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Jeddah |
Sir i would like to ask po how we can avail KOHA po? |
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Jeddah |
thank you po. |
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Jeddah |
Our school is open last year so I would like to use KOHA po sana. |
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marcelr |
hi #koha |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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magnuse |
@seen drojf |
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reiveune |
hello |
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wahanui |
que tal, reiveune |
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Bonjour |
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Archie^ |
The overdues module really takes a LOT of time to load :/ |
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ashimema |
overdues module.. what do you mean? |
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ashimema |
`/cgi-bin/koha/circ/overdue.pl` |
| 07:43 |
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ashimema |
loads almost instantly for me |
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calire |
anyone know why I would get 'fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer when doing a git pull on master? |
| 07:45 |
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ashimema |
it can be a transient issue dependant on git server load ocassionally |
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ashimema |
I'd just try again in a few minutes |
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Archie^ |
Circulation -> overdues. I'm pressing it and it loads forever |
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calire |
ashimema: thanks |
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ashimema |
if you're really stuck try a mirror |
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ashimema |
;) |
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calire |
that is above my knowledge leves ;) |
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ashimema |
I would have suggested the gitlab one.. but it's failing to mirror at the moment :( |
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calire |
*level |
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ashimema |
rangi recommends https://repo.or.cz/koha.git/ |
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ashimema |
so.. I have the followup for my setup |
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ashimema |
https://paste.debian.net/1082294/ |
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ashimema |
calire: ^ |
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ashimema |
actually, I re-wrote what I have just for you... as I have loads of remotes setup which you wouldn't need |
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ashimema |
but the basic idea hold.. I use the 'lower traffic mirror' for git pulls and assign that as 'origin'.. and I have 'upstream' setup to the community hosted site just in case the mirror goes down (and because as rmaint I 'push' to upstream) |
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Archie^ |
Ya i'm getting Proxy Error every time i'm trying to execute overdues from circulation module |
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calire |
ashimema thanks, I'll take a look :) |
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ashimema |
https://paste.debian.net/1082295/ is better (I had a typo in the original paste, sorry) |
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paxed |
hm. where's the data for biblio-table inserted? |
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ashimema |
@later tell wizzyrea I found the error in bug 22610.. it's the confusing nature of the sip_emulator parameters ;) |
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huginn` |
ashimema: The operation succeeded. |
| 10:42 |
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Archie_ |
ok so are you telling me there is NO way to modify how and where search works? |
| 10:42 |
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Archie_ |
we are getting constant feedback from librarians that they don't need to see items in libraries on the other side of the country |
| 10:44 |
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Archie_ |
so the question is: how "modifyable" is koha in a sense that, can i do it by plugin or do i need to modify search itself ? |
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ashimema |
have you not already been given a raft of answers for this Archie_ |
| 10:48 |
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Archie_ |
all i got from magnuse that i can separate it on OPAC side and thats about it |
| 10:48 |
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Archie_ |
so i'm not really sure how plugins work in koha and what are the restrictions / possabilities here |
| 10:50 |
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ashimema |
Koha is open source.. you can contribute to it either directly or through plugins.. if the plugin system isn't extensive enough for you're needs you can submit core patches to extend the plugin hooks easily enough too |
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magnuse |
plugin capabilities are not well documented, i'm afraid, but you can get an idea by looking at this sample plugin: https://github.com/bywatersolu[…]ns/KitchenSink.pm no plugin-capabilities for search yet, though |
| 10:52 |
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magnuse |
does the IndependentBranches syspref affect search? i don't remember... |
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ashimema |
I am not a trainer, I am a developer and as such I haven't given you much advice there as I'm not in possession of that information without going and reading the manual or the code to figure it out.. I'm pretty confident you can limit searches to holding branches in both opac and staff clients though |
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ashimema |
I'm sure I've done it for clients in the past, but I can't remember how |
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Archie_ |
i'm a project manager so it's difficult for me to get on the technical side |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
perhaps you should investigate the independantBranches preferences |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
is this a big consortia you're managing.. sounds like it |
| 10:56 |
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ashimema |
if your talking about libraries the other side of the country |
| 10:59 |
