Time Nick Message 14:11 owen I have trouble enough understanding how the *concept* of authorities works, let alone how Koha uses them :( 15:01 owen Hi shaun 15:03 shaun hi 15:08 shaun I haven't had a chance to do any work on koha today - but my new hd is in the server now, with raid enabled, and i have 160 gigs more storage space on this box (now i don't have to randomly delete stuff to be able to work on anything locally) *reading through logs* I'm a performance freak, maybe I should try to get a high-performance mod_perl and mysql combination... *upgrades to mysql 4* :p 15:09 owen Well, note that Joshua said he didn't see any performance improvement under mod_perl. But that's all I know about it. 15:11 shaun hmm, theoretically mod_perl would only make a minor improvement, as the heavy stuff is all done by the perl - mysql bit... *investigates fedora/rhel/mysql 4* 15:12 Ben hi 15:12 owen Hi Ben 15:13 shaun hi ben 15:18 Ben hmm, seems eventless this evening.. 15:19 Ben any luck on the argentinians? 15:19 owen Give it more time. Paul said yesterday the relevant folks were going to be at a conference this week and next week. Paul's going to re-contact them after that. 15:20 Ben goodo 15:21 shaun *moves server back out to conservatory* 15:24 Ben so /me is doing it 15:26 shaun o...i am working on the typed document (or i was...) 15:26 Ben okie doke 15:26 Ben is that the speech then? 15:27 Ben I asked you a while ago to come up with some formatting 15:28 Ben which will be usable on the school pcs.. 15:28 shaun to other devs: i am (we are?) writing a document on the advantages of koha over other ILS that could be used in schools, particularly ALICE, OLIVER, Liberty3 and cards ;) - we will release it under GFDL, if anyone else wants to use it... 15:28 Ben how does Palatino Linotype grab you for the title? 15:29 Ben it looks nice at 48pt 15:29 Ben is lucida sans on the school computers? 15:29 Ben shaun? 15:31 shaun umm, this is a printed document - as long as i have it installed on my system, it's fine 15:32 Ben I know. 15:33 Ben however, in case you have not been reading what I have written, I am writing a presentation to be delivered. Is lucida sans on the school computers? 15:33 shaun she asked specifically for a written document. 15:34 Ben I know that 15:34 Ben is lucida sans on the school computers? 15:34 shaun i presume so... 15:34 Ben good 15:34 Ben finally.. 15:35 Ben what is the verb form of administrator? administer or administrate? 15:35 shaun why are you producing a presentation when we need a proposal as a written document? 15:35 Ben because I am. 15:35 Ben what is the verb form of administrator? administer or administrate? 15:36 owen Administrationify 15:36 shaun lol 15:36 Ben I am not going to try to explain why to you or what I propose to do, since you have made up your mind and are not going to change it 15:37 shaun http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?administrate 15:37 shaun in the same context, http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?root 15:38 Ben lol 15:39 shaun see http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?hacker and http://haileris.com/cgi-bin/dict?cracker :D 15:40 kados hi everyone 15:41 shaun hi kados 15:41 kados shaun: you'll want at least mysql 4.0 because it's got the query cache 15:41 kados this helps out Koha quite a bit 15:41 owen hi kados 15:41 kados you'll also want to tweak my.cnf based on your hardware and the size of your database 15:43 kados for example 15:43 kados here are some settings from NPLS: 15:43 kados set-variable = key_buffer=1024M 15:43 kados set-variable = max_allowed_packet=16M 15:43 kados set-variable = table_cache=512 15:43 kados set-variable = sort_buffer_size=2M 15:43 kados set-variable = record_buffer=2M 15:43 kados set-variable = thread_cache=8 15:43 kados set-variable = query_cache_size=128M 15:43 kados # Try number of CPU's*2 for thread_concurrency 15:43 kados set-variable = thread_concurrency=2 15:43 kados set-variable = myisam_sort_buffer_size=64M 15:43 kados set-variable = tmp_table_size=128M 15:44 kados there should be a my-huge.cnf somewhere in your install that should give you some good docs on the variables and what they mean ... also see the mysql manual 15:44 kados we have 2 gigs of ram so if you have less that that you could really screw things up by using the above variables btw ;-) 15:45 kados and some of the variables switch names from version to version so be careful there too 15:45 shaun how many people who use koha on servers use some form of red hat? how about non-linux *nix variants? and how many are still on mysql <4? (to your knowledge, not asking for a survey ;) ) 15:46 Ben gtg, bye 15:46 kados I think we're the only production system on a red hat variant 15:46 kados paul uses mandrake 15:46 kados katipo uses debian 15:46 kados (we use debian too ;-)) 15:46 shaun which rh variant is it? 15:46 kados RC3 15:46 kados that's FC3 ;-) 15:47 kados good stuff may come of it some day ;-) 15:47 kados it's still just a baby 15:47 kados but it's kina cute ;-) 15:47 shaun o (im running it here - did you get mysql 4 working from rpms or source of some sort?) 15:47 kados I use the official rpms on the mysql site 15:48 kados you'll need the backwards compat rpms too 15:48 kados for some of the libraries that Koha depends on 15:48 kados things like dbi and dbd iirc 16:02 kados two good lines 16:03 shaun ??? 16:03 kados sorry ... 16:03 kados wrong # 16:15 kados log "/home/jmf/koha.log" 16:15 kados oops 16:15 kados :-) 16:19 owen kados has slippery fingers ;) 16:21 shaun gtg, bye 17:36 tim Just looking back on things I missed. Wouldn't Mandrake be a Red Hat variant? 22:21 indradg hi all 22:22 indradg morning 22:24 rach morning 22:25 indradg rach, RHEL 4 was released in my city (Calcutta) yesterday 22:27 indradg I had quite a good discussion with both Redhat and Intel guys looking after the education tech stack in India abt the possibility of having Koha + a CMS system being made available through their distribution n/w in India 22:28 indradg its all very early, but the signs are quite positive :) 22:29 rach excellent 22:29 rach rebecca? 22:29 rach bex? 22:29 indradg sorry? 22:29 rach wrong channel 22:30 indradg heh 22:30 indradg no probs