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nugged |
@later tell cait that was "moved carefully by ... one person who I can't blame publicly" to another confluence space. I fixed for a moment: https://www.kiwi.fi/display/KK/KohaCon . ALSO: I am launching now draft on intro.perlkohacon.fi to stay on a stage for current KohaCon2022 presentation and call to join. Will update. |
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nugged: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
bidet, reiveune |
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alex_ |
Bonjour |
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ashimema |
morning' |
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cait |
hellooo #koha |
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cait |
hm from logs on master: Can't call method "process" on an undefined value at /kohadevbox/koha/misc/background_jobs_worker.pl line 124. ? |
| 08:00 |
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ashimema |
Pass |
| 08:00 |
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ashimema |
But I can say we're generally finding the background job stuff incredibly unreliable |
| 08:01 |
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cait |
Hm i think the UX is not great atm- addings lots of extra clicks/steps |
| 08:38 |
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ashimema |
For me it's the actual reliability of tasks getting processed.. |
| 08:38 |
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ashimema |
I'm constantly having to kick them |
| 08:38 |
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cait |
we are still on an older version, so not seeing this yet, although I think we have been hit by the 'staff name cannot have diacritics' bug |
| 08:54 |
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cait |
hm no kidclamp |
| 08:56 |
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cait |
@later tell kidclamp coudl you help me to figure out the right syntax for Elasticsearch in bug 31471? |
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huginn` |
cait: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
hm even quieter today... |
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ashimema |
I'm here still 🙂 |
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marcelr |
o/ |
| 11:27 |
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marcelr |
cait: Did you report that warn: Can't call method "process" ? |
| 11:28 |
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marcelr |
if you look in the script, it should be a job in the message broker part of the loop |
| 11:28 |
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marcelr |
there is no check if the Koha find returned something |
| 11:29 |
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marcelr |
there should be more checks in this worker thing to get a more reliable experience |
| 11:44 |
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marcelr |
ashimema: still willing to check bug 22678 ? |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22678 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Set 'Koha::Logger' as the default mojo logger for the REST API |
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ashimema |
doh.. I thought I had |
| 12:35 |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
| 12:35 |
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tcohen |
ashimema around? |
| 12:35 |
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ashimema |
hi |
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tcohen |
do you think you have bandwidth this week so we tackle some background jobs-related stuffs? |
| 12:36 |
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ashimema |
sure |
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tcohen |
yay |
| 12:37 |
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tcohen |
marcelr: have you looked at the 'use the API to displya background jobs' bug? |
| 12:37 |
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tcohen |
we were waiting for some more eyes |
| 12:37 |
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tcohen |
I'd like us to build that component for 'the return of the progress bar' |
| 12:37 |
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marcelr |
ok i read somehting that you did push a report but i did not see it |
| 12:37 |
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tcohen |
(using the API) |
| 12:38 |
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marcelr |
a comment on 27421? |
| 12:38 |
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marcelr |
maybe i misread |
| 12:38 |
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marcelr |
diagonally |
| 12:38 |
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tcohen |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30982 |
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huginn` |
Bug 30982: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Signed Off , Use the REST API for background job list view |
| 12:38 |
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marcelr |
ah ok you didnt push yet |
| 12:38 |
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tcohen |
I'd like to push it, would love you to review it |
| 12:39 |
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marcelr |
sure |
| 12:39 |
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marcelr |
at least qa on friday maybe earlier |
| 12:40 |
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marcelr |
depends on other stuff |
| 12:41 |
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tcohen |
just let me know if you hate it |
| 12:42 |
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marcelr |
i would not expect that |
| 12:42 |
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marcelr |
even when i see ternaries |
| 12:42 |
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tcohen |
haha |
| 12:42 |
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marcelr |
written awfully |
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* tcohen |
hates nested ternaries |
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* marcelr |
looks for testers of bug 31503 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31503 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, m.de.rooy, Needs Signoff , Allow several consent types on the consents tab of OPAC account page |
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ashimema |
nice |
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tcohen |
nice |
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tcohen |
count me in |
| 12:49 |
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cait |
marcelr: sorry, was stuck on soemthing else, didn't report |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
still a little distracted |
| 12:53 |
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cait |
preparing for a workshop tomorrow |
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tcohen |
good luck cait! |
| 12:56 |
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tcohen |
you will rock it for sure |
| 12:56 |
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tcohen |
where is that workshop taking place? |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
ah online |
| 12:57 |
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cait |
it's a series of workshops, we are doing a bit of acq and serials tomorrow... which brings me to |
| 12:58 |
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cait |
coudl someone maybe ping khall for me? :) |
| 12:58 |
