IRC log for #koha, 2020-03-31

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06:38 reiveune hello
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06:59 alex_a Bonjour
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07:18 cait2 good morning #koha
07:18 magnuse good morning cait1 and cait2
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08:11 ashimema[m] ptfs-e sandboxes now support mailer bugs
08:11 ashimema[m] :)
08:11 cait2 ashimema[m]++
08:13 ashimema bing
08:22 magnuse bong
08:22 cait2 ping?
08:22 ashimema !bang
08:22 AnnaBoten There is no hunt right now! You can start a hunt with the 'start' command
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08:50 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Fix Object.t - handle correct RaiseError and PrintError <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]5403b5a578b4f0d01>
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09:01 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 23463: (follow-up 3) Fix timestamp default value <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]873f2eb6644bad64f>
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11:11 oleonard Hi all
11:21 mtj hey #koha, the packages are up
11:22 mtj sorry about the ateness
11:22 mtj oops, freudian slip
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11:26 cait2 mtj++
11:27 cait2 thx for being our packaging manager :)
11:27 davidnind mtj++
11:27 mtj ...my pkg email to koha-list is 'held for moderation', should arrive soon
11:27 mtj my pleasure :)
11:28 mtj hows everyone doing?
11:29 mtj nz is a bit strange atm, hey davidnind
11:29 cait2 working from home, doing ok, still allowed outside
11:29 mtj cait2: same here
11:30 mtj i had heard that cycling in france is not allowed :/
11:30 davidnind hey mtj, hope you are surviving the lockdown okay
11:31 mtj yep, im doing pretty good thanx
11:32 cait2 going out alone, 2 people or househould groups is ok here
11:32 cait2 but playground etc are all locked up
11:33 mtj ive been doing some sourdough baking and water kefir too
11:33 cait2 oh nice
11:33 cait2 late night chocolate brownie baking for me.... but i am planning coconut cake currently
11:34 mtj water kefir sounds a bit weird... but is really delicious
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11:34 mtj cait2: they both sound yummy :p
11:35 mtj hmm, how do you make coconut cake?
11:36 mtj coconut flakes on the outside?... or inside?
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11:40 oleonard Interesting, mtj, I'd never heard of water kefir before!
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11:41 mtj oleonard: i discovered it only a few weeks ago.. its quite bizzare (and delicious)
11:43 mtj it gets very fizzy... perhaps like an antacid (alka-selzer?)
11:43 oleonard mtj: Did you find the recipe online? I'd be interested in seeing the one you like
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11:45 mtj i ordered some 'grains' online... and they multiply
11:47 mtj we decided it tastes like fizzy lychee ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee
11:48 mtj but you can favour it with anything, lemon, lime, grapefruit, mango, orange, apple, cranberry, rhubarb etc
11:48 cait2 mtj: the recipe i have been eying is for a dough with buttermilk and caramlized/crust of coconut on top
11:49 mtj ^ approve :)
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11:57 mtj cait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2rTI91rL38
11:57 corilynn I'm going to make an olive oil cake tonight, cait2 :)
11:58 cait so people are really baking more .)
11:58 mtj i have seen someone make a similar chocolate cake, but using coconut 'flesh' rather than avocado
11:58 corilynn https://cooking.nytimes.com/re[…]86-olive-oil-cake
11:58 oleonard I saw a sign outside a grocery store yesterday that said "We have meat, flour, and yeast!"
11:58 oleonard Not the usual selling points
11:59 corilynn lol
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11:59 corilynn I mailed a friend of mine yeast
11:59 cait toilet paper?
11:59 cait i still got some dried yeast... but should probably not say that publicly
12:00 cait in the organic super market today there was a run on tinned beans and rice
12:00 cait might be people got enough pasta now
12:00 corilynn lots of people thinking long term
12:01 corilynn my kids (18) are doing all the shopping. They haven't found rice in a week (but we're picky about the kinds)
12:01 oleonard Wow corilynn 18 kids is a lot ;)
12:02 corilynn lol
12:02 corilynn they are 18 years old
12:02 corilynn I'm not sending a 4 year old out to do my shopping
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12:03 corilynn I always talk about my kid doing things and people look at me funny b/c they can't believe I have kid in college
12:05 mtj corilynn: im v. curious to hear how the olive oil cake goes..
12:05 corilynn I've made it a few times, it's heavenly.
12:05 mtj ...looks a bit like an almond flour cake recipe i know
12:06 mtj almond flour cake with orange
12:06 ashimema mtj, your alive, yeay
12:06 ashimema Thanks for packaging
12:06 mtj hi ashimema, no probs :)
12:07 * ashimema is doing less baking at the moment.. flour is hard to come by.. I have everything else but we're making our flour supplies last
12:07 ashimema Those cakes look great
12:08 ashimema What's the difference between kafir and kombucha
12:09 ashimema Aha, tea based Vs grain based
12:09 ashimema But basically the same process by the looks
12:09 ashimema Interesting
12:11 mtj im not sure that the water kefir "grains" are actually grains either..
