Time  Nick      Message
13:28 slef      hi all
13:29 slef      Is it too early for kiwis?
13:29 owen      A little, I think
13:29 owen      hi slef
13:31 slef      Anything thought of more to cover in the arch discussion starter?
13:31 owen      Does the conversion process retain the history that's already in a CVS repository?
13:33 slef      I didn't. Some of it can be done, but it's an attempt to turn sausages back into pigs. I'd just leave the CVS archive up as a store, maybe with all files deleted in HEAD.
13:33 owen      I suppose that makes sense
13:34 slef      Sausages/pigs => when you do a multi-file commit in CVS, it actually just commits each file in turn. With a remote laggy server like sourceforge, you start trying to reconstruct from the timestamps and usernames.
13:34 slef      Not an easy problem, sadly.
13:34 slef      oh, and the log messages, as most cvs users use the same log message for multiple files, which sucks but actually helps in this case.
13:35 owen      sucks if you're making different changes to each file, makes sense if you're adding the same thing to each one.
13:36 slef      of course
13:37 owen      when you were talking about developers not documenting their changes yesterday, were you talking about CVS log messages, or inline comments? Or both?
13:37 slef      more inline comments and perldoc
13:39 slef      the koha cvs is better than most for log messages
13:39 slef      occasionally it's vague, but that's rare
13:42 owen      Did my comment yesterday about circulation.pl make sense?
13:44 owen      (bug 436)
14:08 slef      yes
14:22 indradg   hi... anyone here using kbarcode with Koha?
14:22 rach      hi
14:22 indradg   hi rachel
14:22 owen      kbarcode is a barcode-generator, right?
14:22 indradg   owen: thats right
14:23 owen      So it doesn't really have to work *with* Koha, does it?  Because Koha will accept any barcoding system you want.
14:23 owen      ...with alterations to the database, in some cases :(
14:23 indradg   owen: yes... semantically u r correct :)
14:24 owen      :)
14:24 indradg   i'm facing a small problem with the barcodes I generated and while I can write a small script to take care of it... i was just looking for someone who may have some experience of using kbarcode
14:25 owen      Paul is best reached earlier in the day (or night, as the case may be).
14:26 indradg   right... i know :)
14:26 rach      or e-mail him
14:28 indradg   its a silly problem... I had calculated/generated (using OOo Calc) 10-digit numbers for my items, with the last digit as checksum
14:28 indradg   same logic as ISBN checkdigit
14:29 indradg   the trouble is that when I pass that number to kbarcode to generate the PDFs of the actual barcodes... kbarcode is appending 978 (bookland suffix) to my number and dropping off the checkdigit
14:31 indradg   of course I can take care of it using a few lines of client-side Javascript :P
14:43 rach      euw that's not so good
14:50 indradg   rachel: what do u suggest?
14:54 rach      sorry I don't have any useful suggestion
14:54 rach      other than perhaps to ask kbarcode?
14:55 indradg   yeah
14:56 indradg   thnaks anyways :)
15:00 rach      or check with Paul
15:04 indradg   yup... will do that!
15:06 rach      nice e-mail on list owen :-)
15:06 owen      Thanks.  Can't snark at a person about not seeing the footer if they've just joined the list, eh?
15:07 rach      yep
15:30 slef      Europe is the place to be for football, cycling and skiing coverage
15:31 slef      There are even web sites like www.knplogic.co.uk/sport/ that track football
15:31 rach      mmm skiing
15:31 slef      which reminds me, I wonder what happened to Tyler Hamilton
15:31 rach      we had a few days snowboarding on our way too and from library conference
15:31 rach      sanity breaks :-)
15:32 slef      damn commentator is shouting
15:36 rach      lol
16:07 christian helo
16:07 christian i am new
16:08 owen      Welcome!
16:10 rach      Hi christian
16:11 christian of which subject speaks
16:12 rach      we're just hanging out at the moment really
16:12 rach      you're welcome to ask a question, and we might be able to help
16:14 christian that process makes the Context.pm?
16:15 rach      but good to start with which version of Koha you are using
16:16 christian I am using the 2.1.1
16:28 rach      sorry phone
16:28 rach      erg and I have to go to a meeting
16:29 rach      and I'm not much help with that - if you're on the koha -devel list then ask there
16:30 christian thanks,
16:31 christian even when it is the opening of chat?
20:01 kados     chris around?
20:01 chris     yep
20:01 kados     does this url work for you:
20:02 kados      http://kados.org/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/index.rss
20:02 kados     I am trying to troubleshoot the bloglines thingy
20:02 chris     right
20:02 kados     (/me assumes that bloglines isn't working for you again, right)
20:02 kados     it's not working for me
20:02 kados     well .. my feed that is
20:02 chris     shows up in mozilla ok
20:02 kados     yea ... for me too
20:02 chris     yeah it wasnt last i checked
20:03 kados     it may be a timeout issue
20:03 kados     my machine is pretty slow tho so I can't figure a way to speed things up
20:03 chris     yeah could well be
20:03 chris     it could be the connection that is slow too
20:03 kados     I moved from sendmail to postfix and that helped the load
20:03 chris     will help u not get owned too :-)
20:03 kados     hmmm ... well I've got a cablemodem ... it's pretty fast
20:04 chris     apache 2?
20:04 kados     yep
20:04 kados     2.0.50 I think
20:04 chris     right
20:06 chris     whats ur load now?
20:06 kados      21:06:54 up 29 days,  4:39, 30 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.17, 0.09
20:07 kados     what'dr ya up to?
20:07 kados     :-)
20:07 chris     that looks not bad
20:08 kados     kernel : 2.6.8-1.521
20:08 chris     13:08:36 up 24 days,  4:01, 23 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
20:09 chris     my machine isnt doing much at all :)
20:09 kados     :-)
20:09 kados     this is mail/web/screen/firewall/dhcp servers
20:09 chris     is it a ram thing?
20:09 chris     ie is it having to swap
20:09 kados     a bit
20:10 kados     Swap:      1024088      31320     992768
20:10 kados     Mem:        183188     141344      41844
20:10 kados     I'm maxed out for this MB on ram
20:10 chris     right
20:10 chris     whats the cpu?
20:10 kados     p1
20:11 chris     ahh, uve probably got it going about as fast as u can then :)
20:11 kados     I can't remember the speed ... slow
20:11 kados     is there some way to put the blosxom.cgi resident in mem?
20:11 chris     the only thing to try would be to try and compile a kernel
20:11 chris     is it perl or python?
20:11 kados     perl
20:12 chris     u could try running it under mod_perl
20:12 kados     right ...
20:14 kados     FWIW, the forthcoming Blosxom 3.0 will run under mod_perl. I'll help Rael to make sure of it.
20:14 kados     http://www.mail-archive.com/advocacy@perl.apache.org/msg00076.html
20:14 chris     :-)
20:14 kados     :-)
20:15 kados     oh well thanks chris
20:15 chris     sorry i couldnt be more help
20:15 kados     getting married pretty soon eh?
20:15 chris     yep, 17 days
20:16 kados     wow
20:17 kados     ooh ... I just got this from the bloglines folks:
20:17 kados     Thanks for the bug report. We're investigating it and hope to have it
20:17 kados     resolved soon.
20:17 chris     cool
11:46 paul      ppl reading this => i can't send mail to koha mailing list. koha.org is ok, but not lists.katipo.co.nz it seems.