Time Nick Message 12:21 kados has anyone here seen the demo of PINES Evergreen circ? 12:21 kados it's really nice 12:21 kados http://open-ils.org/blog/?p=27#more-27 12:21 kados there's a firefox extension to install 12:23 kados this is really impressive 12:24 kados not everything is working yet but it's really cool 12:41 kados so owen ... we still have two reserve errors right? 12:41 kados http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=969 12:41 kados "Overriding waiting item results in cancelled reserve" 12:41 kados and the second 12:42 kados http://bugs.koha.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=844 12:42 kados "renewstatus subroutine should check for reserves" 12:42 kados owen: any more reserve-renew-related bugs asside from those? 12:44 kados owen: do you mind if I update 101? 12:47 owen That sound right--just the two reserve errors 12:49 kados and our solution for 844 was to just include the 'reserved' variable so you could 'block' the checkbox on the details screen right? 12:53 kados it's this variable in moremember.tmpl: 12:53 kados <!-- TMPL_IF name="norenew" --> 12:53 kados right? 12:53 owen Right--the renewstatus should check for both too many renewals and a reserve. 12:53 owen It'd be nice if it returned two variables--one regarding renewals, and one regarding reserves. 12:53 owen I'm not sure how it might work, though. 13:34 owen Hi Ben 13:34 Ben hi. 13:34 Ben apologies for my early leave yesterday: it was 11pm and I had to go to bed 13:36 owen I think it was a bad time for almost everyone! 13:36 owen That's what compromise is all about :) 13:36 Ben yes 13:37 Ben still, I got in an hour of it 14:13 kados Note that I'm assuming that all libraries don't want items reserved for others 14:30 indradg kados, just had a look at open-ils.org... these guys' are really thinking of kicking it up a notch.. jabber... XUL ... hmmm 14:30 kados yep :-) ... did you see my post above? 14:31 kados it's really a nice interface 14:31 indradg well...it was ur post which took me there :) 14:36 kados chris around? 14:42 shaun hi everyone - is kados around? 14:42 slef hi doctor nick! 14:46 kados shaun: my list email? 14:46 kados you mean a re-cap? 14:46 kados that recap is probably rach's job 14:46 shaun anything that you would say about being 2.4 RM, and the job allocations. 14:47 kados right ... I'll probably do a general email 14:47 shaun excellent 14:47 kados then start threads for the individual roles and jobs to do 14:47 kados etc. 14:47 kados hopefully I'll get the general email out today (truth be told, I was kinda waiting for rach to do an official sounding email to the list announcing me, etc.) 14:48 kados (for the folks that were'nt at the meeting) 14:48 kados but I guess I don't need to wait for that 14:49 shaun if you send that out, I will call a meeting on # on the topic of visual interface - I would call it the website meeting, but I feel that the templates need to be brought into it as well, to some extent 14:50 kados how about I call the meeting ... and it'll be the 'interface design' meeting 14:50 kados the website doesn't really fit into that scope does it? 14:50 shaun an interface with customers 14:50 kados ahh 14:50 shaun ;-) 14:51 shaun anything that the end-user sees, basically? 14:51 kados so we're talking about redesigning the entire color scheme/ logos, etc of Koha 14:51 kados all things Koha 14:51 kados I'm all for that 14:51 kados but 14:51 shaun the logos are good- rach has done a good job with the latest one she sent out to me at least. 14:52 kados I still think the narrower topic of interface design as related to the actual Koha interfaces is a priority 14:52 kados yea the latest logos are nice 14:52 shaun the visual identity needs to be brought back up to a slick level. 14:52 shaun go on then - without a doubt, such a meeting will be just as popular as the town hall one... 14:52 kados in my experience, designing an overall presense is a tough thing to do wihen we've got so many folks with a vested interest 14:53 kados ok ... I'll bring up both issues and we'll hash it out ;-) 14:53 shaun yeh... mind if I chair? 