Time  Nick                 Message
20:51 M_B                  the large number of LMSs made us wonder where to start
20:49 M_B                  thank you
20:41 caroline             there is a transltation of Koha in Arabic
20:40 M_B                  can anyone answer us??
20:40 M_B                  we want to use koha for our library so we are wondering if it support arabic language
20:38 M_B                  hello
16:58 reiveune             bye
15:09 cait                 sorry I disappeared earlier and maybe you have been right - I need to check later (got to run now)
15:09 cait                 thanks Annelisterman[m]!
15:08 cait                 tcohen++
15:08 lukeg                hi
13:51 aude_c[m]            thanks Anneli!
13:51 Annelisterman[m]     oh, but I need to go now :)
13:50 Annelisterman[m]     and sql request select * from items where barcode='3999900000611' doesn't bring any results
13:48 Annelisterman[m]     I don't see 3999900000611 in that record but there is 39999000006117
13:48 aude_c[m]            It works with 39999000006117
13:47 cait                 http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=146&found1=1
13:47 cait                 no it's complete! :)
13:47 aude_c[m]            That's what I noticed too!
13:47 cait                 no i think hat one exists... i hope?
13:46 Annelisterman[m]     cait, did you copy/paste? Maybe you are just missing the last digit. :)
13:46 aude_c[m]            Dunno. It works very well with 39999000001679 :D
13:45 Annelisterman[m]     cait: i can't find that item, if I search with it, I find this one: 39999000006117
13:45 cait                 lucky me... why? :)
13:45 aude_c[m]            It's the item
13:44 cait                 and is available
13:44 cait                 item exists
13:43 aude_c[m]            oh
13:43 cait                 and that doesn't work in Annelisterman[m] either
13:43 cait                 Annelisterman[m]: is it the item? I am trying with 3999900000611
13:43 aude_c[m]            The first difference I see between cait's set-up one side and Anneli's and mine on the other, is that cait has the same NOT_LOAN value for both  PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn and PreservationNotForLoanWaitingListIn (whereas Anneli and I have different ones). Only the waiting list one is mandatory. Cait I will try clearing the other one on your set-up and see whether that's related
13:42 pastebot             "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: errors I got" (8 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31566
13:41 cait                 giving a presentation on new features tomorrow (in case you wonder why I am all over the place :) )
13:41 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs documenting , Let librarians change item level holds to record level holds when possible
13:41 cait                 While we are on it...  I also have no luck with bug 31692
13:40 Annelisterman[m]     http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/preservation/home.pl
13:40 Annelisterman[m]     cait: try in my sandbox? It works for me.
13:40 cait                 I am in http://staff-demo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/
13:40 aude_c[m]            sure
13:40 cait                 aude_c[m]: could you take a look maybe if you see what's wrong?
13:39 cait                 it's on the sandboxes
13:39 magnuse              thanks cait and Annelisterman[m]
13:39 aude_c[m]            Then I don't know. It worked for me 😅
13:39 cait                 and a batch
13:39 cait                 yes
13:37 aude_c[m]            👍️ Did you create a processing?
13:36 cait                 to the config and to the settings
13:36 cait                 and I added nfl status 4
13:36 cait                 ... and why woudl that not work for me?
13:36 aude_c[m]            I went to Settings first. I added my not for loan status and created a new processing
13:36 cait                 why do I need to add to a waiting list first?
13:36 cait                 I didn't have much time to investigate sadly
13:36 aude_c[m]            cait: I managed to add items to a train that were in a waiting list...
13:31 paulderscheid[m]     Hi cait, I use the qualified_table_name thing, so no.
13:28 aude_c[m]            Also: we know there are inconsistencies in the manual chapter; I'm half-way through fixing them
13:27 aude_c[m]            I assume you already checked the Preservation settings?
13:26 Annelisterman[m]     I just proposed to other Finnish translators that we'd use the same translation to train as to batch. It's a group of items so it is a batch to me. :D
13:23 cait                 and i can't add to waiting list either, but the message flickers so quit i don't even see what it's unhappy about
13:22 cait                 i have used batch
13:19 magnuse              cait: how do you translate train in that context?
13:06 ashimema             So I have no idea what configuration stuff I've missed
13:05 ashimema             Though the screenshot in the manual is very very different to the screen I see when adding items to trains
13:05 tcohen[m]            add to a waiting list, and then close the list, I think
13:04 ashimema             As tcohen said, you must add it to a waiting list first.. though it sounds like your struggling to do that too
13:04 ashimema             I had that issue too cait
12:46 Annelisterman[m]     tcohen: nice, thank you for the info!
12:45 tcohen[m]            Anneli Österman: the translation managet will be looking at the issue 'in a couple hours' (sic)
12:30 tcohen[m]            that's what I learnt when testing the feature
12:30 tcohen[m]            the item needs to be attached to a waiting list first
12:23 cait                 and I can't add anything to the waiting list either?
12:22 cait                 the barcode does exist (of course)
12:22 cait                 why?
12:22 cait                 and I always get the barcode doesn#t exist message
12:22 cait                 maybe someone knows: I am trying toa dd an item to a train
11:42 tcohen[m]            it is not intended
11:42 tcohen[m]            A sync command failed to fetch changes from Git
11:42 Annelisterman[m]     ok, thanks!
11:35 cait                 I'll send him an email
11:35 cait                 I sent Joubu a PM here yesterday, but I think he is not around Mondays
11:30 Annelisterman[m]     All translations are locked in Weblate and there are two alerts (master's staff-prog for example): https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/koha/master/staff-prog/#alerts Is this intentional or is there actually a problem?