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Archie_ |
well we are switching all of the libraries of the country to Koha |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
one massive install? |
| 10:59 |
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Archie_ |
no, it's gonna be one by one |
| 10:59 |
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Archie_ |
but right now librarians have access to our demo |
| 10:59 |
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Archie_ |
with some data. So they are giving us feedback what should be different and what they don't understand |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
So where is the problem? |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
I don't understand |
| 10:59 |
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ashimema |
we are getting constant feedback from librarians that they don't need to see items in libraries on the other side of the country |
| 11:00 |
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ashimema |
either you've got all the libraries on one massive system and as such you're seeing items from all over the place or you haven't |
| 11:00 |
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magnuse |
yeah, if there will be one library per instance, the search is a non-issue |
| 11:00 |
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Archie_ |
we are trying to do all of that in one instance |
| 11:00 |
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Archie_ |
since that is the prefferable way |
| 11:02 |
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ashimema |
it sounds like a massive project to me.. I would highly suggest hiring a company to help you impliment it.. Koha is open source and gpl (meaning you don't have to pay for a lisence) but it's not a simple point a click piece of software (out of necessity.. libraries of complex entities with varying needs).. support companies exist to learn all the details of the software and advice you on it's use. |
| 11:03 |
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Archie_ |
do you have any suggestion for such companies? |
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ashimema |
we've spent years building up that knowledge and contributing to the ecosystem.. as much as I might like to 'just hand it all over' to you free of charge it would still take me years to do so for you to get the experience we have.. |
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marcelr |
Archie_: which country is switiching to Koha ? |
| 11:03 |
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ashimema |
Where in the world are you? |
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marcelr |
hmm |
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Archie_ |
Latvia |
| 11:04 |
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marcelr |
ok |
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marcelr |
nice |
| 11:05 |
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ashimema |
hope I wasn't coming accross as rude there.. I just wanted to make sure you weren't getting frustrated.. the main take away is "Koha's big, don't expect to grasp everything overnight" |
| 11:06 |
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magnuse |
on the opac side it is possible to create separate opacs for each library, i think this is a pretty good description of how to do it: https://subscription.packtpub.[…]e-opac-interfaces |
| 11:06 |
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ashimema |
https://koha-community.org/sup[…]upport/continent/ is a reasonable start for looking for a support company |
| 11:07 |
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magnuse |
there is also the SearchMyLibraryFirst syspref |
| 11:08 |
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Archie_ |
right, gonna look into that support site ;) thanks magnuse |
| 11:09 |
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ashimema |
as for personal recommendations (I work for PTFS-Europe based in the UK.. so I'll let anyone else here comment on us).. I'd say Biblibre (Based in france) are usually a good bet, Catalyst (New Zealand - perhaps a little far for you), Libriotech (That's magnuse in Norway), ByWater Solutions (Based in the USA) are some of the most active here and as such I know of their solid reputations. |
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magnuse |
PTFS-Europe has a good reputation too, ashimema is just being (very) modest :-) |
| 11:10 |
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ashimema |
They also probably command some of the higher prices though as they're the bigger outfits.. and that's totally my opinion.. there are other great providers on that list... I've dealt with many of them over the years and haven't really had any terrible experiences so far |
| 11:11 |
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Archie_ |
Alright, sounds like a good idea to hire some consultation agency |
| 11:11 |
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magnuse |
yeah, Koha is a pretty extensive piece of software |
| 11:12 |
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ashimema |
you are always welcome to ask questions here of course.. just we're all fairly busy allot of the time and we're a reduced audience.. it's also worth asking on the mailing lists as that often reaches a larger audience.. even if the response isn't so immediate ;) |
| 11:13 |
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Archie_ |
magnuse: for a open source, yeah it is |
| 11:16 |
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ashimema |
Sweden have a great and active users group too, they may be interesting to talk too about such a project aswell :) |
| 11:18 |
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Archie_ |
sweden is SUPER expensive tho ;D |
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Archie_ |
literally just went to vacation there. |
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* oleonard |
waves |
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Archie_ |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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cait |
hi oleonard! |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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eythian |
hi |
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wahanui |
privet, eythian |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #81: FAILURE in 8.7 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/81/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #82: STILL FAILING in 8.1 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/82/ |