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cait |
hm that was the wrong direction |
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cait |
(khall just left) |
| 12:58 |
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tcohen |
computer suspended, afk |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
wanted to reask yesterday's question about the ACQORDER mails |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
if there is a way we coudl display the budget_name |
| 12:59 |
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cait |
using TT |
| 13:01 |
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tcohen |
wait for it |
| 13:04 |
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cait |
I wait :) |
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| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
as far as I can see.. there's a shed load of custom code around that particular notice |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
so I don't think so cait |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
unless.. you can get it from 'branches', 'aqbooksellers', 'aqcontacts' or possibly 'aqbasket' |
| 13:14 |
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ashimema |
the actual orderdetails are a customer 'repeat' sql section |
| 13:15 |
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ashimema |
is budget set at basket level, or per order line.. |
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* ashimema |
can't remember |
| 13:16 |
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cait |
order line |
| 13:16 |
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ashimema |
so you'd want budget per order line |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
so.. in theory you could just ignore the 'repeat' section entirely I reckon.. and instead iterate using TT based on the aqbasket |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
[% FOREACH order IN basket.orders %].. |
| 13:17 |
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ashimema |
something like that |
| 13:18 |
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ashimema |
then [% order.fund.name %] |
| 13:18 |
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ashimema |
that should probably work |
| 13:18 |
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ashimema |
but yeah.. you may well need to re-write half the template to actually get it. |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
i tried several veriation with basket... |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
i didn't get it to output anything |
| 13:19 |
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cait |
so i don't need like that... i need the exact by now |
| 13:20 |
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tcohen |
khall: around? |
| 13:20 |
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KotH |
es, and fish are plants... in japan |
| 13:20 |
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KotH |
oops |
| 13:20 |
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khall |
yep! |
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KotH |
sorry.. wrong window ^^' |
| 13:20 |
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tcohen |
khall: cait (and all of us) is struggling with the ACQORDER notice TT |
| 13:21 |
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tcohen |
which is one of a kind with all that custom stuff |
| 13:21 |
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tcohen |
but we cannot seem to proide her a way to get the budget name |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
heh khall is already helping me |
| 13:21 |
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tcohen |
ah |
| 13:21 |
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cait |
we can move here too - or share results |
| 13:22 |
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cait |
conclusion.... new bug whatever we end up with |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
do it 🙂 |
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* ashimema |
would like to kill off SendAlerts |
| 13:23 |
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ashimema |
it's a weird set of cases |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
it shoudl be moved to be different methods |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
split up |
| 13:23 |
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cait |
acq orders and claims are almost the same, but otherwise it's a lot of very different things |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
as far as I'm concerned.. the majority of the custom handling could just go away if we rewrite the default notice templates to use TT |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
we really don't need this custom 'repeat' chuff any more |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
I did start working through these things but never really got much support.. so I gave up |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
it was yet another up hill struggle |
| 13:29 |
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tcohen |
with TT and Koha::Object(s) we should be able to provide a better (and more generic) approach |
| 13:30 |
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tcohen |
we are still missing a nice doc on what info you can get from object to generate good notices/slips, though |
| 13:31 |
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cait |
i'd be interested, but for a long time I couldn't test email well |
| 13:31 |
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ashimema |
that was right up high on my list tcohen |
| 13:31 |
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cait |
I can now :) witht he SMTP stuff I got it working |
| 13:31 |
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ashimema |
better documentation and a much clearer picker thing |
| 13:32 |
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ashimema |
email is now testable on sandboxes cait 🙂 |
| 13:32 |
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ashimema |
I had it enabled by default, which was the last missing step, for sandboxes last week |
| 13:32 |
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tcohen |
andrewfh once showed me you could dump all the template vars on the notice |
| 13:32 |
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ashimema |
so now.. the message queue processing stuff happens every 5 minutes and will output emails to the mail log in the sandboxes |
| 13:32 |
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cait |
oh nice, didn't know that |
| 13:33 |
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cait |
ptfs sandboxes for now? |
| 13:33 |
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tcohen |
marcelr: are the deps for 31503 correct? |
| 13:33 |
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marcelr |
no they are wrong |
| 13:34 |
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marcelr |
will move the omnibus |
| 13:38 |
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cait |
khall++ |
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oleonard |
Hi from KohaCon |
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tcohen |
o/ |
| 13:40 |
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tcohen |
conffetti |
| 13:40 |
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marcelr |
hi kohacon |
| 13:40 |
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tcohen |
confetti? |
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wahanui |
