Time Nick Message 12:42 paul g'morning owen 12:43 owen Hi 17:13 rach hello 17:53 owen Hi rach, I didn't see you come in. 17:53 owen I like the new designs you posted 17:57 rach thank you 17:58 rach I have a new PC, which doesn't kick me off IRC every time the screen saver comes on 17:58 rach so I'm finally back to being able to pay attention 17:58 rach rather than doing a merekat impersionation 17:59 rach but it does mean I'm lurking a bit more :-) 17:59 rach so owen, when used in a page, do you still get that "surprised" feeling? 17:59 rach with the logo 18:01 owen Yeah, kinda. But I have a tendency to see things that aren't there. ;) 18:09 rach have you done those inkblot thingys? 18:12 owen Not since they let me out 18:13 rach :-) 18:15 owen Did I read correctly that someone's going to try to do your designs up in HTML? 18:15 rach yep 18:16 rach lucky man :-) 18:18 owen Shouldn't be too hard, except for that opacity thing 18:18 rach he likes a challenge :-) 18:20 rach owen what does the admin for your koha look like? 18:20 owen The admin home page? 18:21 rach yes 18:21 rach could I possibly get you to send me a screen shot? 18:22 rach or is it the one that paul did? 18:22 rach ta 18:22 rach interesting, we don't have an option to change theme for the admin side, in the same way as we do for the opac 18:23 owen http://66.213.78.40/temp/koha-admin.gif 18:25 chris yep we do rach 18:25 chris its just called template though 18:25 chris Preference order for intranet interface templates 18:26 owen Here's the circ screen, from our test server (that's why my account is in such bad shape, I swear!) 18:26 owen http://66.213.78.40/temp/koha-circ.gif 18:26 rach ah that's right 18:26 rach thanks owen 18:27 rach so you've put acquisitions into cataloging 18:28 owen We lump all that together. But really we don't do acquisitions in Koha, so I don't have a good idea of the workflow. 18:31 rach oh that's a bit weird 18:47 kados hi everyone 18:49 kados owen we may be doing acquisitions in koha pretty soon ... stephen wants to cancel our ITSMARC subscription this year 18:49 owen Catalogers will be pissed. 18:49 kados he's asked me to get the cataloging interface up and running (the Z39.50 aspect of it that we're not using) 18:49 kados yea 18:50 kados the main problem will probably be authorities on the records 18:50 kados I haven't had a chance to see how koha handles authorities yet ... but I doubt it's as advanced as ITSMARC 18:51 kados (lower quality records also means worse searching btw) 18:51 owen There are large parts of the acquisitions system that I'm not familiar with 18:51 kados same here 18:52 owen I haven't updated any z39.50 templates in a while. I'm not sure what their status is. 19:21 kados si around? 19:21 owen kados: z39.50 isn't working on 101 is it? 19:37 kados si if you arrive anytime soon ... here's my problem: 19:38 kados I can boot the net4801 off my nfs share fine 19:38 kados so debian is running now on it 19:38 kados but 19:38 kados the cf card is showing up as hdb instead of hda 19:39 kados so when I try to run lilo (after changing /etc/fstab to mount from the local filesystem) I get an error like this: 19:39 kados Warning: /dev/hdb is not on the first disk 19:39 kados and: 19:39 kados Fatal: Trying to map files from unnamed device 0x0009 (NFS ?) 19:40 si so your root file system is your HD, or still NFS? 19:40 kados currently I've got / which is the NFS 19:40 si some CF apparently are outside spec, and don't come up correctly on 4501's 19:40 kados and /mnt which is the CF card (hdb) 19:40 si I've got a few that come up as slaves 19:40 si right, so you need to tell lilo to chroot to /mnt 19:40 kados ahh ... 19:41 si -r root-directory 19:41 si Before doing anything else, do a chroot to the indicated direc- 19:41 si tory. The new root directory must contain a /dev directory, and 19:41 si may need a /boot directory. It may also need an /etc/lilo.conf 19:41 si file. 19:42 kados sweet 19:42 si you may also need -b as well 19:42 si alternately 19:42 kados so you think 'lilo -r /mnt' 19:42 kados would do it? 19:42 si you could mangle your nfs boot line so that it actually loaded /dev/hdb1 as it's root, rather than the nfs partition 19:43 si so that you're using tftp only to boot the kernel 19:43 kados yea I was going to try that next :-) 19:43 si then you'd be able to install lilo without needing the mad chrooting stuff 19:43 si just try various combinations of -r -b and -A, until it works 19:43 kados thanks si! 19:43 si that's what I do, randomly 19:44 kados :-) 19:44 kados lilo -r /mnt gave: 19:44 kados same Warning (not the first disk) 19:44 kados and 19:44 kados Added Linux * 19:45 kados si can you think of a reason that the CF is showing up as hdb instead of hda? (is that what you were mentioning just a sec ago?) 19:45 si yes 19:45 kados ahh 19:45 si it's discussed in the soekris archives, if you can be arsed googling 19:46 si but on the 4501's there's not a great deal you can do about it 19:46 si buy a better flash, or live with it seem to be the choices 19:47 si ctrl p, and then "boot f0" 19:47 si will force it back to a netboot, if the lilo is munged 19:47 kados right :-) 19:48 kados hehe ... does this mean it's munged?: 19:48 kados L 00 00 00 00 00 00 ad infinitum 19:48 si yup 19:48 si but it means you're half way there 19:48 kados k ... I'll just change the fstab in the nfs 19:58 kados strange that these cards are of different quality ... they all seem to cost about the same 19:58 kados the same kinds of problems exist with the SD cards ... I had to scrap one of those with my Zaurus because it wouldn't hold on to a filesystem 19:59 kados switched to another brand and problems went away 20:04 kados soekris finally grabs kernel 20:06 kados sweet ... mounted on /dev/hdb1 20:07 kados grrr ... still get the Fatal: Trying to map files fron unnamed device 0x0009 (NFS ?) 20:07 kados when I run lilo 20:11 tim Hey chris! Your 'Flat Stanley" is on the way. 20:11 chris cool ill keep an eye on my inbox 20:11 chris there it is 20:12 tim We'll be having more kids make some later so you'll have to wait a bit kados. 20:12 tim Let me know if you have any problems with the stuff I sent. 20:12 kados hehe np ... I'll keep posted :-) 20:12 chris looks all good to me 20:12 kados si: any more ideas? 20:12 chris hes at a meeting joshua 20:12 kados ahh ... thanks 20:36 kados I think the problem was that I was overriding lilo with some kernel statements in my 'default' file (TFTP) 20:52 kados shoot! ... it booted off the network and mounted the CF filesystem ... I ran lilo and it gave the warning but no fatal message ... I rebooted and lilo still gives me the L 00 00 prob