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magnuse |
anyone familiar with the galadriel plugin from bywater around? we are trying to change the font (family). the selected font shows for a second, then the default font from opac_18.1105000.css "takes over" |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D9 build #83: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D9/83/ |
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oleonard |
magnuse: I would say that's a bug in the plugin. In order to override the dynamically-loaded font it has to be specific: ".fonts-loaded body { 'Arima Madurai' }" |
| 12:29 |
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magnuse |
oleonard: what do you mean by "specific"? |
| 12:29 |
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oleonard |
A more specific CSS selector |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #77: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.11_U18/77/ |
| 12:34 |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
| 12:34 |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #83: FIXED in 39 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_D8/83/ |
| 12:35 |
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eythian |
a browser's debug tools are often useful for telling where a CSS rule is that's controlling something. |
| 12:46 |
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magnuse |
yeah, i think we figured out what is happening |
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magnuse |
just wondering if there is something we are missing, or if it is a bug |
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oleonard |
magnuse: The plugin should be updated to inject different CSS so that it will correctly override the default |
| 12:54 |
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magnuse |
Petter will report it as an issue on github |
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tcohen |
morning al |
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oleonard |
Hi tcohen |
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wizzyrea |
hi |
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wahanui |
salut, wizzyrea |
| 14:01 |
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davidnind |
hi wizzyrea |
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davidnind |
no caroline_catlady yet:-( |
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luchvh |
Hi all |
| 14:02 |
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davidnind |
hi luchvh and AndyBoze! |
| 14:02 |
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AndyBoze |
Hello! |
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davidnind |
Welcome on board the documentation team AndyBoze, thanks for intro to the docs list! |
| 14:03 |
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AndyBoze |
Glad to be here. |
| 14:04 |
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davidnind |
#startmeeting Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019 |
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huginn` |
Meeting started Thu May 9 14:04:04 2019 UTC. The chair is davidnind. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. |
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huginn` |
Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. |
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Topic for #koha is now (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
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huginn` |
The meeting name has been set to 'documentation_irc_meeting_9_may_2019' |
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davidnind |
#topic Introductions |
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Topic for #koha is now Introductions (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
| 14:04 |
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davidnind |
#info David Nind, Wellington, New Zealand |
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davidnind |
apologies if I'm a little slow, not that great at chairing meetings! |
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luchvh |
#info Lucy Vaux-Harvey, PTFS Europe |
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AndyBoze |
#info Andy Boze, University of Notre Dame, Indiana, USA |
| 14:08 |
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davidnind |
Looks like it is just us! |
| 14:08 |
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davidnind |
#topic Action points |
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Topic for #koha is now Action points (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
hello |
| 14:08 |
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wahanui |
hey, ashimema |
| 14:08 |
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ashimema |
#info Martin Renvoize, PTFS Europe |
| 14:09 |
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davidnind |
Hi ashimema! |
| 14:09 |
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ashimema |
no Caroline? |
| 14:09 |
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ashimema |
would appear not |
| 14:09 |
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davidnind |
Not yet, so I started without her... |
| 14:10 |
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ashimema |
okies |
| 14:11 |
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davidnind |
Just a quick update on my action points, feel free to ask any questions |
| 14:11 |
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cait |
sorry - just saw a ton of pm - have to run to catch a bus, will be back tonight :) |
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cait |
oh oops meeting :( |
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davidnind |
#link https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]eeting_9_May_2019 |
| 14:13 |
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davidnind |
Automated screen capture will probably take a little longer to get working |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
do you think perhaps for the next cycle it might be ready? |
| 14:13 |
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ashimema |
anything we can do at kohacon to help get it working? |
| 14:14 |
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* ashimema |
wants to have an even more amazing manual to 19.11 ;) |
| 14:14 |
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davidnind |
I hope I can get it ready, will still require some manual screenshots |
| 14:15 |
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davidnind |
At kohacon would be great if anyone has got any experience with selenium tests and the robot framework |
| 14:15 |