o/`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` |
| 13:41 |
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cait |
oleonard: please do all the things we'd do and all the other stuff as well :) |
| 13:41 |
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oleonard |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_vxMZ60OmQ |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
question.. |
| 13:42 |
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wahanui |
hmmm... question is a bit general |
| 13:42 |
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cait |
wahanui botsnack cookie |
| 13:42 |
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wahanui |
:) |
| 13:42 |
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ashimema |
do we have a clear guideline as to what should be a tab at the side of the page on catalog details pages.. and what should be a tab at the bottom? |
| 13:43 |
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oleonard |
Not really :/ |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
haha |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
had a feeling that might be the case.. |
| 13:43 |
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ashimema |
I'm stuck wondering where I should put something now.. |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
I wanted to add my concerns stuff to actually appear with the bib |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
but should it be a side tab or a bottom tab.. haha |
| 13:44 |
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cait |
hm as it's part of the MARC... i feel like maybe below? |
| 13:44 |
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oleonard |
That feels like a bottom tab to me if you're taking votes |
| 13:44 |
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ashimema |
or perhaps a 'message' card like we have for messages on patron accounts |
| 13:45 |
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cait |
I am utterly confused by this card terminology |
| 13:46 |
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tcohen |
kohacon++ |
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| 14:05 |
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ashimema |
Thanks 👠|
| 14:27 |
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cait |
khall++ |
| 14:28 |
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cait |
bug 31587 |
| 14:28 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31587 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Needs Signoff , Basket not accessible from ACQORDER notice |
| 14:36 |
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tcohen |
khall++ |
| 14:36 |
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tcohen |
cait++ # in advance for that documentation hehe |
| 14:37 |
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cait |
I'll add the new notice template, once we have this gone through - makes more sense then, so we can make a nice one |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
i have nother puzzling bug: Bug 31585 |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
i have no idea why not all of the listed ations show up in our form right now |
| 14:38 |
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cait |
i thinkt he bug is in the template, but there's a lot of magic there |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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cait |
small errors... big consequences |
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tcohen |
can we standardize on 'extended_attributes' for attributes outside of the table? |
| 15:09 |
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ashimema |
? |
| 15:11 |
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tcohen |
patron extended_attributes, then items (more_xml_subfields) |
| 15:11 |
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tcohen |
and then we have Koha::AdditionalFieldValues |
| 15:11 |
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ashimema |
lol |
| 15:11 |
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ashimema |
crazy huh |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 15:42 |
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oleonard |
I did not anticipate that Koha testing would be so difficult on a new Mac laptop |
| 15:42 |
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oleonard |
koha-testing-docker not working, VirtualBox doesn't work |
| 15:56 |
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tuxayo |
oleonard: You have an ARM Mac with MacOS? |
| 15:56 |
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oleonard |
Yes |
| 15:56 |
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tuxayo |
I think paulderscheid has that and is running KTD |
| 15:57 |
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oleonard |
Hm, okay. All I've found so far is this: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cker/-/issues/277 |
| 16:02 |
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tuxayo |
great, you are 3 people at least trying to run that! |
| 16:06 |
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tcohen |
the problem is ES |
| 16:06 |
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tcohen |
the rest of it should work? |
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tcohen |
hi kidclamp |
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tcohen |
!! |
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* kidclamp |
waves |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "docker-compose -f docker-compose-light.yml -p koha up --force-recreate" (7 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14931 |
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oleonard |
tcohen does that give you any insight? |
| 16:25 |
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tcohen |
nope |
| 16:25 |
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tcohen |
aren't you using the 'ktd' command? |
| 16:25 |
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oleonard |
I'm having trouble with my aliases |
| 16:25 |
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tcohen |
I haven't had the chance to play with an M1 mac |
| 16:25 |
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tcohen |
ktd is a symlink |
| 16:25 |
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tcohen |
not an alias |
| 16:26 |
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tcohen |
something new we added |
| 16:26 |
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oleonard |
Oh. I'll have to try more after lunch :) |
| 16:26 |
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tcohen |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ting-docker#setup |
| 16:28 |
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tuxayo |
Should the ktd command yield a different result than docker-compose-light.yml ? |
| 16:29 |
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tuxayo |
weird apache error |
| 16:43 |
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tcohen |
ktd up => docker-compose-light.yml |
| 16:43 |
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tcohen |
ktd --es7 up => you get it |
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tcohen |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]ster/bin/ktd#L139 |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "Using "ktd up"" (16 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14936 |
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oleonard_ |
If you're still around, tcohen ^^ |
| 17:50 |
