IRC log for #koha, 2022-04-29

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04:02 alohabot 🎁 🐱 Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha' repo  🥇🌝🚀
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04:52 alohabot 🎁 🤖 Koha '20.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha' repo  🥉🌏🚀
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06:13 marcelr hi #koha
06:28 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 24001: (follow-up) Fix t_Profile.t <https://git.koha-community.org[…]ab4e01304a9d338cf>
06:34 magnuse_ wow, guess i don't understand the point of rabbit at all...
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06:34 alex_ Bonjour
06:35 magnuse_ "true, if you break the rabbit connection the jobs will get picked" does that mean turning rabbit off will get the jobs done?
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06:58 reiveune hello
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07:10 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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07:12 wahanui Congratulations!
07:16 ashimema morning #koha
07:17 alohabot 🎁 🦄 Koha 'master' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  🥭🍕🍤
07:21 magnuse_ mtj++
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09:03 cait marcelr++
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09:27 cait Is someone already looking into bug 30600?
09:27 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30600 critical, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Recalls sync problem between DBIx and kohastructure.sql
09:36 ashimema it was on my list if someone doesn't beat me to it
09:36 ashimema in meetings most of the morning though cait, so feel free to grab it 🙂
09:38 cait it needs SO first, I'll have a look, will still need QA after
10:33 tcohen morning
10:34 oleonard Hi all
10:47 * cait waves
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11:04 domm[m] Does anybody know if this is a known problem / fixed bug / new bug / config issue: When a new biblio item is created during the suggestion/order/basket process (acqui/basket.pl => Add to Basket => From suggestion => acqui/neworderempty.pl), some data is lost and all Umlauts are gone
11:05 domm[m] might this be an issue with the Framework we are using? Though the lost Umlauts (in fact all non-Ascii characters) seems to be a bug
11:06 cait kidclamp: do you have time to look at the preferred names again today?
11:06 cait yes
11:06 cait you need to check the LDR is there
11:06 cait the LDR tells the record is UTF8
11:06 cait with it missing the umlauts are broken (and the record is too actually)
11:07 cait domm^
11:08 domm[m] ok, but what's LDR (sorry, still quite noob-ish in a lot of bibliospeak)
11:08 domm[m] ah, leader?
11:08 cait yes :)
11:09 cait you can prrobably se ta default value for it
11:13 domm[m] hm, but there is no way to specify a leader in acqui/neworderempty.pl
11:13 cait well it depends
11:14 cait do you see field numbers?
11:14 cait or just plain labels?
11:14 domm[m] yes, I see Marc code numbers, but only a few
11:14 domm[m] so it seems to be a framework issue..
11:14 cait ok, that means you are using                                                              UseACQFrameworkForBiblioRecords
11:14 cait and then you need to readd LDR to the framework
11:14 cait ACQ
11:15 domm[m] Titel (245a) etc
11:15 cait it probably was deleted becasue it's not super pretty
11:15 cait and I'd recommend adding a default value for it
11:15 cait and maybe hide with CSS
11:15 domm[m] ok, great, thanks, so I'll fiddle there a bit
11:16 domm[m] this will probably also explain why publisher etc is stored in 260 and not in 264
11:16 cait hm not necessarily, but you can test for sure
11:16 cait possibly
11:16 domm[m] And not using UseACQFrameworkForBiblioRecords will probably be worde / a bad idea?
11:16 domm[m] worse
11:17 cait no just less flexible
11:17 * domm[m] searches docs & RTFM :-)
11:17 cait it's fixed fields and mappings then
11:18 cait it's just different, not worse
11:18 domm[m] using a framework seems for sure saner & more flexible then depending on some probably hardcoded mappins
11:18 cait it used to be a hardcoded form
11:19 cait then the pref was introduced to give it more flexibility
11:19 cait but it doesn't not have all features of the cataloguing editor yet
11:19 cait like bug 30116
11:19 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30116 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When using UseACQFrameworkForBiblioRecords  visibility settings have no effect
11:21 cait ashimema: can you finish on bug 22785?
11:21 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=22785 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Manage matches when importing through stage MARC record import
11:22 cait for 264 I'd also check your koha-2-marc-mappings for copyrightdate etc.
11:24 ashimema sure thing
11:24 cait thx, was not sure how to reproduce the last failur for Nick's follow -up
11:24 ashimema bug 30611
11:24 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30611 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Needs Signoff , Add ability to send passwordreseturl from the staff client
11:25 ashimema I've coded it up now.. I'm not sure if it's something we feel strongly enough about to push for 22.05 or not.. it kind of goes hand in hand with the welcome email tree..
11:25 ashimema well.. more the 'removal of ability to send patron emails in plain text' bug really.
