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dcook |
tuxayo: I don't suppose you're still awake? |
| 05:39 |
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tuxayo |
dcook: unfortunately yes ^^" |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
hehe |
| 05:39 |
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dcook |
I don't know how you do it O_O |
| 05:40 |
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dcook |
I was wondering if you could have a look at bug 15565 and bug 21249 |
| 05:40 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Place multiple holds at once for the same record in OPAC |
| 05:40 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=21249 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Syspref to choose whether to search homebranch, holding branch or both for library groups in advanced search |
| 05:40 |
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dcook |
Aleisha and I are trying to get those and bug 15516 through |
| 05:40 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, ASSIGNED , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles |
| 05:41 |
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tuxayo |
Wasting time on other things... |
| 05:41 |
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tuxayo |
Yay, Koha stuff, thats a good use of time 😃 |
| 05:43 |
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dcook |
Nothing wrong with wasting time and don't feel obligated if you're busy! |
| 05:44 |
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dcook |
With 21249, I'm happy to do QA if someone wants to do a sign off in place of mine |
| 05:47 |
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tuxayo |
Noted, will try the 3 "tomorrow" |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
That would be awesome :) |
| 05:53 |
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dcook |
Are you on France time? |
| 06:04 |
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tuxayo |
Officially yes. But right now as I'll soon go to bed, that means I'm on Easter Island or US Mountain time ^^ |
| 06:11 |
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dcook |
hehe |
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dcook |
Fair enough. I hope you have a good sleep, tuxayo. |
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* magnuse |
waves |
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reiveune |
hello |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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ambro |
hi |
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| 09:38 |
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Joubu |
Opinions on bug 28220? |
| 09:38 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28220 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , Exception not caught when importing patrons with invalid attribute type |
| 09:39 |
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Joubu |
from the last comment: |
| 09:39 |
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Joubu |
When a new patron is imported with an invalid patron attribute we explode. When the patron's attributes are overwritten during an import, we silently ignore them. |
| 09:39 |
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Joubu |
Should we, 1. explode (skip the whole patron) in both case or 2. do the job but ignore the invalid attributes? |
| 09:54 |
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* ashimema |
contemplates |
| 09:54 |
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ashimema |
with bulk import.. are we setting an 'acting library'.. |
| 09:56 |
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ashimema |
i.e. is it 'invalid because it's not one that available at "this" library.. or is it completely invalid.. in that it doesn't exist at any library? |
| 09:57 |
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ashimema |
if it's entirely invalid I would say we should catch and skip the patron.. then list errors in the final response |
| 09:58 |
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ashimema |
it it's invalid at this branch it's a harder call... there are use cases for bulk manipulating patrons that should be library agnostic.. |
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ashimema |
cait around? |
| 10:23 |
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wahanui |
i heard cait around was cait cait1 cait2 cait3 cait4 cait5 |
| 10:23 |
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ashimema |
rofl |
| 10:23 |
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ashimema |
who added that.. it's great! |
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| 10:42 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: it seems that the historical behavior has been to skip them, that's why I am a bit reluctant to change it |
| 10:42 |
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Joubu |
skip => silently ignore the attribute but process the other data |
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| 10:59 |
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tcohen |
morning |
| 11:00 |
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tcohen |
I think we could change that behavior Joubu |
| 11:01 |
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tcohen |
specially for mandatory attributes |
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Joubu |
tcohen: can you comment on the bug please? |
| 11:47 |
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ashimema |
silently skipping is actually seen as a bug by our customers ;) |
| 11:47 |
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ashimema |
they want feedback for missing mandatory fields and things |
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| 11:48 |
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ashimema |
though.. many of them are also wanting to switch to using the API's directly, instead of the bulk import tools |
| 11:49 |
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* ashimema |
thinks bug 28261 should get the rel_20_11_candidate tag btw... it's the last missing piece, as far as I can tell, in that tree |
| 11:49 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28261 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add visual feedback on overridden pickup locations on patron's page |
| 11:49 |
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Joubu |
ashimema: 21.05 you meant? |
| 11:50 |
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Joubu |
there is also bug 28273 |
| 11:50 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28273 major, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, NEW , Multi-holds allow invalid pickup locations |
