Time Nick Message 22:44 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31694 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , MARC overlay rules presets don't change anything if presets are translated 22:44 cait caroline: i gave your bug 31694 a go - maybe you could have a look? 22:43 davidnind[m] the GitLab clone of Koha has the commits in the "correct" order I think... 22:42 ashimema great day of fixing, testing and pushing.. lots of little fixes and tweaks today. 22:42 ashimema see ya #koha 🙂 22:42 ashimema and I think it's time for bed for me 22:41 davidnind[m] thd++ 21:53 ashimema weird 21:53 ashimema oh.. i see 21:53 cait only 9 more changes... to 500 21:52 ashimema what are you talking about git order? 21:52 cait hey stranger :) 21:52 ashimema evening 21:50 cait lukeg: thx :) spotted it, but didn't get to it yet 21:42 cait those have bugged me for a while too, thx for writing up test plans :) 21:21 caroline cait++ :D 21:19 cait thx caroline++ 21:18 cait yeah, i think so, but it's really not helpful like that 21:18 tuxayo cait «hm the sorting in the git repository is really odd» Because of the dates? That the original author date of the commit. Not the date they have been QAed or pushed to master. 20:17 cait awesome :) 20:14 lukeg I'm someone, I'm around :) 19:50 cait someone still around? :) 18:19 cait glitter. 18:19 cait lots of soap and foam and stuff 18:18 ashimema lol 18:17 cait this is just polishing 18:17 cait nah 18:17 tcohen haha 18:17 tcohen should I stop pushing things? the release is scary already 18:12 * cait runs behind lukeg :) 18:06 cait ::) 18:05 cait it's true! 18:04 ashimema haha 18:03 * cait feels like QA team needs a theme song 17:53 cait hm the sorting in the git repository is really odd: https://git.koha-community.org/Koha-community/Koha/commits/branch/master 17:43 cait i am back now too, just need some fresh tea maybe 17:43 tcohen there are bugs that require 'reindex all the things', for instance 17:42 tcohen didn't we have a technical_notes thing? 17:40 * ashimema has just finished tea and will turn laptop back in shortly 17:39 ashimema What keyword do you want tcohen? 17:37 fridolin hi there 17:36 tcohen ashimema, cait, Joubu 17:36 tcohen who can add keywords to bz? 17:29 tcohen DBRev... 70 17:29 tcohen wow 17:06 cait oleonard++ 16:47 cait1 ... ok, will ponder this on my own some more :) 16:46 cait1 but the save button applies to both 16:46 cait1 aah, bad tming 16:46 cait1 the problem is... i feel like it woudl be nice to have the additional fields a bit separate, as they come with their own heading 16:46 * oleonard off to a meeting 16:46 cait1 hm ok 16:46 oleonard cait1: Nesting fieldsets is sometimes the correct thing to do, so our CSS should accommodate it. 16:45 cait1 oleonard: shoudl we have fieldsets within field sets? 16:40 cait1 I'll finish my bug and then switch computers to send 16:32 tuxayo https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/job/Koha_Master_D11_SEL/100/consoleText 16:32 tuxayo https://jenkins.koha-community.org/view/master/job/Koha_Master/2234/consoleText 16:32 tuxayo It seems to be these builds 16:29 cait1 or you could email them - might work better :) 16:29 cait1 are there specific ones? i could send a follow-up to qA mail later 16:23 tcohen I could use some help fixing the selenium tests 16:22 cait1 oleonard++ thx :) 16:22 tcohen :-D 16:21 oleonard I like to be kept busy 16:21 cait1 i am (almost) sorry for filing so many bugs today 16:16 cait1 if you have ideas about this, I am all ears :) 16:16 cait1 print only the new entries or automate printing 16:15 cait1 tcohen: background to this was working on a solution for printing 16:15 cait1 there is no PK i guess 16:15 cait1 tcohen: i think timestamp would make most sense to me, unless it#s always a created_on? 16:14 cait1 sorry, had a phone call interrupt, reading now 16:14 oleonard Not that I know of, unless you have patches in the queue that touch that page specifically 16:13 tcohen oleonard: would 31879 conflict with other staff revamp patches? 16:12 ashimema we need to get the style guide written first really 16:12 ashimema pass.. 16:10 tcohen ashimema: should we think of a qa test for the page-section class? 16:07 tcohen before that, all table was wiped 16:07 tcohen i.e. the queue for the biblio is rebuilt 16:07 tcohen it is rebuilt per-biblio 16:06 cait1 tcohen: but it's nto rebuilt if you sue Real time, isn't it? 16:02 tcohen the queue is actually rebuilt so... 16:02 tcohen heh 16:02 tcohen question about tmp_holdsqueue, should it be timestamp, created_on, updated_on? 16:02 tcohen thanks 16:02 ashimema hugs tcohen.. you're doing awesome 16:01 ashimema hehe 16:01 tcohen cait1: I cannot push faster, sorry 15:59 tuxayo cait1: Ah yes every support organization can relay this to librarians they know might be keen to getting there hands dirty. 