Time Nick Message 12:39 owen paul: if you're there-- I can't get MARCNOTES to appear in opac-detail. Is it working for you? 12:58 slef owen: you been working on 2.2's CSS right? 12:58 owen I've been updating the NPL templates for 2.2 12:58 owen I'm fairly familiar with the default/css ones. 12:59 slef which has been the flurry of commits recently? 13:00 owen NPL templates 13:00 owen They were significantly behind the default ones when 2.2 was released 13:01 slef Ah, I just had someone phone to say default/css are broken in kHTML-based browsers. Who should I ask about that? 13:02 owen I'd be happy to try to help, although I don't have a kHTML browser on hand 13:03 owen Paul's the one who wrote the css in the first place. 13:06 owen Maybe I should bite the bullet and install Cygwin 13:17 slef Is this something I should send to koha-devel? Do we know whether the CSS files validate? 13:18 owen How about filing a bug for it? 13:20 slef because I can't confirm or deny it either :D 13:21 owen I'd say best to get it documented so it can get looked at. 13:38 owen slef: was the problem with the opac, intranet, both, or undetermined? 13:40 slef both... some of the intranet controls were underneath other page elements 13:43 owen The CSS is pretty good as validity goes, but that doesn't mean there couldn't be any number of problems. 13:58 kados that may be the easiest way to go ... what do you think? 13:58 kados oops ;-) 17:49 kados yep ... 17:53 chris heya joshua 17:53 kados hey chris 17:53 kados what's up? 17:53 chris im wondering if i can get a favour 17:53 kados sure ... 17:53 chris would I be able to get you to do a koha marc export of say 500 of your biblio records? 17:53 kados sounds reasonable 17:54 kados there is some sample data in 2.2 misc dir btw 17:54 chris ohh is there ? 17:54 kados I think so 17:54 chris ahh that would do then, ill go look for that 17:56 kados chris: did you find it? I could be wrong about that ... I see sampledata-1.2 ... but no 2.2 sample data 18:00 chris hmm i can find 1.2 sample data 18:00 kados chris: yea ... sorry about the goose chase 18:01 kados chris: I thought I'd seen 2.2 data in there 18:01 chris no worries 18:01 kados I'm not even sure what the best way to export is 18:01 chris id do it using the tool in koha, in the admin/parameters section 18:01 kados chris: do you want from 2.0 or 2.2? 18:02 chris hmm 18:02 chris good question, lets try 2.2 (in theory the MARC should be the same) 18:03 chris im just trying to save myself having to try and munge some data in 18:03 chris before the conference next week 18:03 kados chris: ok ... it's downloading ... 18:04 kados right 18:04 chris i should take a photo of the fancy koha appliance to show ya, ill make sure i take lots of photos at the conference 18:04 chris its metallic green :-) 18:04 kados cool 18:06 kados hmmm, this is taking quite a while ... NPL's ISP is having some probs atm 18:06 chris ahh 18:06 kados may take a bit 18:07 chris right 18:11 kados hmmm, this download seems to have frozen ... I'm going to try a smaller bunch 18:12 chris right, maybe just 50 for a start 18:12 kados how about 5? ;-) 18:12 kados it's coming out as 'marc.pl' 18:12 chris that'll work 18:17 kados we're at about 1.0MB here so far ... not sure how big this is going to be 18:17 chris cripes 18:17 kados chris: it may be broken ... I'm not really sure ... 18:18 chris ud think 5 records would be about 10k 18:18 kados huh ... it's empty 18:19 kados oops ... no it's not 18:19 kados marc.pl.part has stuff 18:19 kados but way more than 5 records 18:19 kados hmmm 18:19 chris hmm 18:20 chris so you just went 1 to 5 for the biblionumbers? 18:20 kados 0 to 5 18:20 kados maybe the problem 18:20 chris i wonder if the 0 throws it off 18:20 kados yea I'll retry with 1 18:21 kados hehe ... ok ... 50 are done 18:21 kados you want 500 then? 18:21 chris that'd be cool 21:42 kados chris around? 21:42 chris yep 21:42 kados have you been able to add items via z39.50 at all? 21:42 kados on your koha 2.2? 21:42 chris havent tried yet, maybe ill give that a whirl right now 21:43 kados it's trixy ... you have to start with an isbn or title 21:43 kados go to add item ... search on that 21:43 kados if it's not in the 'breeding farm || resovoir' then you have to 'add' it ... and then after that you add the isbn and do a search 21:44 kados it isn't working for me ... but no errors are reported 21:44 kados oh ... you need to add a server too 21:44 kados :-) 21:45 chris :) 21:45 chris i gotta get the daemon to start first :) 21:45 kados chris: here's one: z3950.loc.gov: 7090 database: voyager 21:46 kados oh ... maybe that's my problem ... I forgot about the daemon :-) 21:47 kados you getting this: 21:47 kados ./z3950-daemon-shell.sh: line 15: ./z3950-daemon-options: No such file or directory 21:47 chris nope 21:47 chris i have the options file im getting this 21:47 chris Global symbol "$context" requires explicit package name at /usr/local/koha/intranet/scripts/z3950daemon/processz3950queue line 191. 