Time  Nick      Message
18:50 chris     :-)
18:49 ToyKeeper I'd end up fixing stuff instead of working on what my employer told me to.  :)
18:49 chris     filing a bug at bugs.koha.org is the next best thing :)
18:49 chris     :-)
18:48 ToyKeeper That would probably just give me more reasons to procrastinate.  :)
18:47 chris     ahh nope, but if youre keen, and have a sourceforge account i can give u write access
18:47 chris     whoops wrong window
18:47 ToyKeeper I haven't looked at koha's cvs repo..  is it anon-write?
18:47 chris     geeez
18:46 chris     yep, you could file that as bug .. or better commit a fix to cvs :-)
18:46 ToyKeeper The default should probably use a http moved error though, since w3c recommends avoiding meta refresh.
18:45 chris     or just do the redirect in apache
18:45 ToyKeeper Yup.
18:45 chris     you can make that index.html page anything you want
18:45 chris     only if you want it to
18:45 ToyKeeper Hmm.  I noticed the default front page in koha uses a meta refresh to direct to the correct page.
15:44 ToyKeeper They handle font size with javascript and css.  It does a few other nice things, too.
15:42 ToyKeeper This demonstrates several good ideas:  http://plone.org
15:41 ToyKeeper Yeah, the page could do different stylesheets for different font sizes.
15:41 chris     ta, ill fix that
15:41 ToyKeeper BTW, the changelanguage.pl for maori identifies its mimetype as application/x-perl instead of text/html.
15:40 chris     actually you could do a koha mozilla theme (actually they run firefox i think)
15:39 chris     yay for XUL
15:39 chris     they could, the hlt opacs run mozilla .. but we dont give them access to the menus etc
15:38 ToyKeeper Or they could use mozilla/opera, and change the "zoom".  :)
15:37 chris     i thought it might be good to make one with big fonts for old patrons etc ...
15:37 chris     it sets a cookie and from then on ur served the pages in that look/language
15:36 chris     http://library.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl  see here it has a change to maori button .. that could be extended to change the theme too, not just the language
15:36 ToyKeeper (alternately, some people add a "top" link to the top-left of each page, to skip to the content)
15:36 chris     yep
15:35 ToyKeeper That would allow the main page content to be right at the top when css is turned off, but still be laid out nicely in standard browsers.
15:35 ToyKeeper Hmm.  I see one thing so far I'd change for better accessibility...  using css to lay out the main page sections.
15:32 chris     ta
15:32 owen      http://search.athenscounty.lib.oh.us
15:32 chris     whats NPL's opac owen?
15:32 chris     http://www.library.org.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-main.pl <--hlt theme
15:31 chris     http://library.katipo.co.nz/cgi-bin/koha/opac-search.pl <-- vanilla theme
15:31 chris     thats the default theme ?
15:30 ToyKeeper Just looking briefly at the opac, it seems pretty accessible to text-only browsers already.
15:29 chris     (theme in koha = set of html::templates)
15:28 ToyKeeper It's more of a design pattern than a theme, but I'd imagine it wouldn't be hard to do with koha.
15:27 chris     i think we could do a compliant theme without to much effort
15:26 chris     yeah, we have e-govt guidelines here that are similair to those, with a big section on accessability
15:26 owen      Did you have anything particular in mind?
15:25 ToyKeeper Just curious; it's not very hard to do, but it may be a concern of some libraries.
15:25 ToyKeeper BTW, has anyone given any thought to handicapped accessibility in koha?  ("section 508" stuff, in the US)
15:23 chris     lord knows i should never be allowed to write html :-)
15:22 chris     ill let the html/css/designy ppl at work look at it
15:22 chris     yeah could do
15:22 ToyKeeper Like, set one color randomly with an average brightness of 30% and another with a brightness of 80%, and assign colors to each person evenly between those two.
15:20 ToyKeeper You could just assign colors as part of a random gradient instead.  At least they'd go together, then.
15:16 chris     # with each of r,g, and b being between 80 and ff (ie, at least half bright)
15:16 chris      # which is then transmogrified into an hex colour code,
15:16 chris      # from the first 3 letters, build some kind of pseudorandom checksum
15:15 chris     it randomly picks colours
15:15 ToyKeeper Looks fine to me, but then, I'm looking at it without CSS.
15:04 chris     heh
15:04 owen      Yeah, we need some nicer colors!
15:03 chris     cool, ill get rach to help me tweak the html/interface too
15:03 owen      I guess that's a yes :)
15:03 chris     owen, shall i make it automatically set up saved queries for each day?
15:02 owen      I miss the calendar interface, though
15:02 chris     http://www.koha.org/irc/ should redirect you to it
15:02 owen      http://koha.org/irc
15:02 emiliano  oooh where could I find it?
15:01 owen      Nice new irc log, chris!
14:19 emiliano  in OPAC but I will download from CVS to test if it's uploaded
14:19 emiliano  I wish to ask about some commit
14:19 emiliano  ok
14:16 emiliano  hi owen
14:16 emiliano  Chris, are you on line?
14:16 owen      hi emiliano
14:16 emiliano  Hi everybody
14:08 kados     but that's prolly the only thing we need to do on .60
14:08 kados     and that's why we need to do the z3950 searcehs on .60
14:07 kados     so that's why I had to move our server to .60
14:07 kados     that prevents any yaz stuff from working
14:07 kados     s/big/bug/
14:07 kados     there's a big on 76
14:07 kados     I think the goal is to be able to go out to LOC, and other places and retrieve marc records ... edit them ... and insert them into our catalog
14:07 owen      Then what's on 60 that 76 doesn't have?  What is it Stephen was asking about yesterday?
14:06 kados     the z-server is just for our catalog
14:06 kados     are we trying to do a z3950 search of our catalog ... I thought we were trying to search other catalogs
14:05 owen      Regarding the z3950 server...if it's working now on .60, couldn't we simply point the z3950 search on 76 to 60?
14:05 kados     ok ...
14:04 owen      You mean putting 2.2 on .60?  I don't have any work on .60, so it doesn't make any difference to me.
14:02 kados     do you have any objections to me grabbing the latest cvs (2.2) and trying to get cataloging working with that (or would you rather stick with 2.0)?
14:01 kados     asside from the self-checkout stuff I don't think we're running any koha stuff on .60 at the moment
13:59 kados     or are we going to try the 2.2 stuff (are there any bugs?)
13:58 kados     well for starters I thought I'd update .60's z3950 folder to the latest 2.0 (but that's not in cvs now is it)
13:58 owen      Yeah?  What'd you have in mind?
13:57 kados     so I'm thinking of hacking on the cataloging stuff for a bit
13:56 kados     :-)
13:56 kados     owen around?