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* ashimema |
is somewhat out of the loop manual wise (too many fingers in too many pies already).. but is happy to help grab dev helpers where needed.. I know rangi is already looking into translation a bit. |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
are you around for the workshops? |
| 14:15 |
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davidnind |
Repository is here https://gitlab.com/davidnind/k[…]mated-screenshots |
| 14:15 |
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wahanui |
i already had it that way, davidnind. |
| 14:15 |
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ashimema |
I'm sure we could find a moment to get some intersted expertise involved |
| 14:16 |
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ashimema |
cool, thanks |
| 14:16 |
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davidnind |
I will be around for the workshops, so is something we could work on |
| 14:17 |
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davidnind |
I have the basics working for the easy screenshots, so it is initially just adding definitions for each screenshot to capture |
| 14:18 |
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davidnind |
ashimema: that would great, I just general google things and make them up as I go along! |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
sounds great |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
more collaboration is my mantra at the moment ;) |
| 14:18 |
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davidnind |
Is anyone else on the documentation team going to kohacon? |
| 14:18 |
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ashimema |
I believe caroline is |
| 14:19 |
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ashimema |
and lucy ^ |
| 14:19 |
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luchvh |
I'm there for the first 2 days but not the workshops |
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davidnind |
great! |
| 14:19 |
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luchvh |
Hoping to get to meet some doc team members though |
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davidnind |
I think most of us will be there, so that will be great! As well as rangi and cait and others who have being involved/still involved and have a keen interest in having good documentation. |
| 14:22 |
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luchvh |
Sounds good! |
| 14:22 |
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davidnind |
Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on this one :-( |
| 14:23 |
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davidnind |
Last meeting there was an idea of having a doc sprint day, similar to previous bug squashing day |
| 14:24 |
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davidnind |
Does anyone have any thoughts on that? |
| 14:24 |
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davidnind |
Main thing is finding a suitable time, or just run over a 24 hour period. |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
sounds like a good idea to me |
| 14:25 |
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luchvh |
It's not something I've done before but happy to be involved |
| 14:25 |
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ashimema |
though yeah, as you say, finding a suitable moment is key |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
I think really it's just a case of announce a 'date' and promote it' |
| 14:26 |
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AndyBoze |
I'd be happy to participate. |
| 14:26 |
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davidnind |
I'll send a proposed date(s) to the mailing list, and we can see how it goes as an experiment! |
| 14:26 |
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ashimema |
and rather than limiting it to a 24 hour period, let it run for the whole 'day' worldwide (to try and catch multiple continents.. I think that's usually how it works for bug squashing events |
| 14:27 |
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wizzyrea |
it is |
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wizzyrea |
start it at midnight kiribati, end midnight what is it, hawaii time? |
| 14:28 |
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ashimema |
the advantage for bug squashing is we have leaderboards and things ready to go (and the dashboard).. It would be great to get that sort of thing for documentation pull requests.. gamigication of submissions and all that |
| 14:28 |
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davidnind |
good idea! |
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wizzyrea |
https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard |
| 14:29 |
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wizzyrea |
if someone enterprising wanted to add things |
| 14:29 |
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davidnind |
#info David to organise documentation bug squashing day, most likely after kohacon |
| 14:30 |
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davidnind |
wizzyrea++ |
| 14:30 |
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davidnind |
would be good to have a dashboard |
| 14:30 |
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ashimema |
haha.. it's been on my list to add docs pull requests to that for ages ;) |
| 14:31 |
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luchvh |
So how does it work? Is there a list of 'to dos' that we would work from? |
| 14:32 |
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davidnind |
I guess we could create a list of suggested tasks to focus (small, medium and large) and then see how we go |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
I think that would need to be the case yes.. I would suggest a page be created of taigia (if that's what you guys are most familier with still) with such a list.. |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
or gitlab issues works well if not |
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ashimema |
perfect |
| 14:32 |
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ashimema |
there is also of course the keywords in bugzilla |
| 14:33 |
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ashimema |
that's a list I'm constantly adding to and will continue to add to as RM |
| 14:33 |
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davidnind |
I don't think we are short of tasks for the documentation! |
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luchvh |
Agreed!! |
| 14:34 |
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davidnind |
