Time Nick Message 04:39 davidnind What is the recommended way to install languages when using KTD? 04:39 davidnind perl misc/translator/translate install fr-FR 04:39 davidnind /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory 04:39 davidnind /kohadevbox/koha/misc/translator/po/fr-FR-marc-UNIMARC.po: No such file or directory 04:41 davidnind I think this page needs updating with the ways that work: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Installation_of_additional_languages_for_OPAC_and_INTRANET_staff_client 04:43 dcook davidnind: I'm pretty curious how the translations are going to work in this koha-l10n world as well 04:44 dcook According to https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/Translation_files it should just work... 04:50 davidnind that's useful, but it seems something is not working as it should for me 04:51 davidnind gulp po:update doesn't work for me, neither does misc/translator/translate or koha-translate package commands 04:51 davidnind hopefully Joubu or someone else can let us know how it should now work 04:52 dcook Yeah surely they should be online soon 06:47 ashimema In ktd the new languages repo is pulled as part of startup and the test should just work the way it used to... 06:48 ashimema I had some permissions issues the first time I tried but Joubu patched it.. however I think there might still be a few permissions caveats at play.. I couldn't get it all working in another system yet. 07:39 reiveune hello 08:03 matts hi! 08:04 davidnind thanks ashimema! 08:08 cait1 good morning all 08:27 ashimema it's snowing properly on the dashboard now 🙂 08:36 gveranis Hi , i would like to ask if someone can guide me where to lookup for this error "DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): DBI Exception: DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.booking_id' in 'field list' at /usr/share/koha/lib/Koha/Objects.pm line 317" 08:37 gveranis I look at Koha/Schema/ to some files but didn't find something, seems to be ok there. 08:48 cait it sounds like your schema update didn't work 08:48 cait or you need to restart all the things 08:48 cait gveranis: which version are you on? 08:49 gveranis 23.11 08:50 gveranis I restart everything 08:53 gveranis oh I think the problem cause by plugin https://github.com/ldjamison/koha-plugin-room-reservations which have a table bookings also 08:54 gveranis and during the upgrade the 230600061.pl doesn't run 08:54 cait why does it not run? 08:54 gveranis because the table was there but from the plugin.. 08:54 cait ah, you had an error 08:54 cait or no, the check failed 08:54 cait woudl you report this please? 08:55 cait room reservations might be used widely enough to have that happen more often 08:55 cait it's a bit bad that the plugin didn't use a table with a prefix 08:55 gveranis during the upgrade I din't get an error because https://github.com/Koha-Community/Koha/blob/0e6d576d70630ba2812ae02461be166ceb5d451f/installer/data/mysql/db_revs/230600061.pl#L13 here 08:55 gveranis checks only if table exists 08:55 cait yes, that makes sense 08:55 cait are you ok fixing it on your own? 08:55 cait good detective work 08:55 gveranis yes I will reported 08:56 gveranis I suppose I have to run the fix manually 08:58 gveranis ok , fixed, that was the problem 09:17 cait gveranis++ 09:18 ashimema plugin tables are meant to be prefixed 09:18 ashimema always 09:18 ashimema ack, ok 09:18 ashimema I see it's clearly not here ☹️ 09:24 cait yeah 09:24 gveranis ok I add a comment here : https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29002 to report it 09:24 huginn` 04Bug 29002: new feature, P1 - high, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs documenting , Add ability to book items ahead of time 09:25 cait gveranis: usually better to make a new bug and link them 09:25 cait we wil need one in order to provide any fix 09:25 gveranis a ok 09:25 cait once something is released we always need a new bug for a fix 09:25 cait but a comment is still a good start 09:25 cait ashimema: can we check for the plugin somehow and put a note at least? 09:26 cait i guess we cannot just kick out the other table as it might have data 09:26 matts The plugin should use get_qualified_table_name in RoomReservations.pm 09:26 ashimema not easily 09:26 ashimema yup 09:26 cait I think there are different forks around of this specific plugin 09:26 ashimema I'll have a little think today.. we could perhaps look at methods that exist 09:26 cait paulderscheid[m]: does your room reservations use a bookings table? 09:27 ashimema the key question though.. if we do that here, it sets a precedent for core to try and be aware of every plugin everywhere 09:30 ashimema I'll talke to kyle about the core one at least 09:31 ashimema I think the two of us need to work together here.. update the bookings plugin (the original one at least) and then also add some core changes to detect and move the table 09:31 ashimema it's not going to be a quick fix though ☹️ 09:33 ashimema https://github.com/bywatersolutions/koha-plugin-room-reservations/issues/57 09:39 ashimema bug 35473 09:39 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=35473 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Core bookings and room reservations plugin tables clash 09:50 cait we could rename the table and output that they need to install a newer version of the plugin maybe? 09:50 cait and leave a note int he issues trackers about that 09:50 cait Koha core shoud/must win - but we don't want them to lose tdata 09:50 ashimema yes 09:50 ashimema but I want to make sure I get the rename rigfht 09:50 cait makes sense 09:51 ashimema and get the plugin, at least the original, updated to spot such a change and use it 09:51 ashimema has 23.11 been branched yet? 09:51 ashimema no, seems not 09:52 ashimema now it has 🙂 10:39 krimsonkharne[m] morning #koha 10:40 ashimema morning 10:43 MatthewBlenkinsop[m] o/ 10:49 tcohen[m] morning 10:56 cait good morning 10:57 puphaus[m] good morning togehter :) 10:57 puphaus[m] s/togehter/together/ 11:00 cait hi puphaus[m] :) 11:30 Annelisterman[m] All translations are locked in Weblate and there are two alerts (master's staff-prog for example): https://translate.koha-community.org/projects/koha/master/staff-prog/#alerts Is this intentional or is there actually a problem? 