| 11:50 |
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ashimema |
oop, yes |
| 11:50 |
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ashimema |
brain is fuzzy today |
| 11:50 |
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tcohen |
I uploaded my work on 28273 to a branch |
| 11:50 |
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tcohen |
when my brain got stuck yesterday |
| 11:51 |
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ashimema |
need a hand? |
| 11:51 |
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* ashimema |
feels guilty for all the distractions he threw your way yesterday. |
| 11:51 |
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tcohen |
I'm only missing the step of validating that some titles don't have a pickup location set, and the UI should tell the staff member to fill those, or uncheck |
| 11:51 |
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tcohen |
https://gitlab.com/thekesoluti[…]28273_multi_holds |
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| 12:23 |
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magnuse |
ashimema: were you working on fines and how they are presented to the user, or am i confusing that with the cash register stuff? |
| 12:23 |
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ashimema |
I've had my fingers all over accounts |
| 12:23 |
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magnuse |
hehe |
| 12:24 |
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ashimema |
so yes if probably the short answer |
| 12:24 |
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ashimema |
what are you looking for? |
| 12:24 |
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magnuse |
someone in sweden was asking if anyone was doing anything about https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]/Account_view_RFC |
| 12:27 |
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ashimema |
ah, yes |
| 12:27 |
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ashimema |
well.. I'd love to work on it and have idea's of how it could be achieved.. |
| 12:27 |
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ashimema |
but.. |
| 12:28 |
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ashimema |
no-one here has funded it so it's kinda stuck.. |
| 12:28 |
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ashimema |
I do tiny bits towards it in my free time occasionally.. but really haven't made much headway. |
| 12:29 |
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ashimema |
if they fancied sponsoring the work I might be able to get ptfs-e to take it on... though having lost Colin recently and with FOLIO taking time it's basically just me on Koha for a while. |
| 12:30 |
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magnuse |
oh noes, no more colin? |
| 12:34 |
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ashimema |
He's retired |
| 12:34 |
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ashimema |
couple of weeks back |
| 12:35 |
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ashimema |
hence why I've got my name against allot more SIP and EDI stuff now.. scary stuff those two |
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magnuse |
ashimema: lucky you ;-) |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
:') |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
can you see any support for developing those accounts things coming out of Sweden? |
| 13:22 |
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ashimema |
it's an area close to my heart ;) |
| 13:23 |
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magnuse |
dunno, stockholm uni wanted to do something about it, but then andreas left and they had to "pause" it. but i think they were more interested in spending time than money on it... |
| 13:24 |
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magnuse |
i have mentioned your willingness to work on it :-) |
| 13:24 |
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ashimema |
thanks :) |
| 13:24 |
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magnuse |
it came up in the swedish slack channel today |
| 13:24 |
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ashimema |
oh, I hadn't realised Andreas had left, that's a shame |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
if they want to code on it, I'd be happy to help with testing/qa or guiding round the code a bit.. |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
if it were me, I'd probably base at least some of it in the rowGrouping code I used in the cash management register pages |
| 13:25 |
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ashimema |
though I'd like to switch that to using the API's to drive it. |
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tuxayo1 |
Hi #koha :) |
| 13:37 |
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ashimema |
hi tuxayo1 :) |
| 13:45 |
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oleonard |
Dev meeting in 15? |
| 13:45 |
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ashimema |
Yowsers, that's come around quick. |
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| 13:47 |
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magnuse |
gotta love translation strings like %s %s %s %s %s %s %s %s "%s %sby %s%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s" %s "%s"â |
| 13:47 |
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ashimema |
yikes |
| 13:47 |
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caroline |
I bet it says that the number of %s doesn't match |
| 13:47 |
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caroline |
(at least in that case there is only one word to translate) |
| 13:49 |
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magnuse |
yup |
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tuxayo1 |
Shall I chair? |
| 14:06 |
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oleonard |
Did everyone disappear (I did momentarily) |
| 14:06 |
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cait1 |
hm no dev meeting? |
| 14:06 |
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cait1 |
i am too late... b |
| 14:07 |
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thd |
tuxayo1: Yes of course, but maybe you should also try summoning Joubu etc. |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
sorry, I was in a meeting |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
starting now |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
#startmeeting Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021 |