caroline (and I guess me now) keeps on eye on bugzilla doc bugs and adds them to the Taiga.io list |
| 14:34 |
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ashimema |
https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]g_status=RESOLVED |
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ashimema |
&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&bug_status=BLOCKED&f1=keywords&keywords=Manual%2C%20&keywords_type=allwords&list_id=281380&o1=allwords&query_format=advanced |
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* ashimema |
still isn't entirely sure of the procss for removing that 'Manual' keyword once something has been written |
| 14:36 |
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davidnind |
not sure either, I guess we ca just remove it once the work is done |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
and at what point during a bugs life the Manual keyword should be added.. |
| 14:36 |
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ashimema |
I may even require an existing pull-request for some bugs before I'll merge them as RM.. I don't like new features going in entirely undocumented.. makes them really hard to discover for new users. |
| 14:37 |
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luchvh |
I must admit I find it difficult to work what needs doing |
| 14:37 |
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ashimema |
that doesn't mean you guys are responsible for such submissions btw.. more I want the original devs to get on board with documenting what they're submitting (whether that's themselves or them grabbing someone from their company to help) |
| 14:38 |
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davidnind |
with my documentation hat on, I would say a bug isn't finished until the docs are done ;-) |
| 14:38 |
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ashimema |
Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on this one :-( |
| 14:38 |
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ashimema |
so that does seem to be a bit of a limiting factor for contributions still then |
| 14:39 |
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davidnind |
luchvh: it is a bit overwhelming at the moment I think |
| 14:39 |
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ashimema |
well.. I'm happy to encourage such a thing next cycle :) |
| 14:39 |
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davidnind |
#info Style/content development guide (which incorporates workflow a-z): working on an outline, but not much further to report on |
| 14:40 |
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davidnind |
feels guilty about that, but will make it a priority, will also help new and potential contributors |
| 14:41 |
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davidnind |
at the moment we have https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]g_the_Koha_Manual |
| 14:42 |
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davidnind |
Last year/the year before we ran a video conference session to work through the workflow, do you think this is something we should do again? |
| 14:42 |
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luchvh |
There is lots of good info on there - enough to get me started with some simple updates. |
| 14:42 |
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ashimema |
I get he feeling it's mostly 'where to pull work from' that's still confusing people.. |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
the 'how to do the work' bit is fairly good now in my opinion |
| 14:43 |
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luchvh |
It would definitely be useful to have a session I think |
| 14:43 |
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ashimema |
always can be improved.. but it's certainly not terrible ;) |
| 14:44 |
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davidnind |
totally agree ashimema and luchvh! |
| 14:44 |
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davidnind |
#info look at having a general video session on the workflow for new contributors |
| 14:45 |
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davidnind |
#topic What's been done so far |
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Topic for #koha is now What's been done so far (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
| 14:46 |
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davidnind |
I have nothing to report, there have been a few merges including some changes from luchvh! |
| 14:47 |
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ashimema |
There is a documentation workshop at kohacon of course ;) |
| 14:47 |
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luchvh |
I've submitted a few really small changes |
| 14:47 |
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davidnind |
luchvh++ |
| 14:47 |
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luchvh |
nothing of any substance! |
| 14:49 |
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luchvh |
I guess I'm OK just carrying on with that? |
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luchvh |
It's just bits I come across myself really - as I've said I'm not 100% sure what 'should' be tackled from taiga etc |
| 14:51 |
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davidnind |
more than happy, under the priorities for 19.05 item I'd like to come up with a priorities list |
| 14:51 |
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Nemo_bis |
https://www.hanken.fi/en/news/[…]ainable-solutions |
| 14:52 |
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davidnind |
Nemo_bis++ |
| 14:52 |
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davidnind |
Since we are running out of time, maybe we can just skip to the priorities for 19.05 release |
| 14:53 |
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davidnind |
#topic Next steps |
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Topic for #koha is now Next steps (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
| 14:54 |
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davidnind |
For priorities I think there are new features and release notes |
| 14:55 |
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davidnind |
Draft release notes are here: https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]notes_18_12_00.md |
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davidnind |
Where there are no text update needed on bugzilla for 'Text to go in release notes' field (on right hand side), for example: https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=15774 |
| 14:57 |
