Time Nick Message 22:22 rach hey, oh yes I need to draw some pictures to get it straight in my head 22:09 michael mkl_read 21:59 mkl_read drawning ? 21:59 mkl_read rach, what kind of pictures u need ?? 21:13 michael i stay and will concentrate on this shadoks' idea by reading a book :-) 21:11 michael good night kados ;-) 21:11 michael you say "dusty" ??? 21:11 michael poussière = dust 21:10 michael oki ;-) 21:10 michael YES because of the "poussiérieuse" notion of COLLECTION and PLACES we have when you learn this work... 21:10 kados they like to control the books ;-) 21:10 kados but I doubt libraries would go for it ;-) 21:09 kados yea ... that's neat 21:09 michael you follow ? 21:09 michael in a way, PEOPLE are ACTIVE in the CIRCULATION of the BOOKS they borrowed... 21:08 michael users of NAUSICAA used to finds a book in particular in they local library dont find it anymore IF and ONLY IF the user themselves MAKE THE BOOKS MOVE 21:08 kados you should ask him when he is back 21:08 kados I think paul may have a solution for that 21:08 kados interesting 21:07 michael this books are no localised in TOTORO branches and it changes it on the OPAC 21:07 michael when the NAUSICAA books are "bipped" or scanner in TOTORO branch, the localisation changes "en temps réel" in real time 21:07 kados so is this a consortia you're talking about? 21:06 michael so the books of NAUSICAA branches are borrowed in NAUSICAA but the borrower like also to go in TOTORO 21:06 michael or more, that's not the key point... 21:05 michael let's name take 2 : TOTORO and NAUSICAA 21:04 michael so : imagine you have several branches 21:04 kados :-) 21:04 kados well ... ? 21:04 michael maybe i'll make a flop because its not "new at all" but if i don't share this idea soon i guess i will forget it one day... 21:02 miklZzzzz anyone here wants to here ? it's about moving books and people the same way with Koha ??? anyone ?? 21:01 miklZzzzz in informagik it's possible to do i suppose but what librarians will think of it and users too, i don't know : EXPERIMENTAL as i say, do you want to here it ??? or read i mean ??? 21:00 miklZzzzz i got an idea though i'm sleepy mind kados but it's EXPERIMENTAL 18:16 rach to see if she can convince anyone else it's a good plan :-) 18:08 chris true 18:07 kados and you can do nifty ranking too (if a word occurs in more than one tagsubfield it has a higher ranking) 18:07 kados cause all the words are already in there ;-) 18:07 kados and the good news is that it levels out when your database grows 18:06 kados rach: if you think this sounds slow you should see what we're doing now ;-) 18:05 chris yep 18:05 kados quite a difference 18:05 kados 543767 18:05 kados select count(distinct word, tagsubfield) from marc_word: 18:04 kados 4630390 18:04 kados select count(*) from marc_word: 18:04 kados as far as speed goes here's an initial table estimate: 18:04 kados could be 18:03 chris yeah ... which would mean that potentially during the day you will be returning wrong results 18:03 kados to rebuild the marc_words and marc_words_display tables 18:02 kados right ... if I were to test this theoretically I would probably set it up as a script to run nightly 17:58 chris and making sure that all updates modify all the tables 17:57 chris itll depend on how fast you can get those queries going 17:56 rach but IANAP :-) 17:55 chris hmmm 17:53 kados what do you think? 17:53 kados and one to get everything else 17:53 kados one to get the id for the words 17:52 kados so there are two queries ... 17:52 kados AND the complete display for the OPAC/Intranet 17:52 kados then another table with the itemnumbers and ids 17:52 kados we have instead an identifier for each word 17:51 kados so here's the idea 17:51 kados but that's problematic for updating eh? 17:51 kados and a there is a 'itemnumbers' column for all the items that have that word (in csv) 17:50 kados where every marc word only appears once per tagsubfield 17:50 kados paul's brilliant idea was to have marc_words 17:50 kados every marc word every time it appears 17:49 kados so currently we've got a marc_word table 17:49 kados chris: I've a search idea ... like some feedback 17:10 kados thanks! 