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huginn |
Meeting started Wed May 5 14:07:34 2021 UTC. The chair is Joubu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
| 14:07 |
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huginn |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
| 14:07 |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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huginn |
The meeting name has been set to 'development_irc_meeting_5_may_2021' |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
#topic Introductions |
| 14:07 |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
| 14:07 |
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Joubu |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_5_May_2021 |
| 14:08 |
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Joubu |
#info Jonathan Druart |
| 14:08 |
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tuxayo |
#info tuxayo/Victor Grousset, France |
| 14:08 |
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tuxayo |
thanks :D |
| 14:08 |
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Joubu |
qa_team? |
| 14:08 |
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wahanui |
qa_team is cait, dcook, amoyano, ashimema, marcelr, kohaputti, jajm, tcohen, josef_moravec, kidclamp, khall and tuxayo |
| 14:08 |
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Joubu |
rmaints? |
| 14:08 |
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wahanui |
rmaints is probably fridolin, AndrewFH and tuxayo |
| 14:08 |
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oleonard |
#info Owen Leonard, Athens County Public Libraries, Ohio, USA |
| 14:08 |
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kidclamp |
#info Nick Clemens, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:08 |
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thd |
#info Thomas Dukleth, Agogme, New York City |
| 14:08 |
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tuxayo |
I need to make a bookmark folder with the meeting links useful to chair ^^ |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:09 |
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Joubu |
#topic Announcements |
| 14:09 |
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Topic for #koha is now Announcements (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
| 14:09 |
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cait1 |
#info Katrin Fischer, BSZ, Germany |
| 14:09 |
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Joubu |
I was in a meeting with BibLibre's sysop to get a new server for sandboxes. I have full access and will start the install very soon |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
Joubu++ |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
sandboxes++ |
| 14:10 |
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Joubu |
The goal is to make some instances available to the community to test the incoming release |
| 14:10 |
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Joubu |
biblibre++ |
| 14:10 |
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Joubu |
lds++ |
| 14:10 |
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cait1 |
sounds great |
| 14:10 |
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tuxayo |
:D |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 14:10 |
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tuxayo |
biblibre++ |
| 14:10 |
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tuxayo |
lds++ |
| 14:10 |
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cait1 |
lds++ biblibre++ Joubu++ |
| 14:10 |
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Joubu |
not a big server but scalable when needed for hackfest |
| 14:11 |
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cait1 |
will it be using the "newer" sandbox system? |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
anyone else? |
| 14:11 |
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thd |
I am about to post an update to Koha Wiki Database Migration and Upgrade scripts which will be more than an order of magnitude smaller for copying files for installation without redundancy in the archive. Sorry for anyone who might have looked previously. |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
cait1: yes |
| 14:11 |
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Joubu |
I am planning to spend a bit of time on it to fix some bugs |
| 14:12 |
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Joubu |
thd: can you remind us where you put the code please? |
| 14:12 |
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ashimema |
very nice to be spreading the load sandboxes wise.. It'll be great having that extra set of eyes on bugs and improvements to make the sandboxes all the more usable |
| 14:13 |
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tuxayo |
> spreading the load sandboxes |
| 14:13 |
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tuxayo |
+1, so there isn't much pressure if on server is down |
| 14:13 |
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thd |
I will be updating the linked archive in the bug report. |
| 14:13 |
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tuxayo |
We have an almost complete 21.11 team :D The major thing missing is an RMaint for stable |
| 14:13 |
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tuxayo |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.11 |
| 14:14 |
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Joubu |
yes, I wanted to highlight it in the next topic |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
ooh.. we're going for the full compliment I see.. |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
stable, oldstable, oldoldstable and oldoldoldstable.. |
| 14:14 |
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Joubu |
there are some "slot" still available |
| 14:14 |
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thd |
This file should be a more manageable archive in a few minutes, https://test01.agogme.com/koha[…]_upgrade_test.tgz . |
| 14:14 |
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ashimema |
not seen that for a while |
| 14:14 |
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tuxayo |
yep that looks good :) |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
we need a RMaint for 21.05 (or... I don't release it :D) |
| 14:15 |
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oleonard |
Joubu thanks for staying on for another release |
| 14:15 |
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tuxayo |
lol |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
