Time  Nick     Message
12:26 kados    actually it was the second
12:26 kados    the first time we didn't mention the rss thingy
12:26 kados    oops
13:37 kados    ok
13:42 kados    hmmm I replaced it with the latest 2.0 from cvs and renewals still aren't working
13:42 kados    owen can you confirm that renewals are not working?
15:01 kados              Would it be possible to keep a tab of the items that need to be
15:01 kados              transfered and putting that info in a small side-bar with
15:01 kados    [Mon Oct 18 14:28:00 2004] [error] [client 24.208.176.188] File does not exist: /usr/local/koha/opac/htdocs/opac-tmpl/npl-v/en/includes/opac.css
15:34 kados    how'd that grep go?
15:54 kados    owen here's what I get:
15:54 kados    koha:/build/koha# grep -lr npl-v/en/includes/opac.css /usr/local/koha/*
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/intranet/htdocs/intranet-tmpl/npl/en/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/npl/en/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.old
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.1
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-error_log.log.1
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/log/opac-access_log.1
15:54 kados    /usr/local/koha/opac-access_log.log
15:54 kados    which is kinda silly since these are all logs :-)
15:56 kados    owen: try grep -lr opac.css /usr/local/koha/*
15:56 kados    that output is a bit more interesting
15:57 rach     howdy
15:59 owen     Hi rach
16:00 rach     was v pretty
16:00 rach     we got a bit lost on the way home from the fair
16:01 rach     lucky the car knew which way East was :-)
16:03 owen     You visited at a good time--the fall colors are at their peak
16:04 rach     yep
16:04 rach     we got attacked by geese on the way home :-)
16:04 rach     that is how lost we were
16:04 rach     and got a good old stare from a yokel
16:06 owen     Yep, we've got our share of those.
16:06 owen     Are you in Pittsburgh now?
16:06 rach     nope back home now
16:07 rach     Chris and Laurell will be driving the west coast on honeymoon
16:08 owen     Oh, I'm confused because your message made it through to the Koha list just today :)
16:09 rach     ah yes - chris and I moderate the list, and with us away, it didn't get through
16:09 rach     for the koha list
16:09 owen     Are those from people who aren't posting from an address that is subscribed?
16:14 rach     a mix of those and just spam
16:14 rach     so there would have only been a couple of "real" messages in the big pile
16:15 rach     We are trying to get an upgrade of mailman going so that it deals with the spam itself
16:15 rach     which would be nice
16:19 owen     Yeah, shouldn't it just bounce messages which aren't from subscribed users?
16:30 rach     ah no - because the you get into DNA situations
16:31 rach     where you're used to attack something else
16:31 tungsten hi
16:31 rach     hi
16:31 tungsten I like your htkm pages
16:32 rach     erg - DNS not DNA
16:32 tungsten can you answer a question on item count?
16:32 rach     I can have a go
16:36 tungsten koha 123 when I bulk import I get one item count The script does not go into the full record ie it only picks up the first 852 locqal holding tag if I run make a mark record and keep running the the bulimport all the 852 are picked up in other words if I have 5 copies I need to run bulkimport 5 times the first will be seen but the other 4 update to where the number of copies should be
16:39 rach     hmm
16:39 tungsten thanks
16:40 rach     that sounds a bit naff, but quite possible
16:43 rach     sorry that's not much help
16:43 rach     I'm not sure what chris does in that situation - knowing him he just runs it 5 times
16:44 rach     do you have a lot of them?
16:45 tungsten yes
16:46 rach     it doesn't error or anything?
16:46 rach      it just only sees the first one?
16:46 tungsten yes
16:47 tungsten the error is a skipping error line 508 in bulkimport
16:47 rach     did you send this to the list - I think I saw something like it
16:48 tungsten however if there are 5 I get 4 errors the first time thru and decremnt the error each time
16:48 rach     I can send a mail to chris and see if he has a quick fix
16:48 rach     that is just weird
16:49 rach     and why are you using Koha 1.3?
16:49 rach     or is it 2.3?
16:49 tungsten koha 123
16:49 kados    rach I'm here
16:49 tungsten 2.0 is too difficult to set up
16:49 rach     :-)
16:49 rach     fair enuff
16:50 tungsten koha 123 when I bulk import I get one item count The script does not go into the full record ie it only picks up the first 852 locqal holding tag if I run make a mark record and keep running the the bulimport all the 852 are picked up in other words if I have 5 copies I need to run bulkimport 5 times the first will be seen but the other 4 update to where the number of copies should be
16:50 rach     Joshua have you come acrross that before?
16:50 kados    nope ...
16:50 kados    I'd recommend 2.0.1
16:51 kados    there is no marc support in koha 123
16:51 tungsten what do you mean
16:52 rach     yes there is joshua
16:52 rach     you're able to import marc
16:52 kados    oh, right
16:52 rach     you just don't have to see it :-)
16:53 rach     and it doesn't store it as MARC seperate to the Koha DB
16:53 tungsten so I won't
16:53 kados    right ... so it looks like there's a problem with the 'repeatable' feature of the bulkmarcimport in koha 123
16:53 tungsten be able to bulkexport?
16:54 rach     yep
16:54 rach     umm
16:54 rach     I'll think about that
16:54 tungsten how to upgrade from 123 to 2.0
16:54 rach     in the later versions of Koha, the records are basically stored twice
16:55 rach     in MARC "native" format, and in Koha
16:55 rach     I *believe* that you can still export from original Koha, and Chris has been working on update scripts for earilier versions to the latest ones
16:56 rach     although we haven't been recommending people upgrade from 1.x to 2.0
16:56 kados    The upgrade path from koha 123 is likely harder than just installing 2.0.1 from scratch
16:56 rach     as if you're happy not seeing MARC there hasn't been any gains
16:56 rach     it's 2.2 that has features you're likely to get some benefit from
16:57 kados    yea 2.2's got some nice stuff
16:57 tungsten I'll give 2.0.1 a try but I found that if a record has a LOC tag it bypases 082 dewey and 853 local holdings
16:57 rach     and that's what we'll want to upgrade HLT to
16:57 rach     which will be the big upgrade project
16:57 rach     for us anyway
16:57 kados    yea ... us too
16:58 kados    we're actually already running some 2.2 stuff on our opac
16:58 kados    like the bookbag and improved searching features
16:58 rach     we've been upgrading UNIDO from the pre release, to 2.0 but that's a little different I guess
16:58 rach     yep
16:59 rach     anyway. tungsten (I'm thinking Steve as a first name?), I've mailed Chris, we did get mail from him earlier today, so you might be in luck and he might be online checking his mail
16:59 tungsten is 2.2 easier than 2.0 with paameter settings or are they pretty much the same
16:59 rach     same I think
16:59 rach     but you can do really simple parameter settings - so that it's like 1.23 if you want
17:00 rach     that's what we've been doing for people
17:00 rach     just turning off the MARC stuff from a display POV, and using simple acquisitions
17:00 rach     and it's pretty simple
17:00 rach      if you use the vanilla templates (rather than default) I think it even looks ok
17:02 tungsten it's the 010 tag LOC # that ruins dewey
17:03 tungsten thanks again g2g
17:46 rach     hi rosalie