Time Nick Message 18:03 kados chris around yet? 18:03 chris staff meeting joshua, be with ya later tho 18:04 kados cool ... 18:04 rach yep 18:05 kados sweet 20:14 kados any particular reason this form won't work: 20:14 kados <form method="Post" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="biblionumber" -->"> 20:14 kados <input type="submit" value="Details" /></form> 20:15 kados it spits me back to the opac-search.pl page 20:18 chris got a </form> ? 20:18 chris and its not inside another form? 20:28 kados hmmm ... this is really strange. it works for some items but those items don't have any item information when they display ... and no holdings information either 20:29 kados http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl 20:29 kados search on "a series of unfortunate" 20:29 kados click on "Details" 20:29 kados http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=48240 20:30 kados maybe I'm missing my tmpl_loop somewhere along the line (using incs can be confusing) 20:33 chris hmm no its somehting more weird 20:33 chris ie if i click details 20:33 chris i get to the right page 20:33 chris stuff doesnt show 20:33 chris but if i hit reload, it does 20:33 chris you're not doing something fancy with javascript or something are u? 20:34 kados yep 20:34 kados oh ... no I don't think so 20:34 chris ie if i type in http://66.213.78.101/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=48240 the page shows fine 20:34 kados right 20:34 chris but if i get there from the search it doesnt 20:34 kados weird eh? 20:41 chris ohhhh 20:41 chris perfectly simple 20:41 chris ur doing a post right 20:41 kados right 20:42 chris but ur crafting the url like it was a get 20:42 kados ahh ... so what's the right syntax? 20:42 chris so ur not actually passing the biblio number through at all 20:42 chris <form method=post action=/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl> 20:42 kados I don't think it works at all as a get 20:43 chris <input type=hidden name=bib value=something> 20:43 chris ie, actually pass the info thru :) 20:44 chris or you could go <a href=/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?bib=something>Details</a> 20:44 chris but you dont put the ?variable=something in the action of a form 20:46 chris that make sense? 20:46 kados yep 20:46 kados thanks 21:06 kados ok ... it's working ... only complaint is that the "value" field is also the field that's displayed ... instead of "Details" it now has the biblionumber 21:07 chris thats why i suggested a hidden input 21:07 chris and keep ur submit as it was :) 21:08 kados ahh :-) 21:10 kados hmmm it is hidden 21:10 kados <form method="POST" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl?"> 21:10 kados <input type="submit" type=hidden name=bib value=<!-- TMPL_VAR NAME="biblionumber" --> title="details" /> 21:10 kados </form> 21:12 chris type="submit" type=hidden 21:13 chris id do 21:13 chris <form method="POST" action="/cgi-bin/koha/opac-detail.pl"> 21:13 chris no ? 21:13 chris and <input type=hidden name=bib value=<!-- TMPL_VAR 21:13 chris NAME="biblionumber" --> title="details" /> 21:13 chris then <input type=submit value=Details> 21:13 chris </form> 21:14 kados ahh 21:15 kados hmmm now I get two buttons 21:15 kados ahh ive got an extra type 21:15 chris yep 21:15 kados thanks chris! 21:15 chris no worries 21:16 kados (what do you think of the templates ?) 21:16 chris its nice 21:16 chris not gonna get in trouble with cincinatti? 21:16 kados well I'm mostly doing it to learn the templating 21:16 chris right 21:16 kados I"m thinking of releasing them annonomously tho as a proof of concept for Koha 21:17 kados (the're paying $70 annual license for sirci) 21:17 kados $70K that is :-) 21:17 chris eeek 21:17 chris thats madness 21:17 kados yup 21:17 chris u could hire me twice fulltime for that hehe 21:17 kados hehe 21:18 chris well one and a half anyway 21:18 chris id go mental 21:18 kados hehe 21:18 chris id give it a month 21:18 chris :) 21:18 kados :-) 21:18 chris 70k a year is a lot of books 21:19 chris cool 21:19 kados as a subscription service or annual support service 21:19 chris right 21:20 chris i think selling ppl an annual support contract, would actually make koha more attractive 21:20 chris in a weird way 21:20 chris ie, ppl still have the idea that if its free its gonna be crap 21:20 rosa I agree with you (having missed the rest of the conversation 21:20 chris joshua was saying he was investigating the possibility of marketing koha professionally 21:21 chris support contracts = piece of