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marcelr |
hi fridolin |
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yey marcelr le bonjour |
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reiveune |
hello |
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bonjour, reiveune |
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waves |
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paulderscheid[m] |
morning #koha |
| 07:56 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
I've got an interesting idea. Wouldn't it be great if we had key-based auth on the API? |
| 07:57 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
I thought about managing sysprefs via API but I think without key-based auth it's not safe enough. |
| 08:02 |
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matts |
hi paulderscheid[m], you can create API keys for a given user: https://koha-community.org/man[…]rface-for-patrons |
| 08:02 |
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marcelr |
yeah it is already there |
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marcelr |
we only have the cookie based stuff too |
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ashimema |
I assume you mean pki pauldetscheid |
| 08:03 |
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ashimema |
But I still don't see why that would be a requirement.. we don't require it for login in general, but do offer it I believe ... Can't say I've actually seen anyone using it in the wild though if I'm honest |
| 08:04 |
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ashimema |
What we do need however is to support more oauth flows |
| 08:04 |
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ashimema |
Our client credentials only flow isn't great |
| 08:05 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
Very cool |
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marcelr |
ashimema: i pqaed 29744 and simplied 31468 and made it dependent; could you have a look again? |
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paulderscheid[m] |
Good to know |
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marcelr |
s/simplied/simplified/ |
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ashimema |
This afternoon I can.. once I'm back from the school run I need to concentrate on writing a post for our new website.. lunchtime deadline |
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marcelr |
thx |
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paulderscheid[m] |
ashimema: I think we'll make use of that in the near future |
| 08:08 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
Anyway, thanks for the pointers. I'm glad that it's already there ^^ |
| 08:13 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
<ashimema> "What we do need however is to..." <- What's missing? |
| 08:13 |
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paulderscheid[m] |
Just out of curiosity |
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cait |
po files on Pootle have been updated (no string freeze announced yet I think) |
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lds |
hi |
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lds |
hello |
| 08:54 |
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lds |
do you have feedback on using mariadb 10.6 with koha? |
| 08:56 |
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cait |
hm no idea what we are using let me check |
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cait |
10.3.34-MariaDB - no known issues, we always use what's in Debian I believe |
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lds |
jenkins test is ok https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.05_U22/ |
| 09:03 |
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fridolin |
it is not yet in https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]d_recommendations |
| 09:03 |
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fridolin |
maybe it should be |
| 09:03 |
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fridolin |
tuxayo: do you know about MariaDB 10.6 ? |
| 09:11 |
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mtj |
hi lds, we have a mariadb-latest build, that seems to be passing - running 10.9.2 |
| 09:12 |
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mtj |
https://jenkins.koha-community[…]r_D11_MDB_Latest/ |
| 09:13 |
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cait |
if you need a website update let me know |
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| 09:16 |
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marcelr |
hi mtj did you see the Debian 9 bug |
| 09:17 |
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marcelr |
few days ago |
| 09:17 |
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mtj |
marcelr: yes, i updated the wiki page to remove EOL deb9 |
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marcelr |
ok |
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marcelr |
that makes sense |
| 09:18 |
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marcelr |
should we announce that somewhere else too? |
| 09:19 |
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mtj |
yeah, i think so |
| 09:20 |
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mtj |
ML perhaps? |
| 09:20 |
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mtj |
..and website 'news' item? |
| 09:21 |
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mtj |
lds, i'll change the U22 jenkins builds to use mariadb-10.6 |
| 09:24 |
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mtj |
i think it is a good idea to have each OS build, running the DB version which is avaiable in it's repo |
| 09:24 |
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mtj |
... rather than all builds running mariadb 10.3, etc |
| 09:27 |
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mtj |
that way we can test more db versions too |
| 09:28 |
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marcelr |
mtj: ML would be good |
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mtj |
ok, i can do that |
| 09:33 |
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marcelr |
mtj++ |
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marcelr |
i closed the bug |
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cait |
mtj: coudl you help me fix https://koha-community.org/download-koha/ ? |
| 09:35 |
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cait |
it lists debian 9 under Current Release |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
the link List of all released versions of Koha also seems not correctly labelled |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
released versions and packaged versions are different - also the link doesn't show all packages ever made.. |
