Time Nick Message 13:06 paul Hi american friends that are on irc now 13:07 owen Hi 13:11 owen Paul can I ask you a question about serials? 13:12 paul yes. 13:12 owen I'm confused about the numbering calculation 13:12 owen The help file says to use this kind of formula: N°{X}/{Y} 13:14 paul yes, and ? 13:14 owen ...I guess I just don't understand! 13:14 paul when you recieve an item, it usually has a number. 13:15 owen Yes, like 'Volume 3, Number 10' 13:15 paul for example, the actual linuxjournal is the #127 13:16 paul yes. so, what is your problem ? 13:16 owen When you're adding a subscription, how do you fill out the 'numbering calculation' form? 13:16 owen How does the numbering formula work? 13:17 paul {X} will be replaced by the number calculated from the 1st row of the table just under the formula 13:17 paul for example : 13:17 paul Number {X} 13:17 paul is the formula 13:17 paul X being : 13:18 paul Add 1 once every 1. When more than 99999 set back to 1 Begins with 127 13:18 paul will create Number 127, 1st, then Number 128,... 13:18 paul You can create formulaes as complex as Number {X}-{Y} volume {Z} (with 3 variables changing independantly) 13:19 owen I see, and the {Y} and {Z} could be for Volumes and Years 13:19 paul yep. 13:20 owen How should I fill in the box labeled 'numbering formula' ? 13:20 paul You enter what you want and it's taken as you enter it. 13:20 paul {X} {Y} and {Z} are replaced by calculated number. 13:20 paul the rest is kept as you enter it. 13:21 paul So "Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z} " 13:21 paul will give "Volume 1 Number 123, year 2004" 13:21 paul (for example) 13:22 owen I see, so I should type out 'Volume {Y} Number {X}, year {Z}' in that numbering formula box so that when issues are added the volume information is displayed correctly. 13:22 paul yes 13:23 owen Great. That makes sense now. I'm upgrading the NPL templates, and I've been trying to get to know the new features. 13:23 paul feel free to update online help if you find a better manner to explain ;-) 13:27 owen One other question: Under 'subscription length' it asks you to specify 'number of num'. Does that mean the number of issues in the subscription? 13:27 paul yes 13:27 paul (I correct the template immediatly) 13:27 owen And do you only need to enter information for one of those three? (issues, weeks, or months?) 13:28 paul yes 13:29 owen I see now that your online help could have answered that last question! I didn't see it. 13:29 paul template change commited 13:38 owen Hi tim 13:40 tim Hi owen 14:16 shedges hello, all 14:16 owen Hi Stephen 14:24 paul hi shedges & tim 14:24 shedges hi paul 14:25 paul owen / shedges : did I ask you to send me your marc parameters tables updated to 2.2 ? 14:25 paul I don't remember... 14:25 shedges owen, do we have them yet? 14:26 paul (2.1.3 in fact, of course, 2.2 is not officially available) 14:26 paul it's for the installer. I must update the official MARC21 default table. 14:26 paul I remember asking for authorities MARC DB 14:27 paul & I also remember stephen sended it to me 14:27 shedges yeah,that's on sourceforge 14:27 paul (was it stephen ? not sure) 14:27 owen 101 is updated from CVS. I'm not sure what has changed in the parameters though 14:28 shedges (Paul, I wan't to change the copyright language a little on the doc I sent you, use GNU FDL. I send a new version for you to approve.) 14:29 tim hi shedges, paul, everyone else I missed. 14:29 shedges I haven't changed anything on 101, haven't really looked at it yet. 14:34 paul back 14:34 paul owen & shedges : what I need is an updated version of the mysqldump -c koha marc_tag_structure marc_subfield_structure. 14:35 paul the -c being to get field name 14:35 paul A fresh dump should help having a better default marc21 structure. 14:36 shedges I'll edit the current tables (in a couple of days, I'm gone to a meeting for a while) then do a fresh dump 14:36 paul ok, nice, thanks 14:37 paul in france 48 hours before an election, it's forbidden for the ppl wanting to be elected to speak 14:37 paul and forbidden to publish new stats 14:38 paul so, it's quite ;-) 14:38 shedges good rule! Bush voted this morning in Texas, then came to Ohio to campaign some more 14:38 owen I wish polls were forbidden here as well. I especially wish that exit polling was forbidden. 14:38 shedges here, here! 14:38 shedges or is that hear!, hear! 14:39 owen I don't know if anyone even knows! 14:39 paul exit polling are ok here in france, but can be announced only 1 second after the last voting place closes ! 14:39 owen That sounds like a good rule 14:39 paul so, 8PM usually, because Paris/Marseille/Lyons usually closes at 8PM 14:40 paul other small cities closing at 7PM, or 6PM 14:41 shedges we have to wait until the polls in California close, i think at 10:00 pm our time 14:42 paul note, to continue on this subject, that in France, your vote method seems really strange. 14:42 paul electors vote by states, to elect "big electors", 14:42 paul that have elect the president. 14:42 paul quite strange for us, that elect the president directly. 14:43 shedges yeah, we think it's strange, too -- we assumed we got it from the French ;-) 14:43 paul in France we used this system in the 4th republic. 14:43 shedges (that's where we got it, then!) 14:43 paul (3rd, sorry) 14:44 paul de Gaulle changed it because the parlment & french president was too unstable 14:44 paul because we don't have only 2 major party. 14:48 shedges it would be nice to change our system -- but that will _never_ happen 14:48 paul why ? because it's in your constitution ? 14:48 paul (not sure constitution is the english word) 14:48 paul (it's the french one at least ;-) ) 14:49 shedges no, just because it's a "sacred" American tradition 14:49 shedges even though the reasons for the original system are no longer valid 14:49 shedges (lots of ways to cheat in the early days) 14:49 paul and it will survive 2000 and (i don't hope) 2004 days after the election ? 14:50 shedges (also the Foundaing Fathers were all elitists) 14:50 paul because it's something that makes laugh... 14:50 owen You're justified in being an elitist if you're Thomas Jefferson. 14:50 paul (/me means laugh, but in french "yellow laugh" means laugh, but is not really happy) 14:51 shedges Rachel should be here -- she knows more American history than Americans do! 14:57 paul look http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Fourth_Republic and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Republic 14:58 paul to learn a little bit more on our republic history ;-) 14:58 paul (wikipedia is the best ...)