mind 21:21 chris peace even :) 21:21 kados yea that's what I'm thinking 21:21 chris a koha appliance 21:21 kados I'm really sick of library admins saying Koha isn't viable cause it's free 21:21 kados so might as well charge for it :-)_ 21:22 chris ie, you rock in with a box, koha installed, plug it in and they pay you to maintain said box 21:22 kados yep 21:22 kados or just have lots of bandwidth and a server farm using ssl 21:22 chris could even do fancy case mods and make it look pretty :) 21:22 chris theres something comforting about a machine in your machine room though :) 21:23 chris but yep, you could offer lots of options 21:23 kados yea ... though for me it's much easier to troubleshoot from my living room :-) 21:23 chris well, u make them make a ssh tunnel thru the firewall for you ;) 21:24 chris i havent had to drive to levin to mess with HLT's koha ... hmm in a long long time 21:24 kados hehe 21:25 chris we (katipo) host a couple of Koha installs for people 21:25 kados does opening a ssh tunnel generally meet with resistance? 21:25 chris depends on the clue of the network/sys admin 21:25 kados I guess it does open things up for a man-in-the-middle 21:25 chris if they are knowledgeable, not usually 21:25 kados but I'd think spoofing a thrid-party ssl would be pretty tough 21:26 chris its a tradeoff 21:26 chris like all security is 21:27 chris certainly we couldnt do what we do without ssh 21:27 chris well not for the price's we charge 21:28 chris ie if i had to physically be in front of clients machines .. id spend all day driving 21:28 kados right 21:28 kados that'd really suck 21:29 chris most ppl are pretty calm about ssh from a certain ip 21:29 kados I'm really bad with directions so half the time I get lost 21:29 chris heh 21:30 kados what kind of bandwidth do you think a remote Koha install would require on my end ... think 512K would do? 21:30 chris it'll depend entirely on how many ppl want to use it at once 21:31 chris 512K could get eaten quite fast if you had a few opac users and a few librarians at once 22:18 kados sweet 22:18 kados so that's the CGI module, right? 22:18 kados or is it HTML::Template? 22:19 chris i think HTML::Template 22:32 kados chris I've been wondering this for years ... I thought I saw you (when you visited) purge your mutt account of deleted messages without exiting ... was that a brain fart? 22:32 kados I've searched high and low with no results :-) 22:35 chris nope 22:35 chris $ 22:35 chris shift-4 22:35 chris try that 22:36 chris its good to do it occasionally even if you dont have deleted messages 22:37 chris cos it will commit changes, ie the messages u already read, wont show up as new when u restart if it crashes or ur screen crashes or something 22:37 kados ahh 22:37 kados cool thanks 22:37 chris no worries 22:38 kados :-) 22:39 chris nice 22:39 chris this isnt koha stuff, i think 8 mins is my record for a remote koha install 06:18 JYL57 Hello ! 06:18 JYL57 Paul available ?! 08:09 GenjiBed hiya paul.. how do i get into koha's cvs? i got a cvs client now, and i feel motivated. 08:46 JYL57 paul ?! 09:54 JYL57 Paul, chris, Genji, someone ?! 09:54 paul oui, je suis là 09:54 paul bonjour jean yves 09:54 JYL57 Ok Paul 09:54 JYL57 t'as 5 mn 09:55 paul zyva, pose ta question, on verra 09:55 JYL57 fines2.pl bug chez moi 09:55 paul je l'ai pas testé depuis longtemps. 09:55 paul possible qu'il soit incompatible avec la v2.2 09:56 paul mets un bug sur bugs.koha.org, je regarderai dès quepossible 09:56 JYL57 C'est dommage ! Comment je fais avec mes amendes ?! 09:56 paul mmm... en fait, c'est même plus que possible 09:56 JYL57 Il y en a déjà 1 : 756 de mémoire 09:56 paul les amendes sont dans issuingrules maintenant, plus dans jesaisplusou 09:57 paul regarde dans le code et remplace jesaisplusou par issuingrules 09:57 JYL57 Oui, mais quel job dois-je mettre dans la cron table ?! 09:57 JYL57 Ok, je modifie chez moi le fines.pl alors ! 09:57 paul par exemple 09:57 paul et si ca marche, tu me l'envoies je le commiterai 09:58 JYL57 ok, mais comment font les autres ?! pas d'amendes en cours pour personne alors... 10:40 paul JYL57, ceux qui sont en 2.2 en france ne font pas d'amende, effectivement 10:41 paul (l'EMN en fait, puisque les 2 autres, Dombes et Sorbonne ne font pas de prêt, donc pas d'amende ;-) ) 10:45 JYL57 Ok, je joue avec fines & fines2 et t'envoie quelque chose... 10:46 JYL57 Il n'y a donc personne qui utilise 2.2 avec amendes, même hors france ?! 10:57 paul (mais sur ce point, il y a pas mal de bibs qui ont développé des "trucs locaux")