15:55 tuxayo cait++ 15:55 cait1 tuxayo: I'll advertise if I see a chance to 15:46 cait1 oh 15:45 tuxayo cait1: «did you get some replies from the koha-de mail?» Nothing via email and no new responder to the poll. 15:42 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31917 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Signed Off , Headings don't seem quite right for system preference search 15:42 cait1 bug 31917 15:42 cait1 I am not sure about this one, woud love another opinion: 31917 15:36 oleonard I wish the redesign hadn't touched styling of forms because I think forms needed a more focused overhaul. 15:35 oleonard lukeg: Are you aware of patron search issues in 22.05.05? I don't know what's in your queue for .06. 15:35 ashimema i.e we have 'row' from bootstrap and then 'rows' as another class of our own.. 15:34 ashimema the 'rows' thing is really weird and confusing 15:34 ashimema not the only place though.. 15:34 ashimema there is certainly some funk on the libraries page.. 15:34 cait1 it does work ok on other pages, so the "library view" stood out negatively 15:33 ashimema okies 15:33 cait1 Added my CSS change to the bug 15:32 ashimema we're hugely inconsistent again 15:32 * ashimema added a bunch of questions about toolbars to our style guide start 15:32 cait1 the grey really looks not like something to click 15:32 cait1 I am still vey much in favor of making them proper link colored or so 15:32 cait1 yes 15:31 ashimema there is still a bug open to improve those toolbars.. 15:31 cait1 I needed to up the contrast to see table stripings and such 15:31 ashimema I see cait1 15:31 ashimema lol 15:31 cait1 so they appear in grey 15:31 * ashimema steps away from that one and leaves it in more expert hands 15:31 cait1 ashimema: my toolsbars have... because of my bad screen I added a darker background color 15:29 ashimema it's confusing 15:29 ashimema but I can't add it to the col-X div's here either because there's a nested 'rows' div inside which makes things go really weird and screwy in other ways 15:29 ashimema there is also an issue with adding 'page-section' to a 'row' div 15:28 oleonard If you hover your mouse over the "New library" button you can see it. 15:28 oleonard The problem is that toolbar buttons still have padding like they are styled as buttons with borders, so it doesn't *look* like they're left-aligned with the page content but they are. 15:25 ashimema that page was a bugger to style though... we have some interesting 'rows' class thing that gets it' all confused 15:25 ashimema the toolbars have no background yet so I can't see how they look mis-aligned 15:25 ashimema not sure what you mean by 'aligned with toolbar above' though.. 15:24 ashimema right 15:24 ashimema the section goes all the way to the ight 15:24 ashimema ah.. I see 15:23 ashimema lol 15:23 cait1 tcohen: we need you to push faster heh :) 15:22 cait1 ah ok 15:22 ashimema aha.. so it's no in master.. it's PQA 15:22 cait1 hm found another: empty system preference search breaks layout 15:21 cait1 i made it depends on your bug 15:21 ashimema I just pulled and can't see this mornings work.. is it in master nwo 15:21 ashimema in fact.. I'm confused.. 15:21 ashimema ho.. I only worked on that this morning 15:18 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31950 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Page section on library view is too wide / not aligned with toolbar 15:18 cait1 ashimema: oleonard: maybe one of you for bug 31950? might be a follow up to 31939 but filed separately 15:15 ashimema Lol 15:08 tuxayo *they 15:08 tuxayo yes, there did 15:08 tuxayo tcohen: ok, looking at it. Note, liliputech already released 21.11.x I think 15:08 cait1 now that we have the white everywhere... our start pages look odd to me with the grey background 15:03 reiveune bye 15:03 cait1 hola tcohen :) 14:59 ashimema woop, woop.. lots of pushes again 🙂 14:59 tcohen there's a security bug 14:58 lukeg 22.05.06 is incoming today 14:58 tcohen hey, can the last one remove the additional_work_needed whe nwe close things? e.g. 29325 14:58 lukeg Hi tcohen 14:57 wahanui rmaints are lukeg, liliputech and tuxayo 14:57 tcohen rmaints? 