| 09:37 |
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cait |
possibly shoudl be change dto https://download.koha-community.org/old_releases/ ? |
| 09:38 |
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mtj |
me looks |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
thanks :) |
| 09:38 |
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cait |
just saw "M... is currently editing" :) |
| 09:45 |
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marcelr |
ashimema++ |
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cait |
mtj++ |
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mtj |
cait: look ok? |
| 10:01 |
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ashimema |
erm |
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ashimema |
cait.. I can't replicate bug 31465 |
| 10:01 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31465 trivial, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , 21.11 manual says it is 20.05 manual |
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ashimema |
hang on... |
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ashimema |
how are you getting to '/systempreferences.html'... it's 'globalpreferences.html' for me... |
| 10:04 |
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ashimema |
if I navigate around the manual I can't find a link page you link to from the bug anywhere.. |
| 10:04 |
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ashimema |
I'm confused |
| 10:06 |
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ashimema |
OK.. back in january 2021 I split up the one huge sysprefs file into smaller ones.. looks like that's when 'systempreferences' became 'globalpreferences' |
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cait |
ashimema: i just copied the link i used earlier... |
| 10:11 |
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cait |
not navigating |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
let me check |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
the link works for me: https://koha-community.org/man[…]mpreferences.html |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
oh i see |
| 10:12 |
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cait |
maybe an old file was not deleted and that's all? |
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cait |
https://koha-community.org/man[…]tml#web-installer is correct version-wise |
| 10:13 |
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ashimema |
exactly |
| 10:13 |
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ashimema |
I'm confused though.. the rsync is meant to get rid of deleted files |
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cait |
i had manipulated the url given on the bug trying a different version |
| 10:13 |
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ashimema |
I'm jsut building locally so try and work out what's going on. |
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cait |
ok |
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cait |
but maybe deleting them once woudl also be ok |
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ashimema |
I'll ask on the bug.. I'm wondering where the URL is coming from in the first place |
| 10:14 |
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ashimema |
I reckon it couldperhaps be at the koha help end |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
hm yeah |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
so we'd need to change different spots |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
make the page go away, but also fix the link |
| 10:14 |
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ashimema |
indeed |
| 10:14 |
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cait |
the mapping is in a .pm module |
| 10:15 |
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cait |
i recently added a link, but forgot the exact name |
| 10:15 |
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ashimema |
so the file doesn't exist when I build recent branches.. I have no idea how you don't get a 404 |
| 10:15 |
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ashimema |
rsync must be doing something funky I reckon |
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cait |
https://git.koha-community.org[…]oha/Manual.pm#L92 |
| 10:16 |
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ashimema |
aha.. thans |
| 10:16 |
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ashimema |
I've never really dug into that area of Koha |
| 10:16 |
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ashimema |
fancy fixing it there and I'll QA it.. |
| 10:17 |
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ashimema |
I'll work on the rsync side |
| 10:17 |
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cait |
i'll step out for a quick lunch, bbiab |
| 10:17 |
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ashimema |
okies |
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cait |
probably won't get to do that today - long todo :( |
| 10:19 |
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ashimema |
rsync -c -u -r -e.. looks like we're missing --del |
| 10:19 |
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ashimema |
I'll ask ranig about it.. there might be something I'm overlooking |
| 10:19 |
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ashimema |
@seen rangi |
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huginn` |
ashimema: rangi was last seen in #koha 1 year, 13 weeks, 6 days, 13 hours, 51 minutes, and 1 second ago: <rangi> ive been accused of worse |
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ashimema |
holy moly |
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cait |
not much on IRC these days |
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lds |
mtj[m]: : thanks :) |
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lds |
I did some tests with mariadb 10.6 everything seems ok, the only thing that bothers me is that : https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-28327 |
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tcohen |
hola #koha |
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cait |
hola |
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ashimema |
Hi |
| 12:22 |
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wahanui |
hello, ashimema |
| 12:37 |
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ashimema |
would anyone mind if I stepped in and cleared the mreege request queue on the manual? |
| 12:50 |
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cait |
not me for sure :) |
| 12:51 |
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* ashimema |
is working through |
| 12:51 |
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tcohen |
ashimema++ |
| 12:51 |