21:48 chris which someone else complained about on the list 21:48 chris hmm i wonder if its fixed in cvs 21:48 kados I just checked this out like a half-hour ago 21:48 kados and didn't get the options dir 21:48 kados oh ... I did rel22 ... dont' know if that matters 21:48 kados sigh 21:49 chris mine is stock 2.2 install 21:49 kados ahh 21:49 chris not from cvs 21:50 kados strante ... it's not in HEAD 21:51 kados huh ... not in rel_2_2 either ... 21:52 kados ahh ... I'm running it from the wrong place :-/ 21:52 kados trixy cvs symlinks 21:52 chris my $context=C4::Context->new(); 21:52 chris if you put that in line 90 of processz3950queue (and have the options file) 21:53 chris it will actually start :) 21:53 kados which one are you running? 21:54 chris z3950-daemon-launch.sh 21:54 chris ok whats a valid isbn ? 21:54 kados 0060512806 21:54 kados that's cryptonomicon 21:55 chris ta 21:56 kados hmmm ... still not working ... no errors either 21:58 chris hmm i had this working once 21:58 kados in 2.2? 21:59 chris naw, in 2.0 22:02 kados so is the idea that the 'launch' replaces the 'shell' version? 22:03 kados didn't it used to be that it had to be run in the shell? 22:04 chris the launch runs the shell 22:04 chris which runs the processqueue 22:04 chris afaict 22:06 chris well its putting stuff in the queue 22:07 kados hmmm ... no network activity that I can see 22:07 chris 7 | 0060512806 | isbn | 1106788036 | 1106788036 | 1 | NULL | NULL | | 22162487.5712259 | 22:07 chris but i cant see that its actually doing anything 22:10 chris ah ha 22:10 chris +----+------------+------+------------+------------+------+---------+------------+---------+------------------+ 22:10 chris | id | term | type | startdate | enddate | done | results | numrecords | servers | identifier | 22:10 chris +----+------------+------+------------+------------+------+---------+------------+---------+------------------+ 22:10 chris | 1 | 1234 | isbn | 1106787294 | 1106787294 | 1 | NULL | NULL | | 246248850.905435 | 22:10 chris servers is blank 22:10 chris so whatever is injecting the requests into the queue 22:10 chris isnt pushing in the server info 22:10 kados huh ... maybe rebuildnonmarc? 22:10 chris naw, its not that 22:11 chris whatever happens when you click on z3950 search 22:11 chris its inserting the isbn number 22:11 chris but not the server info 22:11 chris so then the process queue comes along 22:11 chris processqueue even 22:12 chris looks, goes "no server im done" 22:13 chris so z3950/search.pl is doing something slightly wrong 22:14 chris so im on the hunt to read up on addz3950queue 22:15 kados ok ... 22:15 kados trixy ethereal ;-) 22:16 chris addz3950queue($isbn, "isbn", $random, 'CHECKED'); is hows it called 22:16 chris C<DEFAULT> and C<CHECKED> are synonymous, and refer to those servers 22:16 chris in the z3950servers table whose 'checked' field is set and non-NULL. 22:16 chris hmmm 22:16 chris right i think ive figured it out 22:17 chris make sure you set ur z3950 server to have checked=1 22:17 chris in the parameters 22:18 chris yay 22:18 chris now im the database it says 22:18 chris 9 | 0060512806 | isbn | NULL | NULL | NULL | NULL | NULL | LIBRARY OF CONGRESS/z3950.loc.gov:7090/voyager///MARC21 | 535026217.884482 | 22:18 chris thats more like it 22:22 chris 10834/11 : Processing isbn=0060512806 at LIBRARY OF CONGRESS z3950.loc.gov:7090 voyager MARC21 (1 forks) 22:22 chris 10834/11 : 2 >> 22:22 chris 10834/11 : creating and 10834/11 : working on results entry 3 22:22 chris 10834/11 : connected to LIBRARY OF CONGRESS 22:22 chris Can't call method "size" on an undefined value at processz3950queue line 272. 22:22 chris starting loop 22:22 chris DBD::mysql::st execute warning: at processz3950queue line 142. 22:22 chris yuck 22:26 kados hehe ... that's the last time I run ethereal on my gateway :-) 22:27 chris wb joshua 22:27 chris ive got stuff happening now 22:28 kados cool 22:28 chris i wonder do you know of any other z3950 servers 22:28 chris 10855/12 : Processing isbn=0060512806 at LIBRARY OF CONGRESS z3950.loc.gov:7090 voyager UNIMARC (1 forks) 22:28 chris 10855/12 : 2 >> 22:28 chris 10855/12 : creating and 10855/12 : working on results entry 4 22:28 chris 10855/12 : connected to LIBRARY OF CONGRESS 22:28 chris Can't call method "size" on an undefined value at processz3950queue line 272. 