Time Nick Message 17:03 kados <!-- TMPL_INCLUDE NAME="gatewayBar.inc" --> 17:03 kados <!-- TMPL_INCLUDE NAME="masthead.inc" --> 17:03 kados <!-- TMPL_INCLUDE NAME="doc-head-close.inc" --> 17:02 kados obviously doc-head and footer can't do that 17:02 kados right ... but if every include was independent of the other (in other words, didn't leave any tags open) it might be easier to conceptualize them 17:01 owen I'm all for making template easier to modify, but sometimes it's easier to approach a template if everything's there where you can see it. Otherwise you have to be able to conceptualize each and every include before you can get a picture of the page in your mind. 17:00 kados we could have ONE template that did everything based on the variables that were passed to it ... though I'm not sure that would be a good idea ... 16:57 kados I need to think about it a bit more 16:57 kados we can't swap the order of them aroud without ruining the validation of the page 16:56 kados that's the trouble ... it seems that currently our components (includes) aren't independent enough 16:56 owen How do you define a component? 16:55 kados well basically every component could be an include 16:54 owen Like what? 16:54 kados yea 16:54 owen Are you saying there are more components to each page that should be put into includes? 16:54 kados it's hard to explain 16:54 kados yea ... hmmm, maybe I need to put together an example of what I mean 16:53 owen Right, and that's the way it is now. 16:53 kados those should always be includes 16:53 kados well there are things that every page has ... document head, body tags, maybe a gateway bar, and footers 16:52 owen Yeah, I'm not sure I get it. 16:51 kados I'm not explaining this very well 16:51 kados if each include was a seperate entity (could be placed independently of the other includes) then it would be easy to move them aroud to build different pages 16:50 kados so we already do this a bit 16:50 kados and the main pages where constructed with includes (no actual html in them) 16:49 kados what if we broke every "component" up into a series of includes 16:49 owen Shoot. 16:49 owen Yes. 16:49 kados I've an idea related to templates 16:49 kados owen around?