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oleonard_ |
Or other smart people |
| 17:51 |
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tcohen |
echo $KOHA_IMAGE |
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tcohen |
? |
| 17:52 |
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tcohen |
ktd down |
| 17:52 |
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tcohen |
KOHA_IMAGE=master-bullseye ktd up |
| 17:52 |
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tcohen |
that's what I'm using |
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* oleonard_ |
trying |
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mtj |
hi oleonard_, tcohen |
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pastebot |
"oleonard" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "KOHA_IMAGE=master-bullseye ktd up" (14 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14938 |
| 18:01 |
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oleonard |
Hi mtj! |
| 18:02 |
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mtj |
hi oleonard, ill try to sort a master image for your m1 |
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oleonard |
Thanks mtj |
| 18:04 |
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mtj |
oleonard: perhaps try getting a 22.05-bullseye thing running 1st |
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mtj |
oleonard: clone this https://gitlab.com/mjames/ktd-arm64 |
| 18:06 |
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mtj |
change to 22.05 branch |
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wahanui |
mtj: that doesn't look right |
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"mtj" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "ka-arm64-22.05" (25 lines) at https://paste.koha-community.org/14940 |
| 18:07 |
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mtj |
oleonard: then run that ^ |
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oleonard |
🙠|
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oleonard |
mtj: koha-koha-1 exited after "Cannnot open file No such file or directory at /kohadevbox/misc4dev/cp_debian_files.pl line 35." |
| 18:22 |
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mtj |
export SYNC_REPO="/home/mason/g/k/ktd_koha" |
| 18:22 |
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mtj |
oleonard: you might need to set your export SYNC_REPO var? |
| 18:22 |
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tcohen |
just in case (happened to me recently on the mac) |
| 18:22 |
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tcohen |
unset PERL5LIB |
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tcohen |
on the shell you're running things |
| 18:23 |
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mtj |
cp ./env/defaults.env .env |
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mtj |
^ oleonard: and get a sane default .env file |
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oleonard |
sane doesn't fit my mood |
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tcohen |
ROTFL |
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tuxayo |
We need insane-defaults.env |
| 18:30 |
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* tcohen |
loves randomly failing settings |
| 18:31 |
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tcohen |
as in selenium tests in Koha_Master |
| 18:31 |
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oleonard |
mtj looks like I'm up and running, thank you so much! |
| 18:34 |
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mtj |
no probs, the elastic stuff does work on arm64/m1 |
| 18:37 |
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tuxayo |
mtj++ |
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tuxayo |
welcome back oleonard ^^ Is ES running also ? |
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oleonard |
I don't know, I didn't check! |
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oleonard |
I usually don't test ES because it makes things more difficult |
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tuxayo |
Currently live from KohaCon, «Koha Implementation in GHQ central Library» by Sher Afzal Khan (Koha Pakistan) |
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tuxayo |
https://youtube.com/kohaus/live |
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mtj |
oleonard: there is a master-bullseye image now |
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mtj |
git checkout master |
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mtj |
git fetch; git pull |
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mtj |
hmm, its untested tho... ill start a test on it |
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mtj |
oleonard: master-bullseye image seems to work, if that helps... |
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oleonard |
mtj++ |
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thd |
oleonard: Are you in Kansas now? |
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oleonard |
Yes |
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thd |
I do not have access to the KohaCon22 Google Group. I did not use a gmail address to register for the virtual conference. |
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davidnind[m] |
thd: link for live stream https://youtube.com/kohaus/live |
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thd |
davidnind[m]: Thanks, I have been attending the YouTube stream more or less but am missing some other information from the KohaCon22 Google Group to which I am not subscribed. |
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thd |
kidclamp: You should be testing performance against at least hundreds of thousands of records if not millions. |
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kidclamp |
I do that sometimes, but when I hear my CPU fan kick on, I throttle back :-D |
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thd |
That keeps your CPU fan well tested :) |
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tuxayo |
thd: if the KohaCon22 Google Group is like the Koha US "mailing list" (it's a Google Group) then you need a Google account. If more people report that they can't read or take part due to that then hopefully future choices or tool will be more respectable. |
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tuxayo |
Hostile digital tools are everywhere :( |
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thd |
tuxayo: I gave oleonard a googlemail address which I have but never use in hopes that he might be able to reach someone in person to add that address to the Google Group. |
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tuxayo |
you can reach "info AT koha-us.org " also |
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tuxayo |
Careful, it's Gmail address, so risk of ending up in spam |
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thd |
tuxayo: Running a mail server or group messaging requires some effort particularly at spam prevention. Even with the specially created email address through which I registered for virtual conference attendance half of the four or so messages I have are spam. |
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tuxayo |
Currently live from KohaCon, «Twilio – Enhancing Patron Communication» by Christopher Brannon (Coeur d’Alene Public Library / Cooperative Information Network) |
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tuxayo |
Just starting https://youtube.com/kohaus/live |
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