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dcook |
@later tell oleonard with bug 27497 is that the one that cait screenshotted? |
| 03:22 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:23 |
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dcook |
@later tell oleonard lol or was it that one from comment 21? haha |
| 03:23 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
| 03:55 |
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dcook |
@later tell oleonard figured out bug 27565 but it's more a question of time/effort commitment than smartness at this point |
| 03:55 |
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huginn |
dcook: The operation succeeded. |
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reiveune |
hello |
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fridolin |
hi tehre |
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alex_a |
Bonjour |
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sophie_m |
bonjour |
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wahanui |
kia ora, sophie_m |
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| 08:45 |
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swebshet |
Hello Guys, I just installed koha 20.11 version on ubuntu 20.04 which looks fine and I just added an electronic file(pdf) by setting upload.pl plugin to 856$u subfield and I was able to see Online resources: Click here to access online . How ever when I try to open the file I was looking this error We can’t connect to the server at cgi-bin. |
| 08:49 |
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cait1 |
hm sorry, not sure what that could be |
| 08:50 |
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cait1 |
is it a complete url with http etc? |
| 08:55 |
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swebshet |
http://cgi-bin/koha/opac-retri[…]e3be31c8313986147 |
| 08:55 |
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swebshet |
Here is the link |
| 09:00 |
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Joubu |
check the opacbaseurl system preference |
| 09:07 |
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swebshet |
I just updates the OPACBaseURL ->http://127.0.0.1 |
| 09:11 |
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| 09:14 |
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swebshet |
Still I coudn't solve the problem.Is there something that needs to be done on the ownership of the uploads folder chown -R www-data:www-data /var/lib/koha/..../uploads/ |
| 09:17 |
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Joubu |
it should be owned by the koha user |
| 09:33 |
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fridolin |
wahanui: i'm i online ? |
| 09:33 |
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wahanui |
fridolin: no idea |
| 09:33 |
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fridolin |
thanks |
| 09:36 |
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magnuse |
shouldn't it be possible to update the attribute/value of a patron attribute, without first deleting and then adding a new attribute with the same code? |
| 09:36 |
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pastebot |
"magnuse" at 127.0.0.1 pasted "examples of trying to update a patron attribute" (77 lines) at http://paste.koha-community.org/183 |
| 09:37 |
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magnuse |
what am i doing wrong? |
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| 09:43 |
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magnuse |
kia ora cait |
| 09:43 |
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Joubu |
magnuse: your script looks ok |
| 09:43 |
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Joubu |
did you try on master? |
| 09:43 |
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Joubu |
I've created a patron attribute X (non repeatable), then run your script twice |
| 09:43 |
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Joubu |
and the patron's attribute got created then updated |
| 09:44 |
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Joubu |
(the first version) |
| 09:48 |
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magnuse |
Joubu: i'm on 20.05.06 - maybe that is too old? |
| 09:49 |
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magnuse |
thanks for testing! |
| 09:49 |
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Joubu |
there have been some changes in master recently, maybe it's a bug that got fixed |
| 10:22 |
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oleonard |
Hi all |
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| 10:24 |
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henryb |
Hi everyone |
| 10:25 |
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oleonard |
Hi henryb |
| 10:26 |
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henryb |
Hi oleonard! |
| 10:26 |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
| 10:26 |
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henryb |
How do we create coding guidelines and qa tests? I think it would be a good idea to add some more accessibility guidelines to make sure new features are accessible |
| 10:27 |
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henryb |
Is the process: propose a guideline at the dev meeting and then .... someone magically creates a test? |
| 10:27 |
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henryb |
Can anyone create a test or just joubu, ashimema etc? |
| 10:27 |
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henryb |
I have no idea how to make tests but would be happy to learn |
| 10:29 |
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oleonard |
Guidelines are generally voted on in meetings |
| 10:29 |
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oleonard |
...and then QA tests are created if possible (usually by Joubu) |
| 10:29 |
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henryb |
I'm thinking something similar to the ones used by Deque's Axe browser extension: https://dequeuniversity.com/rules/axe/4.1 (obviously we'll need to chose our own relevant rules) |
| 10:30 |
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henryb |
Thanks oleonard. So the guidelines come first and then we worry about the tests later |
| 10:30 |
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henryb |
Makes sense |
| 10:31 |
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henryb |
I haven't looked at the existing tests yet, so some of the stuff I'm thinking of (Requiring labels, alt-text etc.) might already be covered |
| 10:31 |
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henryb |
*tests and guidelines |
| 10:36 |
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oleonard |
henryb: Accessibility issues are the kind of thing that I would say doesn't need to be in the rules before it can trigger a failed QA. The problem is catching them during testing. |