14:57 tcohen rmaints 14:57 tcohen hola cait1 14:50 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31948 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Add timestamp to tmp_holdsqueue 14:50 cait1 and filed bug 31948 14:48 ashimema good good 14:48 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=29346 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, RESOLVED FIXED, Real-time holds queue update 14:48 ashimema bug 29346 14:48 cait1 yeah, but reading through 29346 already helps to get a clearer idea 14:47 ashimema tcohen is likely your man for that cait1 14:46 ashimema big scary job 14:46 ashimema for both templates and controllers.. 14:46 ashimema and then fixing up all the links 14:46 ashimema that entails moving cataloguing to cataloging and then moving all the bits out of tools and labels as appropriate 14:46 cait1 (holdsqueue) 14:46 cait1 found the bug 14:46 ashimema fixing the urls 14:46 ashimema the scary one is still left to go 14:42 cait1 opposed to the old 'cronjob way' of things 14:42 cait1 is someone close to the recent holds_queue updates? i think we do more on the fly now... but not quite sure yet what we do exactly 14:41 cait1 jajm: around? 14:41 cait1 lukeg++ 14:38 lukeg OK, good to know! 14:38 ashimema I'm working on the titles now btw 14:38 ashimema thanks 14:38 ashimema you did a great job finishing up where I failed 14:38 ashimema no worries at all 14:38 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31556 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, RESOLVED DUPLICATE, Correct breadcrumb for Cataloging module 14:38 lukeg ashimema: Sorry, I never saw your patches on Bug 31556 14:35 lukeg hi 14:31 cait1 I didn't see there was another patch 14:29 ashimema which is fine 14:29 ashimema I see.. he finished the job.. well... did it all without using my original 14:29 ashimema ho.. Lucas took it over.. 14:25 cait1 maybe I only signed? but definitely remember testing it and it was good 14:24 ashimema darn 14:24 ashimema oh.. is that not pushed yet 14:23 cait1 I think the bug for changing the page titles still needed a patch tho 14:23 cait1 in pqa, i checked that one 14:23 cait1 i think that's in queue already 14:19 oleonard Is there an open bug for that? 14:19 oleonard It's not clearer with the breadcrumbs still pointing back to Tools for all the cataloging tools pages 14:17 ashimema if it makes you feel any better.. so far the three customers of our that have seen it so far absolutely love it. 14:17 ashimema that's kinda the whole point.. try to make things clearer.... but by doing so we make things harder in the short term 14:16 ashimema hugs 14:16 ashimema haha 14:16 oleonard I have a hard enough time remembering whether certain things are in tools or admin XD 14:16 cait1 yah 14:16 ashimema that could work as an interim 14:16 ashimema perhaps even just a link to cat home from tools so it's only one click away instead of back and clikc 14:15 ashimema people were keen.. but I also have the muscle memory trained 14:15 cait1 slowly I admit :) 14:15 cait1 if you add them back on tools that is... I am also getting used to it right now 14:15 ashimema haha.. I know exactly what you mean oleonard.. my apologies for that.. 14:15 cait1 oleonard: it kinda gets messy with breadcrumbs and navigation 14:14 oleonard I know I'll get used to it in time, but I also think it's not illogical to have them in both places. 14:13 oleonard I'm frustrated by the removal of catalog tools from the tools page. 14:06 cait1 did you get some replies from the koha-de mail? 14:06 cait1 tuxayo++ 13:21 oleonard \o/ 13:21 tuxayo yay, someone from a library of a 3500 ihabitants village attends to the patch testing session :D 12:35 Joubu s/compiled css/minified js 12:35 oleonard Joubu: I would say usually a CSS margin is best. With FA icons and HTML buttons it's just a regular space. 12:35 Joubu in Koha we usually add a whitespace in the code, but when whitespaces are removed it get complicated :) 12:35 ashimema walk time.. bbiab 12:34 ashimema be good to group those again to allow easy filtering on that class of bug 12:34 ashimema hmm.. I thought I added a collector for cait's yellow buttons bugs.. but I can't find it now 12:34 Joubu erm/vue/compiled css 12:34 oleonard ashimema: They are a little off 12:33 oleonard In what context Joubu 12:33 Joubu or   or margin? 12:32 Joubu What's the correct way to separate a text and an icon, or a button? 12:30 ashimema sod it.. I've decided I don't care.. there are more important things 12:29 ashimema grr.. I can't see how they are.. but to me they look like the ones on the right of 'search' are all a bit lower than the labels and buttons on the left of search 12:27 ashimema it's really subtle.. but aren't the dt buttons mis-aligned vertically? 