12:11 oleonard They look like magic crystals in the pictures
12:11 mtj https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibicos
12:13 mtj ..they feel/taste a bit like blobs of agar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agar
12:13 mtj but they dont really have a taste
12:14 mtj it sounds weird and horrible... but tastes great! :)
12:16 magnuse Overdue notice/status triggers - if you tick both "email" and "print" both will be sent? and if you tick of only "email" what will happen for a patron that does not have email? nothing, or a print message?
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12:17 mtj magnuse: hmm, i guess.. nothing
12:17 tcohen morning
12:19 mtj magnuse: in that situation, you might need to make 'email' a required field
12:20 magnuse yeah, but there might be patrons who do not have email or do not want to use it for the library stuff
12:20 magnuse hm, i guess maybe koha is geared more towards individual settings than broad defaults that "do the right thing" for all kinds of patrons
12:20 Joubu magnuse: if both checked, both sent. If both checked and no email, only print sent. If email checked and no email, print sent
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12:21 magnuse Joubu: ah, that sounds better
12:22 Joubu in the latter, maybe it's print generated to the library, not to the patron
12:22 magnuse yeah, you must run gather_print_notices.pl and process the output
12:24 mtj ...printing sounds better than nothing, a good choice :)
12:30 magnuse ...and if you check off both sms and email? are both sent, if the patron has an email and smsalertnumber?
12:30 magnuse the manual is very quiet on this ;-)
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12:31 marcelr hi #koha
12:32 marcelr oleonard: if you can, please have a look at bug 25022
12:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25022 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display problem in authority editor with repeatable field
12:33 oleonard Sure
12:33 Joubu yes magnuse, but print is only generated if none have been sent
12:34 Joubu and bug 23411
12:34 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=23411 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Pushed to master , SMS messages sent as print should not fall back to 'email'
12:36 ashimema The code round there isn't all that clear either magnuse.  😛
12:38 cait magnuse: i think email to the library - the old way
12:38 cait you know, that attached email with the texts for people without email addresses
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12:42 caroline hello everyone!
12:43 oleonard Hi caroline
12:43 cait hi caroline .)
12:43 cait we just talked cake :)
12:43 caroline aw shucks, I missed it
12:43 oleonard Summary: All the cake
12:43 caroline I agree
12:44 ashimema Cake
12:44 magnuse cait: without running gather_print_notices.pl?
12:44 cait yes
12:44 cait the old way
12:44 cait not as pretty probably
12:45 magnuse wow, there are so many possible variations in this area...
12:49 Joubu bug 5158
12:49 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]w_bug.cgi?id=5158 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, camins, ASSIGNED , Koha needs its own cookie, ice cream, and fudge flavors
12:52 tcohen :-D
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14:05 oleonard I wonder if there's any reason for the basic MARC editor and the authorities editor not to share the same code for the editor form
14:07 cait it#s probably 'historical'
14:09 * oleonard took a wrong turn investigating Bug 25025 and is trying to get back on track
14:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25025 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, NEW , Drag-and-drop cover image upload
14:09 oleonard No not that one
14:10 oleonard Bug 25022
14:10 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25022 minor, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Display problem in authority editor with repeatable field
14:10 * oleonard always seems to find a "nuclear option" for fixing bugs
14:12 ashimema lol
14:12 ashimema I often end up doing that too oleonard
14:12 * cait can see that in both of you
14:12 ashimema I never intended to completely refactor accounts when i started ;)
14:12 cait or transfers? ;)
14:12 cait or... the email reply to stuff?
14:12 cait not complaining, just noticing :)
14:13 oleonard It's a difficult balance... Doing a simple fix can be yet another band-aid on a real problem...
14:18 ashimema someone has to do it 😉 :P
14:18 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Set unsafe only if RaiseError is not set <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8c4ae581b63a90ee7>
14:18 * oleonard finds the right band-aid
14:19 marcelr oleonard++
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15:15 reiveune bye
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16:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Errors are no longer logged by default (!) <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]63b4d508f656e940c>
16:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: execute reports in an eval <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4b3313c8827a88402>
16:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Fix Koha/Patrons.t <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]52db5bfa1190d916e>
16:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Make the DBD error regex less strict <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]712d1cad8ab0102d9>
16:51 huginn News from kohagit: Bug 22001: Add the DBI error message <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]de9f3e6b3f895e258>
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17:17 oleonard Joubu I hope my comment on Bug 25007 makes sense
17:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25007 normal, P5 - low, ---, lucas, Signed Off , AmazonCoverImages doesnt check for ISBN in details.tt
17:27 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:27 wahanui Congratulations!
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17:28 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
17:28 wahanui Congratulations!
17:28 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D9_MDB_Latest build #224: FIXED in 35 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]9_MDB_Latest/224/
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18:01 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:01 wahanui Congratulations!
18:01 koha-jenkins Project Koha_Master_D10 build #167: FIXED in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_D10/167/
18:11 tcohen is log4perl working at all?
18:14 koha-jenkins Yippee, build fixed!
18:14 wahanui Congratulations!
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19:17 * ashimema has never actually used the log4perl stuff
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20:15 cait Joubu++ thx a lot!
20:18 rangi morning
20:18 cait morning rangi
20:32 oleonard Hi
20:32 wahanui niihau, oleonard
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22:17 oleonard Patch submitted on Bug 25031. Testing would be very much appreciated!
22:17 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=25031 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , Improve handling of multiple covers on the biblio detail page in the staff client
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