Time Nick Message 12:06 owen paul around? 12:06 paul yes 12:06 owen Hi paul. 12:06 paul writting release notes for 2.2.2 in french 12:06 paul good morning own 12:06 owen we've run into a pretty nasty bug in circulation 12:07 owen It happens when someone checks out an item which is on reserve for another patron. 12:07 paul (my flight ticket for Columbus is in my hand... arriving on Saturday, april, 9 at 7:11PM) 12:07 owen If you override the reserve, but don't cancel it, the item is made waiting for that other patron at the same time that it's being issued 12:08 paul if I understand, it means : 12:08 paul * item is reserved by X 12:08 paul * Y tries to issue it 12:09 paul * the librarian confirm & don't cancel the reserve 12:09 paul * the item is marked "waiting" for X 12:09 owen That's correct 12:10 paul and X comes to the library to get the item, so, you'll have some problems... 12:10 paul you should have some logs 12:11 paul something like FillReserve, Waiting, Reserved 12:11 owen Yes, I've noticed that 12:11 paul then CancelReserve or transferbook 12:11 paul and you have what exactly ? 12:32 owen Reserved at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 846. 12:32 owen transferbook at /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules//C4/Circulation/Circ2.pm line 863. 17:06 rach hello 18:31 rach hi rosalie 18:32 rosa hi rach, anyone else watching 18:41 rach dunno - owen and paul were around earlier, but I haven't got time stamping turned on so I can't see how much earlier 18:43 rach hi owen 18:43 rach no one has helped me with my authority file confusion :-( 18:43 owen Authority file confusion? 18:44 rach I can't work out how to actually start/add an authority 18:44 rosa that's two of us 18:44 rach I think I need to do something with the marc mapping 18:44 rach but it's doing my head in 18:44 owen Do you mean an authorized value? 18:44 rach yes 18:45 rach so like "English" for language 18:45 rach it *looks* like you can do it 18:45 rach my question was wether it only worked if you were using unimarc 18:45 rach which is what the docs seem to say 18:46 owen No, I've used them with MARC21 18:46 rach yeah it didn't really seem likely 18:46 owen How far have you gotten? Have you set up a list of values in 'Authorised values admin'? 18:47 owen Start by going to Parameters -> Authorised values 18:48 rach what is a category? 18:49 owen A category is a group of authorized values, so you might create a 'lang' category for your language values 18:49 rach ok 18:49 rach and what is "lib" 18:50 owen I don't see that. Is that on the 'add new category' page? 18:50 rach yes 18:51 owen My installation of 2.2 has Category, Authorised Value, and Text as the options. 18:51 rach ok what is text? 18:51 rach is that like the long version of the value? 18:51 owen Yes 18:51 rach so En = English 18:52 rach :-) 18:52 rach Ok so I've got a category = language, auth value = english, lib =English 18:53 rach how do I add more to the same category? 18:54 owen Is there an 'add authorised value' button? 18:54 rach nope 18:54 rach 2 add category buttons 18:55 rach so that might be a template bug 18:55 rach hmm delete doesn't work either 18:55 owen Hmm... Are you working with an up-to-date copy of 2.2? 18:56 rach ah maybe not - 2.2.0RC3 18:57 owen I'm afraid we'll have to pick this up again tomorrow. I have to leave. 18:58 rach ok ta 18:59 rach ah that's funny, we're doing hte same thing rosalie 18:59 rosa I might have to send someone off to do some MARC training 19:00 chris im fairly sure the geneva convention prevents that rosa 19:00 rach yeah I reckon :-) 19:00 chris cruel and inhumane or something 19:00 rach well unless they have been very bad :-) 19:00 rosa :-))) 19:02 rach did you just delete all those ones rosalie? 19:02 rach ah no I see 19:02 rosa which ones? 19:03 rosa I've got country and language 19:03 rosa as categories 19:03 rach and thought the rest had gone, but it's not the case 19:04 rosa keyword wouldn't be an authorised value 19:05 rosa authorised value is the approved version of something - like the correct spelling and dates for a name 19:05 rach IANAL :-) 19:05 rosa IANAL? 