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huginn` |
Bug 15774: new feature, P5 - low, ---, nick, RESOLVED FIXED, Additional fields for baskets |
| 14:58 |
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davidnind |
For new features caroline has added all the bugs to Taiga.io task list https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]on-kohadocs-1805/ |
| 14:59 |
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davidnind |
So maybe assign any of these to yourself that you want to work on |
| 14:59 |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze and luchvh: do you have access to Taiga.io? |
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luchvh |
Yes I do, Caroline helped me to get set-up |
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AndyBoze |
I haven't gotten an account yet but will do. |
| 15:00 |
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davidnind |
Excellent! |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 15:01 |
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luchvh |
I can see lots of items added - that's great |
| 15:01 |
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davidnind |
got to love wahanui! |
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davidnind |
Does anyone have any particular things they want to work on? |
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davidnind |
I'm keen to get something added for the new mana feature https://tree.taiga.io/project/[…]adocs-1805/us/819 |
| 15:04 |
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davidnind |
If it would help I can create a small priority list and send it to the list |
| 15:04 |
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ashimema |
++ |
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davidnind |
#info David to send a priority list to the mailing list |
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ashimema |
I've been poking Bywater to document the new daily/hourly rental charges feature ever since it passed QA.. but I don't think they've gotten to it yet.. that might be a good one for someone to pick up |
| 15:06 |
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davidnind |
#info Focus is on release note descriptions and new features for 19.05 |
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ashimema |
:) |
| 15:06 |
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davidnind |
That sounds like a good one to add! |
| 15:06 |
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davidnind |
#topic Next meeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Next meeting (Meeting topic: Documentation IRC meeting 9 May 2019) |
| 15:07 |
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davidnind |
Does this time suit you lucyvh and AndyBoze? |
| 15:08 |
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davidnind |
Can make early or later |
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AndyBoze |
Yes, this time should generally work for me. |
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luchvh |
It's right on school pick-up time for me i'm afraid |
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luchvh |
But I'm usually out for 5/10 mins |
| 15:09 |
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luchvh |
Happy to stick with this time if it suits others |
| 15:09 |
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davidnind |
Could make it an hour earlier, would that work better? I'm pretty flexible. |
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luchvh |
Yes, would be good if others don't mind |
| 15:11 |
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AndyBoze |
It would depend on the day of the month. I occasionally have a meeting on Thursday the hour prior to this. |
| 15:12 |
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davidnind |
Would normally be the first Thursday of the month, the day after the General IRC meeting |
| 15:12 |
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davidnind |
But we can move it around to suit if required |
| 15:13 |
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davidnind |
Suggested time for next meeting 6 June 13:00 UTC https://www.timeanddate.com/wo[…]iso=20190606T1300 |
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AndyBoze |
I think Thursday will be OK. I checked a couple of months out and my Thursday meeting won't conflict with this. |
| 15:14 |
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davidnind |
Excellent! |
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wahanui |
darn tootin' it is. |
| 15:14 |
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davidnind |
#info Next Documentation IRC meeting 6 June 2019 13:00 UTC |
| 15:14 |
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luchvh |
Great! |
| 15:14 |
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davidnind |
Anything else for today (and apologies for going over!) |
| 15:14 |
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ashimema |
well done guys |
| 15:15 |
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luchvh |
Thanks David |
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davidnind |
#endmeeting |
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Topic for #koha is now Welcome to #koha this channel is for discussion of the Koha project and software http://koha-community.org |
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huginn` |
Meeting ended Thu May 9 15:15:40 2019 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) |
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huginn` |
Minutes: http://meetings.koha-community[…]-05-09-14.04.html |
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huginn` |
Minutes (text): http://meetings.koha-community[…]9-05-09-14.04.txt |
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huginn` |
Log: http://meetings.koha-community[…]09-14.04.log.html |
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oleonard |
documentation_team++ |
| 15:16 |
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davidnind |
Thanks everyone for putting up with me! |
| 15:16 |
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davidnind |
luchvh++ |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze++ |
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davidnind |
ashimema++ |
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ashimema |
davidnind++ #thanks for running the meeting :) |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze: welcome to the documentation team, hope it is not too overwhelming at this stage! |
| 15:17 |
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AndyBoze |
I'm looking forward to working with everyone! :-) |
| 15:18 |