11:26 ashimema it's only part of the story though.. I went the opposite way around with this one... adding the ability to automatically send it from various places is where I see if going... similarly to the imports and stuff form the welcome tree
11:27 cait it expires rahter fast, I am not sure automatic sending always makes sense if not requested by the patron
11:27 cait like yu migt import patrons outside of main hours... and then the link expires after a few hours
11:27 ashimema default from opac is 2 days.. I upped it here for staff to 5 days 😉
11:27 * ashimema had considered that exact case
11:28 cait oh isee
11:28 ashimema 🙂
11:28 ashimema I kinda wanted to move lots of code to Koha::Patron
11:28 ashimema as this is another C4 style module that just got moved to Koha:: without really adopting current practices
11:29 ashimema but I decided to keep it simple for now in case people did want to backport it to go with the plaintext removal bug
11:29 cait maybe because it was moved early
11:29 cait things have evolved
11:29 ashimema indeed
11:29 ashimema that wasn't a complaint..
11:29 ashimema more a justification for why I took the simple route on this one. 😜
11:30 ashimema there's also bug 29925.. but it's a little different
11:30 cait I am not completly sure about the feature to be honest
11:30 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=29925 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Add a 'set new password' page for patron's with expired passwords
11:30 cait i feel it might be better to teach users how to requst a new password
11:30 cait you could always send them to the page where they can request it
11:30 ashimema that's a password expired reset (and required current password to be input) rather than a recovery with a token for varification
11:30 cait and then using a short or even shorter expiry is no issue
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11:30 cait ooh
11:31 cait I haven't looked at the new expiration feature yet
11:32 ashimema we have customers who really want to send out a direct link to create password rather than making patrons jump through more hoops
11:33 ashimema aynwho.. it's coded up
11:33 cait yep
11:33 cait bbiab
11:52 domm[m] cait: thanks, works now after adding a 000 field to the ACQ Framework with a sane default value. No idea why it was deleted, probably somebody didn't like the slightly mysterious field in the acquisition forms...
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11:55 mtj hey #koha
11:56 mtj hi ashimema: still about?
11:56 ashimema hi mtj
11:57 mtj hiya :)
12:00 ashimema whats up?
12:00 ashimema and how are you?
12:02 mtj hiya.. i'm good thanks, (i just pm'd you, i think?)
12:05 ashimema 🙂
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12:46 cait the QA script exploded the patch set aain :(
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12:51 ashimema oh dear
12:51 cait this time 30291
12:52 cait bug 30291 this time
12:52 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30291 major, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Rename recalls.* column names
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13:24 cait bye #koha
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13:40 * oleonard is also here
13:41 ashimema see ya cait, have a nice weekend
13:48 oleonard I came into the office today for a change and the lights in my office are broken.
13:48 oleonard I should have brought a candelabra.
13:54 ashimema haha
13:54 ashimema magnuse see bug 30654
13:54 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30654 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Even with RabbitMQ enabled, we should poll the database for jobs at worker startup
13:55 tcohen mmm
13:55 tcohen what if rabbit is restarted
14:05 Joubu oleonard: found a bug caused by bug 30011. See the last comment
14:05 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30011 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, RESOLVED FIXED, Upgrade jQueryUI to 1.13.1 in the OPAC and staff interface
14:06 ashimema hmm.. I think if rabbit goes away the worker tries to reconnect
14:06 oleonard Joubu: There is already a bug for it, but I think it's FQA.
14:06 oleonard Bug 30514
14:06 ashimema but on the other side I think we just append to the database if we can't find rabbit
14:06 huginn Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=30514 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Error in date format check following datepicker removal
14:07 ashimema so my patch won't work for that case
14:07 ashimema darn
14:07 oleonard Joubu if you could take a look I'd be grateful. See my last comment.
14:07 ashimema no, hang on
14:07 ashimema I think that's catered for actually.
14:08 Joubu thanks, I will have a look
14:08 ashimema we check connection... so whilst rabbit is down we revert to polling by the looks.
14:08 ashimema not just at startup 🙂
14:18 tcohen ashimema: can you add a Koha::BackgrounJobs->filter_by... method?
14:19 ashimema er.. sure
14:19 tcohen thinking of later adding 'retry' status
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14:43 oleonard Anyone around who is a serials user?
14:43 tcohen I'm a serial Netflox user
14:44 tcohen haha
14:44 oleonard :P
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15:38 oleonard As far as I can tell receiving a serial issue is completely broken.
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16:15 alohabot 🎁 🐲 Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  🍭🍩🥨
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17:18 alohabot 🎁 🤡 Koha '21.11.x' packages pushed to 'koha-staging' repo  🍫🍿🍟
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17:34 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
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17:34 wahanui Congratulations!
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18:48 wahanui Congratulations!
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