19:05 rach I am not a librarian 19:06 rach usually i am not a lawyer 19:06 rosa wise 19:06 rach um we were thinking of having keywords/subjects as an authority, for our document management bit 19:06 rosa maybe I need to do the MARC thing myself. i must have been very bad in a pst life 19:06 rach so we do that for LGNZ basically 19:07 rosa There you go. I knew there was a quick and dirty way to do authority control 19:07 rosa that didn't invole a thousand headings and who knows how many thousand subheadings 19:08 rach but you can do that if you want rosa :-) 19:08 rosa the MARC training? 19:08 rach no the hierachy of categories 19:08 rach http://koha.hlt.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/admin/authtypes.pl 19:09 rach maybe we need to go to france rosa, and get training from paul :-) 19:10 chris you only need to go to ohio, in april and meet paul and the NPL there :-) 19:12 kados chris: back? 19:12 chris yep back in cold rainy wellington 19:12 kados howdy! long time no read ;-) how was SF? 19:13 chris i was in fullerton ... so im not sure :-) (down by LA) fullerton was good 19:13 kados hehe 19:13 rach :-) 19:13 rach hmm rosa just reading the marc cataloguing sales pitch "For a non-cataloguer who is adventurous enough to attend this 19:13 rach workshop, you will leave with a better understanding of how cataloguing 19:13 rach rules and MARC records work together to allow patrons to find the materials 19:13 rach that we collect in our libraries." 19:14 chris on a serious note, i wouldnt mind going 19:15 chris i wonder how much it costs 19:15 kados is it in NZ? 19:15 rach $540 including GST 19:15 rach yep it's in hamilton 19:15 chris or christchurch 19:15 rach the most boring city in NZ :-) 19:15 kados :-) 19:15 chris id go to christchurch, rather than hamiltron 19:16 rach true 19:16 rach see the famdamily 19:16 chris ahh 540 for both, or 180 for just MARC21 19:16 chris i guess we'd need to join lianza too 19:17 rach we might get to wangle that 19:17 chris well we are working on their membership database 19:17 chris wouldnt be hard :-) 19:17 rach we could add ourselves in :-) 19:17 chris woo 19:18 chris it cost me 1499$nz return to LAX via sydney 19:18 rach it costs between $900 and $2000 NZ depending on what deals you can get 19:19 rach they were doing $999 to san fran last year 19:19 chris yep, i got that 19:19 chris if you can avoid LAX, id heartily recommend it 19:19 rach but it costs more to go at short notice usually 19:19 rach still sucks then chris? 19:19 kados yea ... 19:19 chris yeah, all big airports suck 19:20 rach later 19:20 kados great to read you guys ... talk later ;-) 19:20 chris cya later 19:22 rosa sorry got called away 19:23 rach almost like you're running a library rosa :-) 19:23 rosa the library is an institutional member. Chris could go as an HLT person. loose affiliation not described 19:23 chris ohh tricky 19:24 chris oh did I tell you rach, i fixed bernadettes copyright date problem, and 3 or for other glitches 19:24 rosa honorary temporary staff or summat 19:24 chris (christchurch reminded me) 19:26 rach yay thanks for that chris 21:19 rosa we're back inbusiness 23:29 indradg chris, hi 23:29 chris heya indradg 23:29 indradg around? 23:29 chris yep 23:30 indradg read the earlier transcript.... u said that u fixed the (c) problem that was being discussed on the list 23:31 chris ahh this problem was just a template bug 23:31 indradg i c 23:31 chris the script was expecting an input with the name "copyrightdate" 23:31 chris the html was <input type="text" name="copyright"> 23:31 indradg so its not a shortcoming of the way Koha is managing the Marc tag for copyright 23:32 chris nope, was purely that it was never actually being passed through to any of the subroutines 23:32 indradg got it 23:36 chris my first instinct is to always check the html::template files 23:37 chris its so easy to break things by changing input names, or accidentally deleting the wrong line etc 23:37 indradg yeah, so I learnt lately... after I managed to get over my perl aversion ;) 23:37 chris :) 23:39 indradg I have added a couple of fields to borrowers table for one of my installations.... 