we have 2 newcomers for the QA team |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
nugged++ |
| 14:15 |
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tuxayo |
yep, Joubu++ |
| 14:15 |
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oleonard |
Could each release maintainer move up one release and we'll drop support for 19.11 if necessary? |
| 14:15 |
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Joubu |
and... anyone interested by the new "IRC meeting facilitator" role? |
| 14:15 |
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cait1 |
Joubu: sorry got called away - then we can maybe remove documentation for the older information from the wiki, let me know and i can do an update |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
That's great to see :) |
| 14:16 |
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Joubu |
thx thd |
| 14:16 |
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cait1 |
Joubu++ nugged++ |
| 14:16 |
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tuxayo |
> Could each release maintainer move up one release |
| 14:16 |
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tuxayo |
I was thinking that we might have to do that. A bit scared by oldstable but I should survive ^^" |
| 14:16 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I guess Catalyst want to stay on 19.11 and so maintain it a bit longer |
| 14:17 |
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* oleonard |
wonders what that's about |
| 14:17 |
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cait1 |
or maybe just starting out with the oldest? |
| 14:17 |
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cait1 |
it's a good "start out" one |
| 14:17 |
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tuxayo |
> Catalyst want to stay on 19.11 |
| 14:17 |
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tuxayo |
could be |
| 14:17 |
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cait1 |
ah ok, so not sure |
| 14:17 |
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ashimema |
do biblibre utilise every release or are they a .11's only shop.. or similar |
| 14:18 |
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* ashimema |
is wondering if that's why Fridolin is sticking to the .11 |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
> maybe just starting out with the oldest |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
could bit also, since I took oldoldstable ^^" |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
> utilise every release |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
only .11 |
| 14:18 |
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Joubu |
Which "older information" are you talking about? |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
I could take on a .11, but the .05 aren't used by ptfs-e now so that would be a harder sell |
| 14:18 |
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cait1 |
we aim for .11 at the moment, but we arenot set at it |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
> that's why Fridolin is sticking to the .11 |
| 14:18 |
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tuxayo |
Yes |
| 14:19 |
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oleonard |
Everyone should alternate .11 or .05 XD |
| 14:19 |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: do you know if someone at bywater is willing to maintain 21.05? :) |
| 14:20 |
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tuxayo |
Not a secret, their upgrade to 20.11 should be in july in case that info helps |
| 14:20 |
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kidclamp |
We are discussing - Kyle or I might be able to |
| 14:20 |
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kidclamp |
will let you know ASAP |
| 14:20 |
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Joubu |
thanks kidclamp! |
| 14:20 |
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tuxayo |
Thanks for considering the thing :D |
| 14:20 |
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cait1 |
thx :) |
| 14:20 |
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cait1 |
also still need documentation and translation managers i see |
| 14:20 |
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cait1 |
caroline: maybe? *kitty eyes* |
| 14:21 |
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tuxayo |
> translation managers |
| 14:21 |
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tuxayo |
oh right 😱 |
| 14:21 |
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ashimema |
perhaps we could share it kidclamp? |
| 14:21 |
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cait1 |
(thought that would work better than puppy eyes in this case) |
| 14:21 |
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Joubu |
(but it's QA time that will be spend on RMaint.. :-/) |
| 14:21 |
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caroline |
I can do docs if no one wants to,,, I feel like I slacked off big time this cycle |
| 14:21 |
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khall_ |
#info Kyle Hall, ByWater Solutions |
| 14:21 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: not interested by the new "IRC meeting facilitator" role? |
| 14:21 |
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cait1 |
I didn't have the same feeling and still have tons to translate for 20.11 manual |
| 14:22 |
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Joubu |
or.. caroline? |
| 14:22 |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Sorry I can't take on anything new at the moment |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
> we could share it |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
The RMaint of stable? |
| 14:22 |
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ashimema |
tcohen.. is bernardo still OK doing translation management? |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
> it's QA time that will be spend on RMaint |
| 14:22 |
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tuxayo |
Indeed |
| 14:22 |
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caroline |
what is irc facilitator? |
| 14:22 |
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Joubu |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_facilitator |
| 14:22 |
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Joubu |
The community has general and development IRC meetings respectively every 1 month and 2 weeks. The goal of this new role (from 21.11 development cycle) would be to: |
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ashimema |
caroline, I could pursuade lucy to help on docs ;) |
