Time  Nick                 Message
04:39 davidnind            What is the recommended way to install languages when using KTD?
04:39 davidnind            perl misc/translator/translate install fr-FR
04:39 davidnind            /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:39 davidnind            /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory
04:41 davidnind            I think this page needs updating with the ways that work: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client
04:43 dcook                davidnind: I'm pretty curious how the translations are going to work in this koha-l10n world as well
04:44 dcook                According to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_files it should just work...
04:50 davidnind            that's useful, but it seems something is not working as it should for me
04:51 davidnind            gulp po:update doesn't work for me, neither does misc/translator/translate or koha-translate package commands
04:51 davidnind            hopefully Joubu or someone else can let us know how it should now work
04:52 dcook                Yeah surely they should be online soon
06:47 ashimema             In ktd the new languages repo is pulled as part of startup and the test should just work the way it used to...
06:48 ashimema             I had some permissions issues the first time I tried but Joubu patched it.. however I think there might still be a few permissions caveats at play.. I couldn't get it all working in another system yet.
07:39 reiveune             hello
08:03 matts                hi!
08:04 davidnind            thanks ashimema!
08:08 cait1                good morning all
08:27 ashimema             it's snowing properly on the dashboard now 🙂
08:36 gveranis             Hi , i would like to ask if someone can guide me where to lookup for this error "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.booking_id' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 317"
08:37 gveranis             I look at Koha/Schema/ to some files but didn't find something, seems to be ok there.
08:48 cait                 it sounds like your schema update didn't work
08:48 cait                 or you need to restart all the things
08:48 cait                 gveranis: which version are you on?
08:49 gveranis             23.11
08:50 gveranis             I restart everything
08:53 gveranis             oh I think the problem cause by plugin https://github.com/ldjamison/koha-plugin-room-reservations which have a table bookings also
08:54 gveranis             and during the upgrade the 230600061.pl doesn't run
08:54 cait                 why does it not run?
08:54 gveranis             because the table was there but from the plugin..
08:54 cait                 ah, you had an error
08:54 cait                 or no, the check failed
08:54 cait                 woudl you report this please?
08:55 cait                 room reservations might be used widely enough to have that happen more often
08:55 cait                 it's a bit bad that the plugin didn't use a table with a prefix
08:55 gveranis             during the upgrade I din't get an error  because https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/0e6d576d70630ba2812ae02461be166ceb5d451f/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/230600061.pl#L13 here
08:55 gveranis             checks only if table exists
08:55 cait                 yes, that makes sense
08:55 cait                 are you ok fixing it on your own?
08:55 cait                 good detective work
08:55 gveranis             yes I will reported
08:56 gveranis             I suppose I have to run the fix manually
08:58 gveranis             ok , fixed, that was the problem
09:17 cait                 gveranis++
09:18 ashimema             plugin tables are meant to be prefixed
09:18 ashimema             always
09:18 ashimema             ack, ok
09:18 ashimema             I see it's clearly not here ☹️
09:24 cait                 yeah
09:24 gveranis             ok I add a comment here : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29002 to report it
09:24 huginn`              04Bug 29002: new feature, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs documenting , Add ability to book items ahead of time
09:25 cait                 gveranis: usually better to make a new bug and link them
09:25 cait                 we wil need one in order to provide any fix
09:25 gveranis             a ok
09:25 cait                 once something is released we always need a new bug for a fix
09:25 cait                 but a comment is still a good start
09:25 cait                 ashimema: can we check for the plugin somehow and put a note at least?
09:26 cait                 i guess we cannot just kick out the other table as it might have data
09:26 matts                The plugin should use get_qualified_table_name in RoomReservations.pm
09:26 ashimema             not easily
09:26 ashimema             yup
09:26 cait                 I think there are different forks around of this specific plugin
09:26 ashimema             I'll have a little think today.. we could perhaps look at methods that exist
09:26 cait                 paulderscheid[m]: does your room reservations use a bookings table?
09:27 ashimema             the key question though.. if we do that here, it sets a precedent for core to try and be aware of every plugin everywhere
09:30 ashimema             I'll talke to kyle about the core one at least
09:31 ashimema             I think the two of us need to work together here.. update the bookings plugin (the original one at least) and then also add some core changes to detect and move the table
09:31 ashimema             it's not going to be a quick fix though ☹️
09:33 ashimema             https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-room-reservations/issues/57
09:39 ashimema             bug 35473
09:39 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Core bookings and room reservations plugin tables clash
09:50 cait                 we could rename the table and output that they need to install a newer version of the plugin maybe?
09:50 cait                 and leave a note int he issues trackers about that
09:50 cait                 Koha core shoud/must win - but we don't want them to lose tdata
09:50 ashimema             yes
09:50 ashimema             but I want to make sure I get the rename rigfht
09:50 cait                 makes sense
09:51 ashimema             and get the plugin, at least the original, updated to spot such a change and use it
09:51 ashimema             has 23.11 been branched yet?
09:51 ashimema             no, seems not
09:52 ashimema             now it has 🙂
10:39 krimsonkharne[m]     morning #koha
10:40 ashimema             morning
10:43 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/
10:49 tcohen[m]            morning
10:56 cait                 good morning
10:57 puphaus[m]           good morning togehter :)
10:57 puphaus[m]           s/togehter/together/
11:00 cait                 hi puphaus[m] :)
11:30 Annelisterman[m]     All translations are locked in Weblate and there are two alerts (master's staff-prog for example): https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/koha/master/staff-prog/#alerts Is this intentional or is there actually a problem?