1) member's photo (standard passport sized mugshot) and 2) member's/authorised person (incase of inst member) signature 23:40 chris ahh cool 23:41 indradg I'm thinking of tweaking the barcode generator module to print out a bar-coded, photo_id library membership card 23:41 chris that'd be pretty cool 03:47 paul is rach around ? 03:58 rach here 03:59 rach http://pure-guava.org.nz/albums/Baby-Tommy/IMG_3813_sm.sized.jpg 04:00 rach my nephew - a regular linux baby :-) 04:00 rach http://pure-guava.org.nz/gallery/Baby-Tommy/IMG_3817_sm 04:00 rach that ones nice 04:14 paul rach, about your chat with rosa & chris 04:14 paul my opinion is that the best solution would be to translate my kohadocs.org 04:14 paul migrer_ses_donnees.xml 04:14 paul (that is in french only, sorry not to be native english ;-) ) 05:05 si paul, are you still around? 05:07 paul yep (11AM in France 05:07 paul ) 05:07 paul si 05:08 si rachel was asking if you were about 05:08 si she wants to chat 05:08 si but can't tear herself away from the tv :-) 05:08 paul she can come, i'm here 05:09 paul (working on z3950daemon) 05:18 rach hello 05:19 rach you're talking about our chat about authority files etc? 05:20 rach I could probably get that translated by Regula maybe 05:22 rach http://www.kohadocs.org/migrer_ses_donnees.xml 05:22 rach that one? 05:52 hdl hello 05:59 paul rach, you're right. 05:59 paul I was thinking to regula when writing this suggestion ;-) 05:59 paul salut hdl 08:32 indradg_ hi anyone around? paul? 08:32 indradg_ chris? kados? 10:10 sylvain hi all 10:32 hdl hi 11:21 paul sylvain ? 11:21 paul bonjour 11:22 paul tu bosses sur quoi actuellement ? 11:22 paul (pour le point de situation à l'ENSMP) 11:24 sylvain cette semaine j'ai pas trop fait de choses pour l'ENSMP 11:25 sylvain mon prochain truc ce sera les commandes depuis le réservoir 11:25 sylvain et la semaine dernière j'ai fait la séparation des paramètres mais tu dois déjà l'avoir noté j'imagine 11:28 indradg paul, hi 11:28 paul vivi. 11:28 indradg ran into a problem while upgrading from Koha 2.0.0 to 2.2.0 11:28 paul ok, je note que tu bosses sur les commandes depuis le réservoir. Ca va pas être simple simple... 11:28 paul indradg, hello. 11:29 indradg paul, marc search frm Intranet as well as opac isnt working 11:29 paul (on en parle si tu veux, mais demain, parce que vendredi je suis pas dispo, et lundi à la bib buffon pour une démo) 11:29 indradg only ISBN search seems to be working 11:29 sylvain demain je suis pas dispo ;) 11:29 sylvain retour à l'école ... 11:29 sylvain ça sera la semaine prochaine, j'espère que d'ici la j'aurai avancé unpeu 11:29 paul indradg, do you change opac tempate to CSS and not default ? 11:30 indradg on running koha.upgrade script i'm getting marc_word cannot open... table corrupt 11:30 paul mmm... bad... did you try a mysqldump ? 11:31 paul (to dump & backup the DB) 11:31 indradg I did 11:32 indradg but my backup (based on Koha 2.0.0) already has marc_word table corrupt... cannot read marc_word.MDY 11:32 paul so, your DB is corrupted & you must solve this problem. 11:33 indradg however on rolling back to Koha 2.0.0.. clean 2.0.0 install and installing the db backup (even with the corrupt table) searches work 11:34 indradg shouldn't the corruption of marc_word table affect Koha 2.0.0 search functionality? 11:36 paul no. 11:36 paul many changes in search between 2.0 and 2.2 11:36 indradg ok 11:42 hdl paul : dédoublonnage des authorités : cela suppose aussi de faire une procédure montrant TOUS les doublons ou non ? 11:43 paul amha, dès lors qu'il y en a 1, il y a un pb. En tous cas, c'est comme ca que j'ai traité le pb puor les biblios 11:44 hdl ok 11:58 kados hi all 11:59 sylvain hi and bye kados and all