IRC log for #koha, 2022-06-14

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00:03 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_U20 build #437: SUCCESS in 44 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U20/437/
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06:26 reiveune hello
06:26 wahanui hello, reiveune
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06:36 fridolin bonjour
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06:49 cait good morning #koha!
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06:56 alex_ Bonjour
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08:29 * Oak waves
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09:30 cait oleonard: are you using serial alert emials by chance? looking for some input on bug 22180 (bug or feature)
09:30 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22180 normal, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , SERIAL_ALERT email does not send if the status is claimed before arrived
10:05 Oak Hi, so I need to help a library with their self check-in/checkout kiosk. They said it involves SIP. Is this all there is on SIP: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Category:SIP2
10:06 Oak I've never done this type of thing -- the SIP and kiosk. Any tips, links to docs, or guidelines if anyone has time would help.
10:07 Oak Even if it's: "Google xyz" and point me in the right direction. Where to start reading.
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10:13 tcohen hola #koha
10:18 Oak hola
10:19 ashimema Morning,
10:20 ashimema Those are probably your best bets for reading for now regards SIP Oak
10:20 ashimema the stuff on the wider internet gets rather technical rather fast
10:20 ashimema and lots of it is not longer available docs wise.
10:21 Oak Hmm. Thank you @ashimema
10:21 Oak How about this:
10:21 ashimema the hardest bit you'll find is just making sure the firewalls are setup correct.. and its a good idea to tunnel the connection to get the data encrypted
10:21 * ashimema goes back to meeting
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10:23 Oak If I can get sort of like an elevator pitch: like broad 1,2,3 non technical steps to get self checkout working? Broad strokes. I can figure out the technical steps myself.
10:24 Oak Self checkot with SIP, I meant. If I get it to work, I'll make sure to add a new wiki page with just the basic steps for someone like me who has no idea how does it work.
10:25 Oak This is a union catalogue. Physically separate libraries in different cities. The SIP needs to work on multiple locations.
10:25 cait Oak: ther is another documentation in hte manual - that might be easier
10:26 Oak Thank you!
10:26 Oak Link?
10:26 wahanui Link is probably strange, add / at the end
10:26 cait sec
10:26 cait https://koha-community.org/man[…]ighlight=sip#sip2
10:27 Oak Danke
10:27 cait :)
10:27 tcohen hi cait Oak ashimema
10:27 * tcohen goes get one liter of coffee
10:28 cait Oak: the self check machine is like a staff user, linked to a staff user account via the conf file - so we usually have one patron per branch/sometimes machine
10:28 ashimema the coffee at my meeting is terrible...
10:28 cait drives you back here? :)
10:28 * ashimema has been up since 5am and needs a good coffee ☹️
10:28 Oak > so we usually have one patron per branch/sometimes machine
10:28 Oak Ooooh this makes sense
10:29 cait having multiple locations is no issue :)
10:30 cait it might be enough to set the branch in the conf file, but I think different users make sense too
10:36 Oak I'
10:37 Oak Different users, from each branch make sense to me. I have something to explore now. Thank you so much!
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10:43 magnuse Oak
10:43 Oak magnuse
10:44 magnuse :-)
10:44 Oak \o/
10:47 oleonard Hi cait, I'm here now
10:47 oleonard No we're not using serial email alerts
10:52 cait @later tell Oak sorry, got interrupted
10:52 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
10:55 oleonard ashimema around?
10:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30409: (QA follow-up) Fix grammar in syspref help text <https://git.koha-community.org[…]238b93a850b5a0c58>
10:57 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30409: barcodedecode() should always trim barcode <https://git.koha-community.org[…]19d75d3a013407123>
10:58 ashimema in a meeting but sorta around
10:59 Oak That's 90% of the meetings. Good.
11:01 oleonard ashimema: I wanted to ask whether you'd ever tried to hide disabled items in a Select2 widget. It's not urgent.
11:01 ashimema sitting next to the MD 😜
11:01 ashimema hmm, I have a vague recollection
11:02 oleonard (sometimes the only work I get done in a meeting is when I'm not paying attention)
11:02 ashimema think I perhaps just outright removed them rather than hid?
11:04 oleonard By the way ashimema I got your Select2 autocomplete snippet working yesterday and I think it's very promising
11:04 ashimema awesome
11:04 ashimema more than happy to help on that front
11:10 cait we had some complaints after the update about the new large size fo the item form input fields
11:11 cait but it was either that or too small... any idea if they fixed that issue now in the select2 library?
11:11 oleonard After which update cait?