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Joubu |
Prepare in advance Chair Keep track of the actions for the next meeting and ping individual to know the progress Make a resume of the progress of the roadmap Anticipate with the next meeting date (watch out the timezones) Run the meeting script |
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caroline |
I don't think i'm orgnized enough to do that |
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caroline |
lucy is already a great help! she's my #1 <3 |
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caroline |
if she wants to take a swing at being manager I'd be happy to let her, or we could co-manage |
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ashimema |
maybe co-manage.. I'll grab her later and see what she says :) |
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cait1 |
:) |
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ashimema |
Does Todd or anyone from KohaUS think the facilitator role might fit with their mantra? |
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cait1 |
bernardo might just need to be asked - not sure how close he follows mailing list/release schedule |
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cait1 |
Andrew maybe? |
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Joubu |
cait1: I will send him an email after the meeting |
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ashimema |
Andrew for what.. IRC Facilitator.. which Andrew? |
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Joubu |
AndrewFH |
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Joubu |
@later tell AndrewFH we all think you would be a great IRC meeting facilitator https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eting_facilitator Are you willing to try it for the next release cycle? |
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huginn |
Joubu: The operation succeeded. |
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caroline |
you have been volunteered as tribute |
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Joubu |
ok, moving on? |
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ashimema |
lol |
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* fridolin |
sorry I had netwrok issues |
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Joubu |
#topic Update from the Release Manager (21.05) |
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Topic for #koha is now Update from the Release Manager (21.05) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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Joubu |
not much to say, release is approaching, keep an eyes on the 21.05 tags. https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate |
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Joubu |
hard feature freeze ends in a couple of days |
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fridolin |
#info Fridolin Somers, Biblibre, France |
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Joubu |
#link https://frama.link/koha_bz_rel_21_05_candidate # This is the list of things you must keep an eye on for the next couple of weeks |
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Joubu |
any questions about 21.05? |
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Joubu |
#topic Updates from the Release Maintainers |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the Release Maintainers (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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fridolin |
We will release around 25/26 may, to be before 21.05 release |
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ashimema |
:) |
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fridolin |
24/25 I mean |
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fridolin |
no big problems with 20.11.x I'd say /D |
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fridolin |
:D |
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* fridolin |
will continue RMaint on this branch for next cycle |
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cait1 |
fridolin++ |
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Joubu |
#info May stable releases planned on 24/25th |
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tuxayo |
19.11 is fine |
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tuxayo |
fridolin++ |
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fridolin |
we search a Rmaint for 21.05.x right ? |
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fridolin |
https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]i/Roles_for_21.11 |
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Joubu |
yes fridolin, maybe kidclamp or khall. Or it will be you |
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tuxayo |
fridolin: yep: http://irc.koha-community.org/[…]1-05-05#i_2350959 |
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ashimema |
lol |
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Joubu |
#topic Updates from the QA team |
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Topic for #koha is now Updates from the QA team (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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cait1 |
oops, almost missd my topic |
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cait1 |
thanks to everyone doing QA the last few weeks! |
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cait1 |
still as always tons to do, please QA away with RM priorities in mind for release! |
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* ashimema |
cuaght back up the leaderboard by the end of the month |
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cait1 |
I'd also like to put a bit more focus on "oldest first" next release cycle |
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cait1 |
i have neglected the old bugs in favor of the bad bugs a bit... but it's really hard to choose, more hands should help |
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cait1 |
I hope |
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ashimema |
There's a fair few 'In discussion' on the rel_21_05 and RM priority list right now |
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ashimema |
I'm not sure how to get them moving again |
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cait1 |
maybe we could discuss some of them on irc (outside the meeting) |
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ashimema |
regarding "oldest first".. I struggle at times doing that when it often takes a while for devs to get back to queries for older ones.. it's a hard thing to juggle |