| 10:38 |
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henryb |
Ok that's good. I thought it might make it easier for people to meet accessibility if there were guidelines (assuming devs read the coding guidelines?) |
| 10:38 |
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henryb |
And automating the tests might make it easier to catch the issues |
| 10:39 |
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henryb |
(although automated tests apparently only catch X% of accessibility issues) |
| 10:39 |
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oleonard |
I get the impression the coding guidelines are more often used after the fact, to point people to in response to a failed patch. |
| 10:39 |
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oleonard |
But I don't really know. |
| 10:41 |
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henryb |
So do you think it's worth me proposing some guidelines or not? e.g. on semantically ordered headings since we've had a few bugs on that recently? |
| 10:42 |
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henryb |
I suppose I can propose them and everyone can vote them down if they're unnecessary/wrong! :D |
| 10:43 |
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oleonard |
Definitely worth proposing guidelines |
| 10:45 |
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| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
They're here henryb |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
I even started an Accessibility section recently |
| 10:45 |
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ashimema |
Yeah, they've generally used as something the QA person can point the finger at when we fail someone's patch.. though they're not a hard requirement for us to fail things |
| 10:46 |
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ashimema |
Devs are encouraged to look at them and adding new one's, as oleonard said, requires a vote at a dev meeting and so it gets minuted and publicised minimally when we do.. which is nice. |
| 10:46 |
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oleonard |
Yeah the publicity aspect is good |
| 10:46 |
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ashimema |
I'd suggest adding directly to that page with 'DRAFT' in the title for the guideline you're writing.. |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
then draw attention to it at a dev meeting by adding it to the agenda and we'll all agree it I'm sure. :) |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
then Joubu or I will attempt to write a test so QA people catch them automatically.. |
| 10:47 |
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henryb |
Ok thanks ashimema and oleonard! |
| 10:47 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 10:47 |
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* ashimema |
is happy to see things getting added there.. |
| 10:48 |
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* ashimema |
should probably read all the guidelines again.. I bet some are outdated |
| 10:48 |
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henryb |
Oh and of course the next dev meeting is TOMORROW... :O |
| 10:48 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 10:48 |
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ashimema |
they're regular.. ;) |
| 10:48 |
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ashimema |
so don't strees :P |
| 10:49 |
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swebshet |
I can't view a file that was uploaded ->http://cgi-bin/koha/opac-retri[…]e3be31c8313986147 |
| 10:49 |
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oleonard |
henryb: Also, everyone will approve anything you suggest :D |
| 10:49 |
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swebshet |
We can’t connect to the server at cgi-bin. |
| 10:49 |
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swebshet |
an error message |
| 10:50 |
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ashimema |
oh.. also worth mentioning.. just adding a guidelines doesn't mean it'll get retrospectively applied.. if it's a change rather than just a clarification.. we'll need to draw up a bug tree to get it all fixed.. and try and find some motivation to get someone to take it on ;) |
| 10:50 |
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ashimema |
hehe.. yeah.. the approval thing is a bit of a formality really.. I can't see I've ever seen anything get voted against.. sometimes discussed and improved a little.. but never outright kicked back |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
running for accessibility advocate again next cycle henryb ?.. |
| 10:51 |
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ashimema |
might be nice to reach out and see if Wainui wants to join you ;) |
| 10:51 |
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* ashimema |
bets he just spelt her name wrong |
| 10:52 |
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henryb |
I think Wainui has already signed up! |
| 10:52 |
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ashimema |
Oh nice one! |
| 10:52 |
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henryb |
I'd like to but I need to have an 'internal discussion' before I can commit |
| 10:52 |
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ashimema |
understood |
| 10:53 |
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henryb |
Although I'd like to be involved either way so it would probably just mean I did more in my own time |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
if you're anything like me there's two.. one with the boss boss.. and one with the other boss (if you get my meaning) ;) |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 10:53 |
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ashimema |
I have a very understanding other half :P |
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* oleonard |
wonders if we have an established way to format file size information |
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| 12:55 |
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oleonard |
So some file uploads are added with some kind of default internal category... |
| 12:55 |
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oleonard |
...or is that my old data... These files look very old... |
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oleonard |
khall here? |
| 13:26 |
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oleonard |
khall: Bug 28064 |
| 13:26 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=28064 major, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Passed QA , Transits are not created at check in despite user responding 'Yes, print slip' to the prompt |
| 13:26 |
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cait1 |