22:29 chris it doesnt appear to like loc too much 22:29 kados yea ... do a google search on 'kados list of z39.50 servers' there's a katipo email 22:29 kados I don't have internet yet 22:29 kados hehe 22:31 chris right 22:31 kados sweet .. back up 22:32 kados http://lists.katipo.co.nz/public/koha/2004/003644.html 22:33 kados :-) 22:33 kados there's always NPL's server :-) 22:33 kados 66.213.78.60:9090 iirc 22:34 chris hehe 22:34 chris nice 22:34 chris 11049/13 : Processing isbn=0060512806 at NATIONAL LIB OF NZ zed.natlib.govt.nz:210 pinz MARC21 (2 forks) 22:34 chris 11049/13 : 2 >> 22:34 chris 11049/13 : creating and 11049/13 : working on results entry 5 22:34 chris 11049/13 : connected to NATIONAL LIB OF NZ 22:34 chris 11049/13 : NATIONAL LIB OF NZ : no records found 22:34 chris 11049/13 : zed.natlib.govt.nz:210 search done. 22:34 chris they dont have it 22:34 kados hehe 22:34 kados huh ... our z-server is down 22:34 chris so it seems to work 22:35 chris as long as you make sure you mark the server checked 22:36 kados so did you decide that loc won't work? 22:36 chris doesnt appear to 22:37 chris yay natlib works 22:40 chris so if you fix processz3950queue, and set up working servers (with checked = 1) then it appears to work 22:43 chris hmm 22:43 kados huh ... still not working for me ... I must be doing something wrong 22:44 chris so does processqueue run? 22:44 kados yea 22:44 kados 'defunct' tho 22:45 kados have you been restarting the launch every time you make a change? 22:45 chris yep 22:45 kados and how have you been stopping it? 22:46 chris try running perl -I /usr/local/koha/intranet/modules processz3950queue 22:46 kados or are you just running them on top of each other 22:46 chris kill 22:46 kados ok .. me too 22:46 chris id try just running the script, without the wrappers, and make sure it runs 22:47 chris ah ha 22:47 chris heres the problem 22:47 kados huh ... I'm getting this: 22:47 kados DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at processz3950queue line 144. 22:47 kados DBD::mysql::st execute failed: MySQL server has gone away at processz3950queue line 149. 22:48 chris right, 22:48 chris somewhere 22:48 chris why? 22:48 chris whoops wrong channel 22:48 kados :-) 22:48 chris right, theres that problem, and also this 22:49 chris now in our set up 22:49 chris we specify MARC21 say (for our server) 22:49 kados right 22:49 chris but in the processqueue script its got 22:49 chris if ($globalsyntax eq "USMARC"); 22:49 kados hehe 22:50 chris so i think if i fix that, then it will actually put some records in the breeding farm 22:51 kados well I get no records found ... and then the mysqlserver has gone away 22:51 chris 1215/16 : Processing title=maori at NATIONAL LIB OF NZ zed.natlib.govt.nz:210 pinz MARC21 (1 forks) 22:51 chris 11215/16 : 2 >> 22:51 chris 11215/16 : creating and 11215/16 : working on results entry 9 22:51 chris 11215/16 : connected to NATIONAL LIB OF NZ 22:51 chris 11215/16 : NATIONAL LIB OF NZ : 273 records found, retrieving them (max 80) 22:51 chris so far so good 22:51 chris yeah then mysql goes away too 22:52 chris what i dont understand is why it doesnt use C4::Context->dbh 22:52 chris instead of making its own connections 22:52 chris but yay i do get some records 22:52 kados I'm using the same server ... but I'm not getting any results ... are you using cryptonomicon? 22:52 chris nope 22:52 chris try title, maori 22:53 chris should get 80 back 22:53 kados ok 22:53 chris oh and line 261 of the processqueue 22:53 chris change USMARC to MARC21 22:53 chris and then it sticks stuff in the breeding farm 22:54 kados yep ... I got 80 back 22:54 kados I did change USMARC to MARC21 ... 22:54 chris sweet 22:54 chris so you should have got some results in ur little pop up window 22:55 kados I still get that mysql server has gone away 22:55 chris yep me too 22:55 chris thats cos it does go away 22:55 kados yea results are popping up here 22:55 chris i think thats an ignorable error 22:55 chris well, id like to fix it, but it doesnt seem to stop it working 22:56 chris but now i have to go measure a power supply 22:56 kados :-) 22:56 kados have fun 22:56 kados thanks for the help 05:30 chris hi paul 05:30 paul hi chris 05:30 paul good night ? 05:30 paul very cold here in France (but less than in Ohio !) 05:31 chris :) its 19c outside at the moment 05:31 paul +1c in Marseille !!! 05:31 chris thats pretty 05:31 paul (yesterday, was -2 !) 05:34 chris http://opac.qa.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl <-- new theme for the opac, its pretty much the css one, just prettied up a bit 05:35 chris getting it ready for the conference we go to this weekend, richard is hard at work on the templates