11:17 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  ðŸ•ðŸ‘🍭
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11:30 marcelr o/
11:30 tcohen \o
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30409: (QA follow-up) Avoid uninitialized variable warnings <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3282878b3ab7be527>
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29623: (QA follow-up) Add POD to Koha::CirculationRules <https://git.koha-community.org[…]3461ec33ca3602944>
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29623: (QA follow-up) Add POD to Koha::Cache::Lite <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d304471853f4b4e01>
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30917: Improve course reserves breadcrumbs <https://git.koha-community.org[…]06947045c2985c9b7>
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29623: Don't flush the whole L1 cache <https://git.koha-community.org[…]b0cd8f86ff84764b2>
11:30 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 29623: Cache circulation rules <https://git.koha-community.org[…]5302cd7369c4d6d94>
11:30 ashimema 🙂
11:31 tcohen 🙂
11:31 tcohen oleonard++ # the little details that makes us better
11:31 oleonard Very happy to have my little corner to play in
11:32 Oak oleonard++
11:39 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9 build #2007: SUCCESS in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D9/2007/
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11:45 cait oleonard: we just updated to 20.11
11:45 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  ðŸ›ðŸ™ðŸš
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11:48 cait oleonard: I can't spot the bug :(
11:48 cait and half in a meeting
11:48 cait we extended the length of the item form fields because of a bug in select2 for the auto-sitzing to content
11:51 oleonard I know others have seen that bug and I never have
11:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 30420: Rename Koha::Patron->get_overdues with ->overdues <https://git.koha-community.org[…]d5aab130ab3403be8>
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13:42 lukeg hi
13:59 oleonard Hi lukeg
14:02 oleonard So if "UseCirculationDesks" is enabled, the interface doesn't seem to let you select no desk
14:03 oleonard If you force Koha to set no desk (by editing the login form for instance), it will show "NO DESK SET" in the header
14:03 oleonard Should Koha also refuse to do checkouts and returns?
14:06 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #687: SUCCESS in 1 hr 0 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/687/
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14:11 lukeg I only see the #nodesk option when no desks are defined
14:25 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
14:25 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master build #2061: FIXED in 1 hr 9 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_Master/2061/
14:25 wahanui Congratulations!
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14:37 FlorianB Hello Koha!
14:40 FlorianB i'm trying to make my first syspref and the wiki page on that is a bit confusing : the very first step says to edit kohastructure.sql but not how, and kohastructure.sql is a huge file with more than 6k lines. It could use a few more cguidelines.
14:40 FlorianB https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]s#Files_to_change
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14:42 ashimema you shouldn't need to edit kohastructure to add a syspref
14:43 ashimema installer/data/mysql/sysprefs.sql is the one you'll want to add to
14:43 ashimema and you'll also need an atomic update
14:43 ashimema I'd have a grap around db_revs looking for systempreferences
14:43 ashimema there will be a number you can copy to base the update on
14:44 ashimema copy it to atmomicupdate dir and edit as appropriate
14:44 ashimema finally.. there's a yaml file you'll need ot add to for it to appear nicely in the UI
14:45 FlorianB Ah, I see
14:45 FlorianB Lemme try
14:47 ashimema the yaml will be in temlates/modules/admin/preferences or something like that
14:47 ashimema I'm on my phone right now so can't easily look it up
14:52 cait FlorianB: i think there is a page about prefs too, let me see
14:53 cait FlorianB: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]ystem_Preferences
14:57 FlorianB cait: Yeah i'm using it as well, I think I'm just overthinking it and I went through the whole database update page from the top
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15:46 oleonard Can a hold notice access information about what the patron's messaging preferences are? It doesn't look like it can.
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17:36 oleonard lukeg around?
17:38 oleonard @later tell lukeg Will you be returning to Bug 30031? I'm wondering if I shouldn't keep it as a dependency for Bug 30304 and Bug 30309
17:38 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
17:56 Oak @later tell cait Your tips worked! I went to the uni and got their SIP2 based self checkout working on two different cities \o/ Thank you so much.
17:56 huginn Oak: The operation succeeded.
17:56 Oak Good night #koha
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18:14 lukeg oleonard-away: Bug 30076 will allow to access information about messaging prefs in notices, im excited for that one!
18:14 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30076 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, RESOLVED FIXED, Add ability to check patron messaging preferences from a notice
18:15 lukeg oleonard-away: I do plan to return to 30031. I will put that a bit higher on my list and try to address it ASAP
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19:40 tuxayo Hi #koha :) Does anyone have time to proofread or test bug 30733 ? The aim is to have it ready in master and backported to 22.05 before the string freeze which is in the next days.
19:40 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30733 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, victor, Signed Off , Simplify translatable strings
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