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ashimema |
yeah. lets try to get some moving after this meeting |
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ashimema |
oldest first.. I'd suggest when pikcing a bug.. it's often worthwhile poking the dev to arrange a mutually agreeable slot.. |
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Joubu |
it's quite easy for the next couple of weeks to choose, it's either bugfixes to write/test/QA |
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Joubu |
or find bugs |
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Joubu |
and you have 2 days for small enhancements |
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ashimema |
deffo the next few weeks is easy to choose |
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cait1 |
yes |
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Joubu |
moving on? |
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cait1 |
i just think out of fairness we need to avoid having stuff sittitng for too long waiting |
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cait1 |
so it's as always a matter of balance |
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ashimema |
totally |
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cait1 |
yep |
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cait1 |
moving on |
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Joubu |
#topic Status of roadmap projects |
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Topic for #koha is now Status of roadmap projects (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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Joubu |
(insert void here) |
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Joubu |
#topic Actions from last meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
| 14:38 |
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Joubu |
* ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) |
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ashimema |
ES Tests - Assume that's not moved :( |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=27695 minor, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Pushed to stable , Fix style of messages on Elasticsearch configuration page |
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Joubu |
did you? |
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ashimema |
oh, ok |
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Joubu |
ashimema: nothing has moved |
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ashimema |
no, I think I need to regroup on writing that beggining of next cycle at this point |
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ashimema |
been trying to fit in as much QA as possible instead. |
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ashimema |
so please postpone it one last time :(! |
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Joubu |
do I postpone it? |
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Joubu |
#action ashimema Write a coding guideline to clarify our message types: 'alert' vs 'error' (context of bug 27695) |
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ashimema |
yes please |
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Joubu |
* kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC |
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Joubu |
I don't think I saw it on the list |
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ashimema |
roadmap wise.. the slips stuff has moved a little :).. the accounts slips all now run through GetPreparredLetter.. that was my starting point ;) |
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ashimema |
hmm.. I don't remember seeing such an email either |
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Joubu |
ashimema: I am abandoning the roadmap for 21.05 as it's too late. But will start a 21.11 one in the next 2,3 of weeks. Keep in mind your projects for 21.11 please |
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Joubu |
we will group them and form new action groups |
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ashimema |
ta |
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Joubu |
my goal for 21.11 is to work/help only things that are in the roadmap |
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Joubu |
#action kidclamp Ask the ML for additional info about how to implement opt-out for notices. One idea would be to have "My message" at the OPAC (postponed) |
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Joubu |
#topic General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) |
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Topic for #koha is now General development discussion (trends, ideas, ...) (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
| 14:42 |
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Joubu |
something else? |
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Joubu |
#topic Set time of next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Set time of next meeting (Meeting topic: Development IRC meeting 5 May 2021) |
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Joubu |
#info Next meeting: 19 May 2021, 14 UTC |
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3 |
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1 |
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cait1 |
:) |
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cait1 |
go |
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Joubu |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software https://koha-community.org |
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huginn |
Meeting ended Wed May 5 14:43:22 2021 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn |
Minutes: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]-05-05-14.07.html |
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huginn |
Minutes (text): https://meetings.koha-communit[…]1-05-05-14.07.txt |
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huginn |
Log: https://meetings.koha-communit[…]05-14.07.log.html |
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cait1 |
Joubu++ |
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fridolin |
Keep in mind ES7 https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25439 |
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huginn |
Bug 25439: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , [Omnibus] Prepare Koha to ElasticSearch 7 - ES7 |
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tuxayo |
Joubu++ and thanks all :) |
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fridolin |
i'll try to work on that |