11:35 cait                 I sent Joubu a PM here yesterday, but I think he is not around Mondays
11:35 cait                 I'll send him an email
11:42 Annelisterman[m]     ok, thanks!
11:42 tcohen[m]            A sync command failed to fetch changes from Git
11:42 tcohen[m]            it is not intended
12:22 cait                 maybe someone knows: I am trying toa dd an item to a train
12:22 cait                 and I always get the barcode doesn#t exist message
12:22 cait                 why?
12:22 cait                 the barcode does exist (of course)
12:23 cait                 and I can't add anything to the waiting list either?
12:30 tcohen[m]            the item needs to be attached to a waiting list first
12:30 tcohen[m]            that's what I learnt when testing the feature
12:45 tcohen[m]            Anneli Österman: the translation managet will be looking at the issue 'in a couple hours' (sic)
12:46 Annelisterman[m]     tcohen: nice, thank you for the info!
13:04 ashimema             I had that issue too cait
13:04 ashimema             As tcohen said, you must add it to a waiting list first.. though it sounds like your struggling to do that too
13:05 tcohen[m]            add to a waiting list, and then close the list, I think
13:05 ashimema             Though the screenshot in the manual is very very different to the screen I see when adding items to trains
13:06 ashimema             So I have no idea what configuration stuff I've missed
13:19 magnuse              cait: how do you translate train in that context?
13:22 cait                 i have used batch
13:23 cait                 and i can't add to waiting list either, but the message flickers so quit i don't even see what it's unhappy about
13:26 Annelisterman[m]     I just proposed to other Finnish translators that we'd use the same translation to train as to batch. It's a group of items so it is a batch to me. :D
13:27 aude_c[m]            I assume you already checked the Preservation settings?
13:28 aude_c[m]            Also: we know there are inconsistencies in the manual chapter; I'm half-way through fixing them
13:31 paulderscheid[m]     Hi cait, I use the qualified_table_name thing, so no.
13:36 aude_c[m]            cait: I managed to add items to a train that were in a waiting list...
13:36 cait                 I didn't have much time to investigate sadly
13:36 cait                 why do I need to add to a waiting list first?
13:36 aude_c[m]            I went to Settings first. I added my not for loan status and created a new processing
13:36 cait                 ... and why woudl that not work for me?
13:36 cait                 and I added nfl status 4
13:36 cait                 to the config and to the settings
13:37 aude_c[m]            👍️ Did you create a processing?
13:39 cait                 yes
13:39 cait                 and a batch
13:39 aude_c[m]            Then I don't know. It worked for me 😅
13:39 magnuse              thanks cait and Annelisterman[m]
13:39 cait                 it's on the sandboxes
13:40 cait                 aude_c[m]: could you take a look maybe if you see what's wrong?
13:40 aude_c[m]            sure
13:40 cait                 I am in http://staff-demo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/
13:40 Annelisterman[m]     cait: try in my sandbox? It works for me.
13:40 Annelisterman[m]     http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/preservation/home.pl
13:41 cait                 While we are on it...  I also have no luck with bug 31692
13:41 huginn`              04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs documenting , Let librarians change item level holds to record level holds when possible
13:41 cait                 giving a presentation on new features tomorrow (in case you wonder why I am all over the place :) )
13:42 pastebot             "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: errors I got" (8 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31566
13:43 aude_c[m]            The first difference I see between cait's set-up one side and Anneli's and mine on the other, is that cait has the same NOT_LOAN value for both  PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn and PreservationNotForLoanWaitingListIn (whereas Anneli and I have different ones). Only the waiting list one is mandatory. Cait I will try clearing the other one on your set-up and see whether that's related
13:43 cait                 Annelisterman[m]: is it the item? I am trying with 3999900000611
13:43 cait                 and that doesn't work in Annelisterman[m] either
13:43 aude_c[m]            oh
13:44 cait                 item exists
13:44 cait                 and is available
13:45 aude_c[m]            It's the item
13:45 cait                 lucky me... why? :)
13:45 Annelisterman[m]     cait: i can't find that item, if I search with it, I find this one: 39999000006117
13:46 aude_c[m]            Dunno. It works very well with 39999000001679 :D
13:46 Annelisterman[m]     cait, did you copy/paste? Maybe you are just missing the last digit. :)
13:47 cait                 no i think hat one exists... i hope?
13:47 aude_c[m]            That's what I noticed too!
13:47 cait                 no it's complete! :)
13:47 cait                 http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=146&found1=1
13:48 aude_c[m]            It works with 39999000006117
13:48 Annelisterman[m]     I don't see 3999900000611 in that record but there is 39999000006117
13:50 Annelisterman[m]     and sql request select * from items where barcode='3999900000611' doesn't bring any results
13:51 Annelisterman[m]     oh, but I need to go now :)
13:51 aude_c[m]            thanks Anneli!
15:08 lukeg                hi
15:08 cait                 tcohen++
15:09 cait                 thanks Annelisterman[m]!
15:09 cait                 sorry I disappeared earlier and maybe you have been right - I need to check later (got to run now)
16:58 reiveune             bye
20:38 M_B                  hello
20:40 M_B                  we want to use koha for our library so we are wondering if it support arabic language
20:40 M_B                  can anyone answer us??
20:41 caroline             there is a transltation of Koha in Arabic
20:49 M_B                  thank you
20:51 M_B                  the large number of LMSs made us wonder where to start