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ashimema |
there are things in here that should really have gone in months ago |
| 12:51 |
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ashimema |
like carolines excellent work on the recalls docs |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
push them :) |
| 12:52 |
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cait |
apologize later ;) |
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ashimema |
😛 |
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| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
right... |
| 13:04 |
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ashimema |
so I'm merging to the current branch.. so far everything has made sense to do so |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
so that's 22.05.. |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
what I've not done is backported.. with the backlog, I'm not sure if it's worthwhile going through or not honestly.. |
| 13:05 |
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ashimema |
I think we should draw a line and try and start the next cycle better regarding docs |
| 13:06 |
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mtj |
lds, the U22 jenkins tests are now using latest mariadb 10.6 (10.6.9) - but tests are not all passing (yet) |
| 13:07 |
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mtj |
master_u22 is green :) https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_Master_U22 |
| 13:10 |
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mtj |
lds, probably safer to go with ubuntu 20.04 LTS, and mariadb 10.3 |
| 13:10 |
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mtj |
https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/mariadb-server |
| 13:25 |
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lds |
mtj: ok :) |
| 13:26 |
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lds |
mtj: mariadb 10.6 is LTS that's why I would like to install it on my park https://endoflife.date/mariadb |
| 13:29 |
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mtj |
lds: yep, but you want to install a version of mariadb that everyone is using |
| 13:30 |
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mtj |
...rather than a newer version, that nobody is using |
| 13:30 |
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lds |
mtj: |
| 13:30 |
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lds |
mtj: I want to use a version that does not cause problems with koha :) |
| 13:30 |
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lds |
and I would like it to be consistent with the other software in my fleet that use 10.6 |
| 13:31 |
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lds |
10.6 exist since 1 year and 2 months .... |
| 13:34 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: is the problem about t/db_dependent/Koha/Items.t ? |
| 13:34 |
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tuxayo |
Or is this failure not related to Maria DB 10.6? |
| 13:34 |
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tuxayo |
hi lds :) |
| 13:35 |
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mtj |
tuxayo: i dont know either way |
| 13:36 |
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mtj |
lds: 21.05 with maria 10.6 is passing |
| 13:36 |
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mtj |
https://jenkins.koha-community[…]b/Koha_21.05_U22/ |
| 13:36 |
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tuxayo |
found, it's bug 31473 |
| 13:36 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=31473 minor, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Pushed to master , Test about bad OpacHiddenItems conf fragile |
| 13:37 |
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tuxayo |
Which I backported to 21.05 which is why it's passing. |
| 13:37 |
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tuxayo |
However it's just a test fix. |
| 13:38 |
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tuxayo |
So there seems to be no know bug with Koha it self is it? |
| 13:39 |
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tuxayo |
lds: «10.6 exist since 1 year and 2 months ....» It's been a while we have passing tests on 10.6 if I recall correcly. |
| 13:41 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: Unless there is a known issue with MariaDB 10.6, the situation looks like to be we are waiting for the 1st large hoster to deploy 10.6 |
| 13:43 |
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tuxayo |
> we have passing tests on 10.6 if I recall correcly. |
| 13:43 |
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tuxayo |
Ok, now it's even MariaDB 10.8 for main/master branch |
| 13:44 |
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mtj |
i guess we've been testing maria 10.6 on master-mdb-latest build, since july-2021 |
| 13:44 |
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mtj |
.. until feb 2022 |
| 13:45 |
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tuxayo |
Thanks, I wasn't able to see past the august build in the CI |
| 13:46 |
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tuxayo |
> .. until feb 2022 |
| 13:46 |
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tuxayo |
Image probably switched to 10.7 |
| 13:46 |
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tuxayo |
And then the Ubuntu 22.04 build took over I guess |
| 13:46 |
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mtj |
anyhoo.. u22 builds are now testing with maria-10.6, so we start testing it properly |
| 13:47 |
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mtj |
yeah, bump to 10.7 on 08 Feb 2022 |
| 13:47 |
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mtj |
https://endoflife.date/mariadb |
| 13:47 |
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tuxayo |
I'm digging in the last 6 month of the tickets to find mariadb bugs and found nothing related to 10.6 |
| 13:48 |
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tuxayo |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MariaDB#Versioning |
| 13:48 |
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tuxayo |
10.7 |
| 13:48 |
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tuxayo |
17 September 2021; 11 months ago |
| 13:48 |
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tuxayo |
The Wikipedia article and endoflife.date diverge |
| 13:48 |
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tuxayo |
^^" |
| 13:49 |
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lds |
tuxayo: I deployed 10.6 on ephemeral instances |
| 13:49 |
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lds |
I did not notice any problems |
| 13:49 |
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lds |
I'm going to pass the demos in 10.6 I'll let you know if we find any problems |