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oleonard |
Joubu++ |
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fridolin |
to ES7 and behond ... |
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fridolin |
Joubu++ |
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ashimema |
bug 25449 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make itemtype mandatory by default |
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ashimema |
did you have a response for Phil Joubu? |
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ashimema |
personally.. I think the code here is a good first step.. |
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tuxayo |
Thanks fridolin if ES 8 comes out, ES will be unsuported |
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tuxayo |
*ES 6 will be unsuported |
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ashimema |
and we might want to followup with stricter restrictions around that code as subsequent bugs |
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Joubu |
ashimema: What's his question? |
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ashimema |
basically he says it's not good enough to just add the rule. |
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ashimema |
as those rules aren't enforced strictly enough. |
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tuxayo |
fridolin: still no sign of version 8 alpha. https://github.com/elastic/elasticsearch/tags |
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tuxayo |
When that will begin. There should be around 6 months before the release. According to a dev on the ES forum. |
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Joubu |
is his suggestion to make 942 mandatory? |
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ashimema |
hmm.. I think it might be yes |
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* ashimema |
is re-reading the comment |
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Joubu |
"which would be a huge behavior change" |
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Joubu |
sounds like it would not be a good idea |
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ashimema |
mmm |
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Joubu |
so basically I don't understand what Phil clearly suggests and I think the patch is correct, at least in a first step |
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ashimema |
I agree.. ok.. I'll suggest this is the first step and he should detail his requests as followup bugs |
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Joubu |
I think cait1's opinion is needed on that one |
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fridolin |
tuxayo i've mailled my boss, saying i want to be on that |
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ashimema |
grr.. why did bug 14957 not move this cycle.. I spent ages working through it :(.. |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=14957 new feature, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Failed QA , Write protecting MARC fields based on source of import |
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cait1 |
because it got stuck on followups |
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cait1 |
it makes me sad too |
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cait1 |
where do you need me? |
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cait1 |
i am against 942$c mandatory |
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ashimema |
cait1, Joubu wants your throughts on bug 25449 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25449 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart+koha, Needs Signoff , Make itemtype mandatory by default |
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cait1 |
because without bug 14957 ... we can't keep it on overwrites |
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cait1 |
it woudl be messy |
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cait1 |
i have reading Phil's commen ton my list, but didn't get to it yet :( |
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cait1 |
sorry, i have to leave - meeting in RL |
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ashimema |
okies |
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ashimema |
cait1.. |
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ashimema |
I'm doing the follow-ups for 14757 myself.. just about to push them up |
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ashimema |
do you think you'll have time to do a final quick test this evening perhaps? |
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reiveune |
bye |
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caroline |
Hi all! For RegEx splitting rules, does anyone know how to cut after 9 characters? |
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caroline |
Ex. 971.42805092 C669r Should become 971.42805\n092\nC669r |
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caroline |
I tried s/(\s|.{9})/\n/g (as per the regex cheatsheet here https://regexr.com/) but it cuts at every 9 |
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caroline |
(the character 9) |
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tcohen |
caroline have you tried 9 dots? |
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caroline |
yes and it didn't like it lol! |
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caroline |
anyway, I realize it's doing a search and replace... I don't want to replace the 9 characters by a new line... |
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caroline |
maybe I can try telling it to add a space after 9 characters and then replacing the spaces by new lines... |
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tcohen |
what are you trying to do, and where? |
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tcohen |
he |
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caroline |
In Administration > Classification sources > Splitting rules |
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caroline |
https://koha-community.org/man[…]n-splitting-rules |
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caroline |
Joubu had provided examples in the bz which I copied in the manual |
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caroline |
s/\s/\n/g = split on spaces |
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tcohen |
right |
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tcohen |
if you wanted to add \n there, you need a capture group |
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tcohen |
a way to refer to what matched |