14:58 shaun brb 15:00 kados shaun: I'd rather chair for now 15:24 shaun back again - kados: OK 15:36 kados sure 15:37 kados shaun: sorry ... I've been squashing bugs today for NPL 15:37 shaun np 15:37 kados I'll probably not get to the message for a few hours 15:38 kados plus I'd like to touch base with rach before I do send it 15:38 kados thanks for your patience ;-) 15:38 shaun i'll be gone by then... 9:00 GMT, thursday next week sound OK? 15:39 kados sounds ok with me ... course, any time is always ok with me 15:39 kados since I work on Koha now for NPL and LibLime it's pretty much Koha all the time ;-) 15:39 kados two full time jobs ... yay! 15:39 kados ;-) 15:41 kados how many times can paul quit without joining again ? ;-) 16:02 indradg kados, around? 16:06 shaun I'm off now, bye. kados - send mail ;) 16:16 kados indradg: yep 16:16 kados chris: if you're around ... do you happen to remember what the values for 'itemlost' mean? 16:24 kados indradg: what's up? 16:36 indradg kados, I was thinking how abt a pygtk interface for the circ module? 16:37 kados right ... have you seen chris's work? 16:37 kados http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz 16:37 indradg yep... looked thru the screenshots 16:38 kados I'd like to see an XMLHttp front end 16:38 kados like Evergreen's 16:38 indradg hmmm...interesting :) 16:38 Genji morning. 16:38 kados morning Genji 16:38 indradg morning Genji 16:39 kados so Chris has done a TK and a Curses implementation 16:39 kados http://www.bigballofwax.co.nz/cgi-bin/blosxom/koha 16:41 indradg cool 16:47 indradg kados, excuse my ignorance... the only time I fiddled with curses was back in the mid 90s... what I knew was that it worked on the terminal 16:47 kados it does ;-) 16:48 kados it's a widget toolbox 16:48 indradg rite... but that might lead to issues with L10N issues with asian scripts 16:49 kados yea 16:49 kados I'd like to see XMLHttp 16:49 kados we can likely steal the whole thing from Evergreen 16:49 indradg most asian scripts.... particular all the indian langs don't behave on terminals due to rendering and character clusters issues 16:50 kados (their mozilla plugin is based on XMLHttp) 16:50 indradg yeah... /me was reading up XUL tutorials 17:06 si joshua: 'tis saturday here 17:06 si rach is out stewarding at a dog show 17:55 kados ahh ... right ... forgot about the day diffs 17:55 kados too bad 18:08 si that's not to say that either of them won't be on some time 18:08 si but I wouldn't rely on it :-) 21:26 kados any Spanish or French Kohaites present? 21:26 kados chris around? 21:33 chris whats up? 21:36 Genji hiya chris! 21:37 chris heya 21:55 kados hi guys 21:55 kados chris: two questions 21:56 kados 1. did you ever commit your mozilla extension and README? 21:56 chris nope, as i havent been able to generalise it yet 21:57 kados 2. do you remember what the itemlost status statuses are? 21:57 kados 0 is 'not lost' ... I'm assuming 1 = lost 21:57 kados but what about 2-~? 21:58 chris yep 21:58 chris 1 = marked lost by the librarian 21:58 chris 2= longtime overdue 21:58 chris considered lost by koha 21:58 chris if you set up your rules and use fines2.pl 21:59 chris koha will mark items 2 after a set period and level the replacement charge on the borrowers account 21:59 kados cool ... thanks 22:02 kados and should itemlost be 0 by default, empty, or null? 22:03 kados in 2.2 lost items are displayed alongside items present in the catalog ... on the initial search results sscreen 22:03 kados I'm trying to alter the sql query that pulls out item info 22:03 chris null or 0 22:03 kados elect items.* from items where biblionumber=? and itemlost< 22:04 chris 0 if its been 1 or 2 previously 22:04 kados ok ... so itemlost<1 should work then eh? 22:04 kados is null < 1? 22:04 chris dont think so 22:04 kados or is it undefined 22:04 chris null is undefined 22:04 kados shoot 22:04 kados so maybe itemlost !=1 and itemlost !=2 ? 22:05 chris and (itemlost = 0 or itemlost is NULL) 22:05 kados ok ... I'll give that a shot 22:06 kados thanks 22:06 chris np 22:11 chris :) 09:53 kados :-) 09:53 kados ISP nab it? 09:59 kados slef: do you know of a free 'meetup.com' resource? 09:59 kados slef: I'd like to setup some kind of voting mechanism for meeting times 09:59 kados slef: how does debian do it? 10:00 kados (speaking of debian, would it be worth it to try to get a Koha package together for inclusing in sarge?)