11:00 cait                 hi puphaus[m] :)
10:57 puphaus[m]           s/togehter/together/
10:57 puphaus[m]           good morning togehter :)
10:56 cait                 good morning
10:49 tcohen[m]            morning
10:43 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
10:40 ashimema             morning
10:39 krimsonkharne[m]     morning #koha
09:52 ashimema             now it has 🙂
09:51 ashimema             no, seems not
09:51 ashimema             has 23.11 been branched yet?
09:51 ashimema             and get the plugin, at least the original, updated to spot such a change and use it
09:50 cait                 makes sense
09:50 ashimema             but I want to make sure I get the rename rigfht
09:50 ashimema             yes
09:50 cait                 Koha core shoud/must win - but we don't want them to lose tdata
09:50 cait                 and leave a note int he issues trackers about that
09:50 cait                 we could rename the table and output that they need to install a newer version of the plugin maybe?
09:39 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Core bookings and room reservations plugin tables clash
09:39 ashimema             bug 35473
09:33 ashimema             https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-room-reservations/issues/57
09:31 ashimema             it's not going to be a quick fix though ☹️
09:31 ashimema             I think the two of us need to work together here.. update the bookings plugin (the original one at least) and then also add some core changes to detect and move the table
09:30 ashimema             I'll talke to kyle about the core one at least
09:27 ashimema             the key question though.. if we do that here, it sets a precedent for core to try and be aware of every plugin everywhere
09:26 cait                 paulderscheid[m]: does your room reservations use a bookings table?
09:26 ashimema             I'll have a little think today.. we could perhaps look at methods that exist
09:26 cait                 I think there are different forks around of this specific plugin
09:26 ashimema             yup
09:26 ashimema             not easily
09:26 matts                The plugin should use get_qualified_table_name in RoomReservations.pm
09:26 cait                 i guess we cannot just kick out the other table as it might have data
09:25 cait                 ashimema: can we check for the plugin somehow and put a note at least?
09:25 cait                 but a comment is still a good start
09:25 cait                 once something is released we always need a new bug for a fix
09:25 gveranis             a ok
09:25 cait                 we wil need one in order to provide any fix
09:25 cait                 gveranis: usually better to make a new bug and link them
09:24 huginn`              04Bug 29002: new feature, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs documenting , Add ability to book items ahead of time
09:24 gveranis             ok I add a comment here : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29002 to report it
09:24 cait                 yeah
09:18 ashimema             I see it's clearly not here ☹️
09:18 ashimema             ack, ok
09:18 ashimema             always
09:18 ashimema             plugin tables are meant to be prefixed
09:17 cait                 gveranis++
08:58 gveranis             ok , fixed, that was the problem
08:56 gveranis             I suppose I have to run the fix manually
08:55 gveranis             yes I will reported
08:55 cait                 good detective work
08:55 cait                 are you ok fixing it on your own?
08:55 cait                 yes, that makes sense
08:55 gveranis             checks only if table exists
08:55 gveranis             during the upgrade I din't get an error  because https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/0e6d576d70630ba2812ae02461be166ceb5d451f/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/230600061.pl#L13 here
08:55 cait                 it's a bit bad that the plugin didn't use a table with a prefix
08:55 cait                 room reservations might be used widely enough to have that happen more often
08:54 cait                 woudl you report this please?
08:54 cait                 or no, the check failed
08:54 cait                 ah, you had an error
08:54 gveranis             because the table was there but from the plugin..
08:54 cait                 why does it not run?
08:54 gveranis             and during the upgrade the 230600061.pl doesn't run
08:53 gveranis             oh I think the problem cause by plugin https://github.com/ldjamison/koha-plugin-room-reservations which have a table bookings also
08:50 gveranis             I restart everything
08:49 gveranis             23.11
08:48 cait                 gveranis: which version are you on?
08:48 cait                 or you need to restart all the things
08:48 cait                 it sounds like your schema update didn't work
08:37 gveranis             I look at Koha/Schema/ to some files but didn't find something, seems to be ok there.
08:36 gveranis             Hi , i would like to ask if someone can guide me where to lookup for this error "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.booking_id' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 317"
08:27 ashimema             it's snowing properly on the dashboard now 🙂
08:08 cait1                good morning all
08:04 davidnind            thanks ashimema!
08:03 matts                hi!
07:39 reiveune             hello
06:48 ashimema             I had some permissions issues the first time I tried but Joubu patched it.. however I think there might still be a few permissions caveats at play.. I couldn't get it all working in another system yet.
06:47 ashimema             In ktd the new languages repo is pulled as part of startup and the test should just work the way it used to...
04:52 dcook                Yeah surely they should be online soon
04:51 davidnind            hopefully Joubu or someone else can let us know how it should now work
04:51 davidnind            gulp po:update doesn't work for me, neither does misc/translator/translate or koha-translate package commands
04:50 davidnind            that's useful, but it seems something is not working as it should for me
04:44 dcook                According to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_files it should just work...
04:43 dcook                davidnind: I'm pretty curious how the translations are going to work in this koha-l10n world as well
04:41 davidnind            I think this page needs updating with the ways that work: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
04:39 davidnind            /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:39 davidnind            /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:39 davidnind            perl misc/translator/translate install fr-FR
04:39 davidnind            What is the recommended way to install languages when using KTD?