12:27 oleonard Yes 12:27 ashimema oleonard still around? 12:23 ashimema so we can happily open a new bug.. though perhaps discuss it on our style guide start instead to get a consensus on it. 12:22 ashimema ha.. well he improved it.. which is why I let it through.. but we didn't discuss further colouring options.. Joubu 12:22 ashimema so you can look at the tree for the page-section collector to filter out all the other staff client fixes 12:21 ashimema so for page-section every bug should be 'depends on' the staff client refresh one.. and 'blocks' the page-section collector 12:21 ashimema I've tried to create some collectors at the other end.. 12:21 tcohen it's got complex to track things atm 12:20 tcohen like 'New staff interface - page-section' 12:20 Joubu div.dialog.message should have a background/borders hum... 12:20 Joubu https://github.com/jajm/koha-staff-interface-redesign/issues/9 12:20 ashimema ? 12:20 tcohen show we have new omnibus bugs? 12:18 ashimema at the moment it's mostly open questions.. but with the hope we can decide on some things to put forward as proposals 12:18 oleonard No I hadn't seen. That's great. 12:17 ashimema https://annuel.framapad.org/p/koha-styleguide-draft 12:17 ashimema did you see that cait and I have started a bunch of questions in a frama to work towards a style guide oleonard? 12:16 oleonard I think white is a little too invisible but I haven't had time to play around with alternatives 12:15 ashimema i assumed it was to reduce the overall color pallet 12:14 oleonard I assume it was a choice made by Solène or jajm, I don't know why 12:14 * ashimema would love to see them banded as 'success', 'failure', etc 12:13 ashimema I have a feeling the blue to white was a deliberate thing.. oleonard ? 12:13 * ashimema actually updated the card _mixin recently to allow overloading bg-color using the bootstrap bg-* classes.. it made the notes section on the patron imports page much clearer to me having it as an 'info' block 12:12 Joubu IIRC blue 12:12 ashimema I feel like they should be.. 12:12 ashimema something like that? 12:12 ashimema were they action colored.. i.e. green if good, red if bad, yellow if warning, blue if just info ? 12:11 ashimema I don't actually remember what that one used to be 12:11 Joubu https://snipboard.io/AfHwtQ.jpg - dialog message has now a background-color: white, expected? 12:10 marcelr o/ 12:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31944 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Toolbar is not correctly aligned 12:06 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31943 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , date inputs wider than other inputs 12:06 Joubu bug 31943, bug 31944 12:05 ashimema in tree you can hide Resolved.. but not Pushed 12:05 ashimema wish there was an easy way to hide 'Pushed' from the graph and tree views.. 12:05 ashimema the collector for these bugs now has grown so huge it's hard to spot the wood for the tree's though.. 12:04 ashimema and I've not reported it yet 12:04 ashimema it's a bug 12:04 Joubu or if it's... not a bug 12:04 * ashimema is running around like a blue ass fly trying to help get all this stuff polished 12:04 Joubu yes but I never know if it has been reported already 12:04 ashimema report all the things 12:04 ashimema yes please 12:04 Joubu Should I report those 2? 12:03 * ashimema likes icons.. 12:03 ashimema also don't know why that one has icons when most others don't 12:03 Joubu it's floating 12:03 ashimema in fact.. we have it in both places but styled differently 12:03 ashimema why do we have that 'save|cancel' at the top when most other places it's down the bottom 12:02 Joubu .btn-toolbar has a margin-left: -5px coming from bootstrap css 12:02 ashimema that's another one I find weird.. 12:02 Joubu Toolbar is not correctly aligned - https://snipboard.io/AG96la.jpg 11:59 Joubu https://snipboard.io/03cGy7.jpg date inputs being wider than other inputs. Feel like we fixed that dozens of times :-/ 11:55 ashimema 🙂 11:55 ashimema I have been 11:53 tcohen ashimema: please QA patches implementing them 11:52 ashimema grr.. pretty much every page I look at needs these page-section containers/classes adding somewhere â˜¹ï¸ 11:50 tcohen I will try to focus most of my working (and after) hours on the release 11:49 tcohen please keep me posted on your interests or if you find something important to take care about 11:49 tcohen busy week everyone 11:47 oleonard Hi tcohen 11:47 tcohen hola #koha o/ 11:38 huginn` magnuse: Quote #252: "<@jcamins> Really the issues is that Anglo-American libraries have settled on a profoundly stupid format that utterly fails to express anything that patrons care about, while going on at great length about things patrons don't care about." (added by chris at 10:42 PM, May 26, 2013) 11:38 magnuse @quote random 11:37 wahanui i already had it that way, huginn`. 