16:59 rach hi, lib lime is looking good 16:53 kados hi rach 16:34 rach hello 16:04 michael bye ;-) 16:04 michael sorry i dream awake on IRC... guess go really sleep 16:04 michael so there is still hope that maybe somedays Marilyne will go again in Canada... and maybe with a kind of new family this time... 16:04 michael hum i think i sleep well... Ohio's not so far from Canada... when you see this map on the Internet http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monticue/United_States_Map.jpg 15:58 michael so do you 15:57 michael thanx 15:57 kados michael: take care ;-) 15:57 michael oki... so am i... i'll go to zzzleeeppsoon... 15:57 michael see u next time... 15:57 michael oh :-/ bye owen... 15:56 michael Marilyne (who's not in my appartment right now) had tripped to Quebec... 15:56 michael ... hum... is it true that some libraries in Canada or Québec (french Canada) are, as far as i heard, are interested in Koha ??? 15:55 owen Yes, so he probably won't be here in #koha tonight ;) 15:54 michael OH... i guess i will dreamt of PaulPoul this night :-| in the plane to go back home... 15:54 michael i rather think i 'm "in love with" Marilyne but also "found of" PaulPoul... she tells me i'im crazy... 15:54 owen They'll be on the plane in another couple of hours 15:53 owen They're probably at the airport in Columbus, OH right now 15:53 michael she said i'll be decieved when i meet him again in May... but i guess she's wrong and a little jalous too ;-) 15:53 michael or "tipaul" if you prefer this nickname... my girlfriend Marilyne is already "sick" about "PaulPoul" because i sometimes speak too much of him and his great msg on the french list 15:51 michael you know : i'm curious and very big fan of "PaulPoul" 15:50 michael did Paul and his companions still "travel" around Nelsonville ? or is he already on the way home ??? 15:50 michael cool ;-) 15:48 owen We had a very enjoyable and informative meeting with Paul and his travelling companions 15:48 michael thanx 15:48 michael just back home for me... i send a msg to russell @ kapito not long ago... is he came here sometimes ? 15:47 michael anyone have news from Nelsonville these last few days ?... hum... must be exciting to leave his country like Paul does :-@ 15:46 michael hi everyone 15:46 mike_here <i>michael</i> will have to wait too... until May 9 to meet Paul again ;-) 15:30 owen I'm not sure why admin-home.pl has the code it does 15:29 owen (that certainly makes more sense) 15:29 kados that's a relief ;-) 15:29 owen Hmm... I must be wrong about the flags. It looks like you don't have to specify the flags in each script. 15:28 kados ;-) np 15:25 indradg kados, u rock! thanks a ton! :) 15:24 indradg sorry for the cluebie q :P 15:24 indradg aah... i see... reading code always helps :P 15:21 indradg holdings tag...that would the item specific stuff like barcodes et al ? 15:20 kados other than that it should work ... 15:20 kados if your library doesn't use that you'll need to replace '942k' with whatever your library uses 15:20 indradg ok 15:20 kados I think the script uses 942k 15:20 kados ok ... and double check the holdings tag for your library ... 15:19 indradg right 15:19 kados you have marc21 right? 15:19 kados in misc 15:19 kados yea build_marc_word.pl ;-) 15:18 kados lemme look 15:18 kados build_marcword or something 15:18 indradg and that would be? 15:18 kados and it optimizes it along the way ;-) 15:18 kados yep you could do that ... there's actually a script written by me in misc that builds it for you thou ;-) 15:17 indradg chris suggested that I try dropping the marc_* tables and re-run koha2marc.pl to rebuild the marc_* tables 15:17 kados backup even? 15:17 kados hmmm, do you have a bakup? 15:16 indradg kados, remember I spoke to u abt my corrupted marc_words table... well i did a REPAIR table, the table is back but some of the data is missing 15:15 kados I wonder if it defaults to certain values if you don't specify 15:15 kados owen: I'm not sure about that 15:05 owen (well, almost every flag) 15:04 owen If so, it would mean you'd have to specify *every* flag in every script, since the site-wide navigation needs to be customized based on permissions 15:04 owen Is that correct? 15:03 owen It's not that you have to have all those flags set to access the page, it seems like that's listing what flags are /checked/ on the page. 15:02 owen flagsrequired => {parameters => 1, management => 1, tools => 1}, 15:02 owen authnotrequired => 0, 15:02 owen The admin-home page, for instance, has this: 15:02 owen The new permissions sytem seems to work great, but I'm confused about how the flags settings work in the scripts 14:54 owen kados: are you still around? 13:24 kados indradg: I"m here now ... what's up? 13:17 owen I haven't seen kados this afternoon. 12:37 indradg kados, around?