fridolin++ |
| 13:26 |
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khall |
thanks oleonard! I thought that we'd found that before! |
| 13:40 |
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caroline |
hi all! |
| 13:40 |
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caroline |
back from many days of training! |
| 13:41 |
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cait1 |
online or on site? |
| 13:41 |
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cait1 |
and welcome back caroline :) |
| 13:41 |
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caroline |
online |
| 13:41 |
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cait1 |
i figured out it's at elast equally exhausting for me |
| 13:42 |
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caroline |
I find it's harder to gauge the rections and make sure eveybody understands |
| 13:43 |
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caroline |
on-site, I can usually tell someone doesn't understand when I see their face |
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| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
silly question.. |
| 14:01 |
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wahanui |
silly question.. is there anywhere in the UI where you can 'forgive' a charge? |
| 14:01 |
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cait1 |
caroline: very true |
| 14:01 |
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ashimema |
can you cancel a biblio level hold |
| 14:01 |
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cait1 |
and you can stand behind them and help, i miss that |
| 14:02 |
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ashimema |
ah yes.. they handle it |
| 14:04 |
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cait1 |
ashimema: yes? |
| 14:04 |
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cait1 |
would be bad if you ocudln't, but it might depend on status, you can't in the opac once waiting etc. |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
mm |
| 14:09 |
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ashimema |
I'm digging through bug 25711 |
| 14:09 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=25711 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, stalkernoid, Needs Signoff , Add ability to define expiredpickup charge for patron category and item type |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
somehow, I feel like logically we shouldn't end up with an ExpireReservesMaxPickupDelayCharge if the item isn't waiting already.. |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
and.. if the item is waiting.. we've selected an item |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
so we can reduce down some of the logic in that bug somewhat.. |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
I think |
| 14:16 |
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oleonard-away |
wahanui: forget silly question.. |
| 14:16 |
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wahanui |
oleonard-away, I didn't have anything matching silly question |
| 14:16 |
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oleonard-away |
wahanui: forget silly question.. |
| 14:16 |
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wahanui |
oleonard-away: I forgot silly question.. |
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oleonard |
sneaky space |
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reiveune |
bye |
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| 15:34 |
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ashimema |
anyone out there fancy helping me to update https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]rt_Bibliographics at some point.. and perhaps porting that info to the manual? |
| 15:35 |
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henryb |
Sorry, my head hurts just thinking about it! |
| 15:35 |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 15:35 |
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ashimema |
it needs a pretty hard core cataloguer ;) |
| 15:36 |
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ashimema |
I wrote allot of it in a deep dive |
| 15:36 |
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ashimema |
back in 2015 apparently.. lol |
| 15:36 |
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ashimema |
I think things have improved since then.. but I'm not entirely sure.. lol |
| 15:45 |
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cait1 |
i always link to your desriptions when asked about it :) |
| 15:45 |
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cait1 |
no change since then i think |
| 15:53 |
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caroline |
I think you should ask Heather |
| 15:53 |
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caroline |
she's a hardocre cataloguer and actually likes that |
| 15:54 |
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caroline |
kind of stuff |
| 15:54 |
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cait1 |
good idea |
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ashimema |
hehe |
| 16:16 |
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ashimema |
cool |
| 16:17 |
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ashimema |
any thoughts on my final comment on bug 24023 cait? |
| 16:17 |
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huginn |
Bug https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=24023 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, ASSIGNED , Add ability to create bundles of items |
| 16:18 |
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* ashimema |
isn't sure how he ended up back in this land.. suddenly appears to be a few bugs around this stuff moving along.. stuff for 003 handling.. stuff for 'collections' as another type of multi-part resource.. and stuff for displaying component parts more nicely.. cool |
| 16:21 |
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ashimema |
right.. I'm offski.. time for a cycle whilst the sun is still shining :) |
| 16:21 |
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ashimema |
have a good one #koha |
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ccordova |
hi, |
| 23:22 |
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ccordova |
Can't call method "get_effective_marcorgcode" on an undefined value at /usr/share/koha/intranet/cgi-bin/cataloguing/value_builder/marc21_orgcode.pl line 31. |
| 23:23 |
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ccordova |
any idea of ​​this error when trying to edit this record |
| 23:26 |
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ccordova |
koha 20.11.04.000 |
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ccordova |
this error occurred when editing and importing a record by z.3950 |
