18-12 (no try at all during the match + 12-12 after regular time)
03:54 chris     wow, tight game
03:55 chris     super12 final this weekend, then a couple of weeks and the lions arrive
03:59 hdl       paul: La selection des framework par défaut lorsqu'on a déjà sélectionné Un frameWork pose problème. En effet, les frameworks par défaut n'ont pas de code. Mais pour moi, je teste la valeur du code de ma liste pour afficher la grille qui va bien. Si elle n'existe pas, je vais la chercher dans la base. Mais si l'on choisit défaut, pas de valeur de grille et si l'élément a un autre framework que
04:00 hdl       Défaut, alors, il affiche avec cette grille qui n'est pas défaut :(
04:00 paul      utilise un code "default", et tu le remplaces ensuite par '' dans ton Perl, un fois que tu as récupéré ce que tu cherches
04:06 hdl       ok. Je pensais à ça mais je n'osais pas.
04:06 paul      tiens, décidémment, beaucou de monde aujourd'hui ;-)
04:06 paul      bonjour FrancoisL
04:06 FrancoisL Salut Paul !
04:06 FrancoisL C'est l'heure française :)
04:06 paul      (dans les non francais, il n'y a guère que chris...)
04:06 paul      (qui suit le chat en regardant la télé sur son portable !)
06:42 kados     hi everyone
06:42 kados     FrancoisL: it's about 7:45am for me ;-)
06:43 paul      'morning joshua/kados
06:49 FrancoisL Hi, Joshua ! I'm back from lunch :)
06:49 kados     :-)
06:49 paul      (everybody smiling today !)
06:49 kados     paul: about your poll, I vote #2
06:50 paul      thanks (i keep smiling ;-) )
06:50 kados     for the same reasons as chris
06:50 kados     hehe
06:56 Genji     11:55 pm for me. been buzzed out on a koha problem since.. oh.... 5pm... maybe 4pm. can't remember. Which is good. means im focused.
06:58 kados     Genji: what's the prob?
06:59 Genji     kados: just a task from rach, working from one of her mockups.
06:59 kados     ahh
07:26 Genji     hey, no slapping here. we arn't fifth graders, with slimy fish. Well..... you can only use a slimy fish if your paying homage to Douglas Adams. Are you?
07:36 kados     hey slef
07:36 kados     what's up?
07:36 kados     Genji: what did you think of the movie?
07:42 Genji     excellent movie.
07:50 kados     yea I liked it too
07:58 kados     slef: have something to say or just going to slap me like that ;-)
08:44 hdl       paul : pour les informations à afficher dans les scripts de relance sur les livres, c'est simplement le titre des livres ou on  ajoute d'autres informations : titre auteur numéro...
08:44 paul      met titre, auteur, code barre
08:45 hdl       Autre information : j'ai fait une svg de l'ob sur le netserver. Je demande sa déconnexion...
08:45 paul      oki, j'ai fait la même chose récemment, parce que l'abonnement arrive à expiration.
08:46 paul      (mais répète la demande)
08:54 hdl       Une précision : dans items, il y a déjà biblionumber. c'est une informations valide ? Je peux shunter la table biblioitems ou pas ?
08:55 hdl       paul
08:55 paul      oui
08:55 paul      (pardon, n'hésite pas à marquer "paul", pour que j'aie une fenetre
08:55 paul      la réponse est oui
10:01 slef      kados: I forgot why.
10:01 slef      kados: oh yeah, wikibooks aren't nice. :)
10:16 slef      owen: two wrongs make a right, you know
10:43 paul      hdl : i've understood why you had problem with kados z3950 server. It's quite simple & stupid...
10:43 paul      if you seach for a book that is already in the database, it's discarded.
10:43 paul      so you get empty result.
10:44 paul      if you launch the server on a koha-DB A and run koha with a DB B, it works fine ;-)
10:56 hdl       Congratulations !!
11:30 shaun     slef: that's the one *slaps himself*
11:30 shaun     thanks
11:31 owen      Lotsa slapping going on today.
11:31 shaun     OK, i can get on with this thing now...
11:33 shaun     hang on, it didn't solve the background problem... *sits down again*
11:38 shaun     got it.