11:35 cait I sent Joubu a PM here yesterday, but I think he is not around Mondays 11:35 cait I'll send him an email 11:42 Annelisterman[m] ok, thanks! 11:42 tcohen[m] A sync command failed to fetch changes from Git 11:42 tcohen[m] it is not intended 12:22 cait maybe someone knows: I am trying toa dd an item to a train 12:22 cait and I always get the barcode doesn#t exist message 12:22 cait why? 12:22 cait the barcode does exist (of course) 12:23 cait and I can't add anything to the waiting list either? 12:30 tcohen[m] the item needs to be attached to a waiting list first 12:30 tcohen[m] that's what I learnt when testing the feature 12:45 tcohen[m] Anneli Österman: the translation managet will be looking at the issue 'in a couple hours' (sic) 12:46 Annelisterman[m] tcohen: nice, thank you for the info! 13:04 ashimema I had that issue too cait 13:04 ashimema As tcohen said, you must add it to a waiting list first.. though it sounds like your struggling to do that too 13:05 tcohen[m] add to a waiting list, and then close the list, I think 13:05 ashimema Though the screenshot in the manual is very very different to the screen I see when adding items to trains 13:06 ashimema So I have no idea what configuration stuff I've missed 13:19 magnuse cait: how do you translate train in that context? 13:22 cait i have used batch 13:23 cait and i can't add to waiting list either, but the message flickers so quit i don't even see what it's unhappy about 13:26 Annelisterman[m] I just proposed to other Finnish translators that we'd use the same translation to train as to batch. It's a group of items so it is a batch to me. :D 13:27 aude_c[m] I assume you already checked the Preservation settings? 13:28 aude_c[m] Also: we know there are inconsistencies in the manual chapter; I'm half-way through fixing them 13:31 paulderscheid[m] Hi cait, I use the qualified_table_name thing, so no. 13:36 aude_c[m] cait: I managed to add items to a train that were in a waiting list... 13:36 cait I didn't have much time to investigate sadly 13:36 cait why do I need to add to a waiting list first? 13:36 aude_c[m] I went to Settings first. I added my not for loan status and created a new processing 13:36 cait ... and why woudl that not work for me? 13:36 cait and I added nfl status 4 13:36 cait to the config and to the settings 13:37 aude_c[m] 👍️ Did you create a processing? 13:39 cait yes 13:39 cait and a batch 13:39 aude_c[m] Then I don't know. It worked for me 😅 13:39 magnuse thanks cait and Annelisterman[m] 13:39 cait it's on the sandboxes 13:40 cait aude_c[m]: could you take a look maybe if you see what's wrong? 13:40 aude_c[m] sure 13:40 cait I am in http://staff-demo.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/ 13:40 Annelisterman[m] cait: try in my sandbox? It works for me. 13:40 Annelisterman[m] http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/preservation/home.pl 13:41 cait While we are on it... I also have no luck with bug 31692 13:41 huginn` 04Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31692 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, lari.taskula, Needs documenting , Let librarians change item level holds to record level holds when possible 13:41 cait giving a presentation on new features tomorrow (in case you wonder why I am all over the place :) ) 13:42 pastebot "tcohen" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Joubu: errors I got" (8 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/31566 13:43 aude_c[m] The first difference I see between cait's set-up one side and Anneli's and mine on the other, is that cait has the same NOT_LOAN value for both PreservationNotForLoanDefaultTrainIn and PreservationNotForLoanWaitingListIn (whereas Anneli and I have different ones). Only the waiting list one is mandatory. Cait I will try clearing the other one on your set-up and see whether that's related 13:43 cait Annelisterman[m]: is it the item? I am trying with 3999900000611 13:43 cait and that doesn't work in Annelisterman[m] either 13:43 aude_c[m] oh 13:44 cait item exists 13:44 cait and is available 13:45 aude_c[m] It's the item 13:45 cait lucky me... why? :) 13:45 Annelisterman[m] cait: i can't find that item, if I search with it, I find this one: 39999000006117 13:46 aude_c[m] Dunno. It works very well with 39999000001679 :D 13:46 Annelisterman[m] cait, did you copy/paste? Maybe you are just missing the last digit. :) 13:47 cait no i think hat one exists... i hope? 13:47 aude_c[m] That's what I noticed too! 13:47 cait no it's complete! :) 13:47 cait http://staff-translate1.sandboxes.ptfs-europe.co.uk/cgi-bin/koha/catalogue/detail.pl?biblionumber=146&found1=1 13:48 aude_c[m] It works with 39999000006117 13:48 Annelisterman[m] I don't see 3999900000611 in that record but there is 39999000006117 13:50 Annelisterman[m] and sql request select * from items where barcode='3999900000611' doesn't bring any results 13:51 Annelisterman[m] oh, but I need to go now :) 13:51 aude_c[m] thanks Anneli! 15:08 lukeg hi 15:08 cait tcohen++ 15:09 cait thanks Annelisterman[m]! 15:09 cait sorry I disappeared earlier and maybe you have been right - I need to check later (got to run now) 16:58 reiveune bye 20:38 M_B hello 20:40 M_B we want to use koha for our library so we are wondering if it support arabic language 20:40 M_B can anyone answer us?? 20:41 caroline there is a transltation of Koha in Arabic 20:49 M_B thank you 20:51 M_B the large number of LMSs made us wonder where to start