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tcohen |
like in |
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tcohen |
s/(^.{9})/$1\n/ |
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tcohen |
that site is not that useful |
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caroline |
tcohen: it works! I have to add the space too, but yay!! |
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tcohen |
great |
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tcohen |
you can specify several regexps in a rule, right? |
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caroline |
and I can add two (I had forgotten) |
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caroline |
yes!! *cries* |
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tcohen |
https://snipboard.io/oVw6Hg.jpg |
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tcohen |
so each thing you surround with parenthesis |
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tcohen |
is a capture group |
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tcohen |
whatever has matched with the expression inside of it |
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tcohen |
can be referred to, using $# |
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tcohen |
on the right side |
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caroline |
https://snipboard.io/Wa1wA9.jpg |
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tcohen |
where # is the number of the capture buffer |
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caroline |
tcohen++ (++++) |
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tcohen |
the order in which they are written |
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tcohen |
caroline++ # this stuff aint easy |
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marie-luce |
tcohen++ |
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caroline |
I will add this new one to the manual so we can refer to it later |
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tcohen |
^ <- means starts with |
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caroline |
I knew about ^, and I thought $ meant end of line |
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tcohen |
that's correct |
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tcohen |
on the first part of the expression |
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tcohen |
where you are trying to match |
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caroline |
which was why I didn't understand this example s/^(J|K)\n/$1 / |
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caroline |
but now it makes more sense |
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tcohen |
you could have |
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tcohen |
s/^(.{9})\s(.{2})\s(.)$/$3 $2 $1/ |
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tcohen |
and it would revert the terms |
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tcohen |
silly example |
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caroline |
this rule would result in <everything else><2 following characters><9 first characters>? |
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tcohen |
it is missing an asterisk, but yes |
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tcohen |
exactly |
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tcohen |
spaces between them |
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tcohen |
also |
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tcohen |
\s(.)$ should've been \s(.*)$ |
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tcohen |
but I typoed |
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caroline |
+1 |
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tcohen |
it was only to showcase you can arrange things at will |
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ashimema |
Regex is fun |
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ashimema |
regex101.com is a great tool to play with bte |
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ashimema |
I test lots of regex's using it |
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tcohen |
+1 |
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caroline |
cool! I usually use https://regexr.com/ but I will give yours a try too |
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ashimema |
Probably similar.. regexr is me to me.. still try it tomorrow 🙂 |
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ashimema |
Love the team here.. people at so friendly and willing to help |
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ashimema |
tcohen++ |
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caroline |
thanks again tcohen++! I'm adding your contribution to the manual as we speak :) |
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tcohen |
hehe |
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ashimema |
caroline++ #documenting it for future |
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tcohen |
have a good one everyone, taking off |
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tuxayo |
🛫 |
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aleisha |
hello |
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wahanui |
hey, aleisha |
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o/ |
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aleisha around? |
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Oh, I see, dcook pinged me about bug 15516 it half a day ago but in the meantime it went back to needing work. I'll just spy on it for now ^^ |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles |
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And the patch landed just now! |
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hi yes im here! |
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yep i think dcook was keen to get bug 15516 and bug 15565 tested |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15516 new feature, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Needs Signoff , Allow to place a hold on first available item from a group of titles |
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Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15565 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, aleisha, Signed Off , Place multiple holds at once for the same record in OPAC |
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tuxayo++ |
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you're a champion |
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aleisha++ |
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