| 13:49 |
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tuxayo |
Maybe wikipedia counts from the Release Candidate date and not the |
| 13:49 |
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tuxayo |
GA date |
| 13:49 |
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tuxayo |
lds: Don't expect to find any issue with basic usage of Koha |
| 13:50 |
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tuxayo |
If there is a 10.6 it should be sutble |
| 13:50 |
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tuxayo |
lds: oh, if that helps, a few months ago, I was running 10.6 locally when testing patches. |
| 13:51 |
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tuxayo |
I was running the mariadb lastest at that time |
| 13:52 |
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mtj |
tuxayo: looks like EOL website tracks 'stable' versions, not rc/alpha/beta |
| 13:52 |
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mtj |
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/chan[…]riadb-106-series/ |
| 13:52 |
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mtj |
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/chan[…]riadb-107-series/ |
| 13:53 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: ok so wikipedia article tracks at less useful date, good to know |
| 13:53 |
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tuxayo |
*a less |
| 13:54 |
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mtj |
lds, thanks for testing 10.6 - i think you will be ok :) |
| 13:59 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: I give up digging tickets ^^ So no known issues, tests show no issue in Koha for 21.11, I was using mariadb 10.6 a few month back to test patch without finding something. |
| 13:59 |
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tuxayo |
They can totally put it in a few moderate size production instances without really expecting trouble? What do you think? |
| 13:59 |
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mtj |
lds: the good news with maria10.6 is that its been tested with koha-master for 7-ish months |
| 14:02 |
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mtj |
tuxayo: i think it looks promising :) |
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tuxayo |
lds: So go for 10.6🚀 |
| 14:21 |
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tuxayo |
You were not going to deploy your new containers to everyone anyway? |
| 14:21 |
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tuxayo |
lds: are you also upgrading to ubuntu 22.04? |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
mtj «i think it is a good idea to have each OS build, running the DB version which is avaiable in it's repo» |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
+1, need help to edit the CI jobs? |
| 14:23 |
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* ashimema |
hopes he hasn't broken gitlab... I now have rather a large number of manual builds running.. haha |
| 14:26 |
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tuxayo |
How large? Should we expect power outages in Europe already? :P |
| 14:26 |
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tuxayo |
âš¡ï¸ðŸ“ˆâš¡ï¸ |
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mtj |
tuxayo: no need to edit the jobs, build.pl handles the problem |
| 14:34 |
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tuxayo |
Cool, is this new? |
| 14:35 |
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mtj |
hmm, new-ish... |
| 14:35 |
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mtj |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]nfig/build.pl#L37 |
| 14:36 |
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mtj |
aaah, we are missing u18 and u20 :) |
| 14:42 |
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tuxayo |
This is neat! |
| 14:44 |
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tuxayo |
mtj: so about the sysreq wikipage it's not enough for OSes and DBMS to extract it from the CI? I hoped it would have been that simple ^^ |
| 14:45 |
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cait |
tcohen++ |
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tcohen |
koha++ |
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reiveune |
bye |
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ashimema |
https://koha-community.org/manual/22.11/en/html/ now actually goes somewhere 🙂 |
| 15:45 |
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tcohen |
ahismema++ |
| 15:45 |
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tcohen |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
😀 |
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caroline_catlady |
ashimema++ good news indeed! Thanks for merging |
| 15:51 |
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ashimema |
Pleasure.. sorry I failed to rebase one for you.. the others in was confident with but that one I couldn't quite work out |
| 15:51 |
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ashimema |
I'm contemplating standing for docs manager next cycle to help get this stuff more of a yellow brick road |
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caroline_catlady |
I was going to offer myself as tribute, but I think you're more reliable than me since you're always here. I get swamped in client migrations |
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cait |
ashimema++ |
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cait |
have a nice weekend all! |
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tuxayo |
caroline_catlady: hi :) |
| 17:27 |
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tuxayo |
Do you know something about the controversial design points of bug 17015 that block it? |
| 17:27 |
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huginn` |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=17015 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, maryse.simard, Failed QA , New Koha Calendar |
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caroline_catlady |
tuxayo, not much. I know it is controversial and we basically abandoned it as part of community work. It is part of our own patch set since its inception, but I wasn't there at that time (I've "only" been with inlibro 5 years and this calendar has been around more than that lol!) so I don't know exactly what was the problem with the calendar to prompt a complete redesign. |
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tuxayo |
caroline_catlady thanks, which of your colleagues would know best about what blocks this? |
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caroline_catlady |
probably blou/Philippe Blouin he's our head of dev |
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tuxayo |
thanks! |