11:37 huginn` magnuse: Error: 'random' is not a valid id. 11:37 magnuse @quote get random 11:37 magnuse quote get random 11:37 magnuse werid, i get "-NickServ- You are successfully identified as magnuse" after doing "/IDENTIFY <my password>" 11:31 oleonard cait1 must have done the secret handshake 11:30 cait1 magnuse: it worked for me after huginn accepted me 11:30 cait1 hah 11:30 huginn` cait1: The operation succeeded. Quote #356 added. 11:30 cait1 @quote add oleonard> I'd much rather get bad news than have my mistake make it into master 11:28 magnuse i did identify with huginn` but still... 11:28 huginn` cait1: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 11:28 cait1 @quote add oleonard> I'd much rather get bad news than have my mistake make it into master 11:28 cait1 oh :( 11:27 magnuse yup. usually it's me waving to people, but this time i give up ;-) 11:26 oleonard Is that you throwing up your hands in despair magnuse ? 11:25 magnuse \o/ 11:25 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 11:25 magnuse @quote add oleonard> I'd much rather get bad news than have my mistake make it into master 11:25 huginn` magnuse: Error: You must be registered to use this command. If you are already registered, you must either identify (using the identify command) or add a hostmask matching your current hostmask (using the "hostmask add" command). 11:25 magnuse @quote add oleonard> I'd much rather get bad news than have my mistake make it into master 11:22 * ashimema finds our 'rows' class confusing.. never really taken notice of it before 11:15 oleonard I'd much rather get bad news than have my mistake make it into master 11:14 ashimema maybe.. but I never like being the bearer of bad news 😜 11:13 oleonard I'm pretty sure that's just part of the QA job ashimema 11:12 ashimema sorry for being the pita today 😜 11:11 oleonard Ah, good catch ashimema 11:03 ashimema those two bugs definitely conflict somehow oleonard 11:01 ashimema private window.. fair 11:01 ashimema lol 11:01 Joubu ctrl+shift+p :D 11:00 * ashimema has recently switch from chrome where you had right click options on the refresh button to do various forms of cache nuking refresh 11:00 ashimema whats the most strongest way to do a hard refresh in firefox ? 10:59 ashimema ack.. now I'm confused â˜¹ï¸ 10:57 ashimema with 31861 at least the 'clear filters' becomes a 'button' again 10:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31754 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Passed QA , Improve appearance of behavior of DataTables controls 10:57 ashimema it's the combination of bug 31754 and 31861 I think 10:56 ashimema OK.. I've worked it out 10:54 oleonard Thanks for all the QA ashimema 10:50 ashimema maybe I wasn't getting it.. 10:50 ashimema we now have highlighting on the current page and things.. 10:49 ashimema hmm.. ok.. looks rather different today 10:48 ashimema ok, testing again 10:45 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31754 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Improve appearance of behavior of DataTables controls 10:45 oleonard ashimema your comment on Bug 31754 makes it look like you're not getting the updated CSS when you test 10:20 wahanui hi oleopard 10:20 ashimema hi oleonard 10:20 oleonard Hi #koha 09:57 huginn` Bug https://bugs.koha-community.org/bugzilla3/show_bug.cgi?id=31936 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Link to advanced search form in acquisitions is missing 09:57 cait1 bug 31936 - we lost a feature 09:05 cait1 and then 3 unless ... 09:05 cait1 if with !... always take me a bit 08:24 ashimema wha.... 08:24 ashimema > 79 [% IF !confirm_close && !edi_confirm %]... (full message at <https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/xwJDTxoQgGylfYFsktUziFvo>) 08:24 ashimema and the nested IF's.. wow 08:23 ashimema wow the basket template is messy.... the indentation is sooooo confusing 08:13 cait1 morning paulderscheid[m] 08:10 paulderscheid[m] morning #koha 07:28 magnuse \o/ 06:52 alex_ Bonjour 06:41 ashimema 🙂 06:39 cait1 QA mail will be around lunch today 06:39 cait1 morning ashimema :) 06:39 ashimema morning koha 06:39 ashimema morning cait1 06:39 cait1 good morning #koha 06:24 reiveune hello