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luchvh |
AndyBoze++ |
| 15:20 |
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davidnind |
I guess start with some easy things first, and go from there! |
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AndyBoze |
Sounds like a plan. |
| 15:21 |
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davidnind |
I'll try and hang out a bit more on IRC, but otherwise an email to the list or me directly should work as well. |
| 15:23 |
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AndyBoze |
I just created a taiga.io account and can access the KohaDocs project. What do I need to do to get added to the team? |
| 15:25 |
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davidnind |
AndyBoze: just trying to figure that out, will just be a sec |
| 15:28 |
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AndyBoze |
davidnind: My taiga.io user name is andybozend if you need that. |
| 15:34 |
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davidnind |
Thanks AndyBoze, looks like I don't have access to add a new member. Will ask caroline_catlady to give you access - you should get a message when you're added |
| 15:34 |
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AndyBoze |
Great, thanks! |
| 15:36 |
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davidnind |
@later caroline_catlady: Could you add AndyBoze as a project member on taiga? Username is andybozend. Thanks! |
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huginn` |
davidnind: downloading the Perl source |
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davidnind |
@later tell caroline_catlady Could you add AndyBoze as a project member on taiga? Username is andybozend. Thanks! |
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huginn` |
davidnind: The operation succeeded. |
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wizzyrea |
v quiet now lol |
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davidnind |
scared away by documentation team! |
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* oleonard |
is still here, always here, never sleeping |
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* ashimema |
is sami-present |
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* ashimema |
has kids, dogs and cats all running around him.. hense being rather distracted.. |
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oleonard |
ashimema is semi-omni-present |
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* kidclamp |
is a gift |
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kidclamp |
{present} |
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* oleonard |
leaves the wrapping on that one |
| 16:44 |
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kidclamp |
also perishable, keep that in mind |
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ashimema |
lol |
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wizzyrea |
O.o |
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* oleonard |
is saddened to hear kidclamp is not immortal |
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kidclamp |
Oh, I am, I just go bad |
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oleonard |
Evil Kidclamp, A.D. 2150 |
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wizzyrea |
kekeke |
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* wizzyrea |
waits for the graphic novel of this conversation |
| 16:55 |
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wizzyrea |
"KIDCLAMPS GONE BAD: A SAGA" |
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oleonard |
Wow are you telling me comic books aren't just for kids anymore? |
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oleonard |
Someone should alert every hometown newspaper. |
| 16:59 |
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kidclamp |
"who wrote this recursive self updating code? without unit tests!" |
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wizzyrea |
*GASP* |
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reiveune |
bye |
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vero |
Log in only with a user, such as disabling the password to log in. Thanks |
| 17:08 |
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wizzyrea |
i feel like that's not something you'd want to do if your Koha is accessible by internet |
| 17:10 |
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vero |
yes , opac users need only with their user can enter |
| 17:12 |
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oleonard |
I agree with wizzyrea that that doesn't sound like a good idea. Nor do I think Koha offers a way to do that. |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
I know of libraries that have requested that, and have had it implemented, but they were internal to an orginisation |
| 17:13 |
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wizzyrea |
organisation* |
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wizzyrea |
but I don't think it's something we'd put into core |
| 17:14 |
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wizzyrea |
even optionally. because it's not a good idea. |
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vero |
thank you |
| 17:20 |
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ashimema |
anyone know who hosts meetbot? |
| 17:21 |
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wizzyrea |
gmcharlt I think |
| 17:21 |
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ashimema |
awesome.. |
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* ashimema |
rethinks his idea |
| 17:22 |
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oleonard |
FYI bots are listed here: https://wiki.koha-community.org/wiki/IRC_Regulars |
| 17:23 |
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ashimema |
oh, cool |
| 17:23 |
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ashimema |
didn't realise they had a section at the bottom there.. |
| 17:23 |
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ashimema |
nice |
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* cait |
waves |
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wizzyrea |
hi cait |
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wizzyrea |
hrm does anyone else have trouble with the circulation rules page on current master? |
| 17:51 |
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Joubu |
something specific to look at? |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
does it load at all :P |
| 17:52 |
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oleonard |
I have trouble with it every time I use it, but that's just because it's so unusable :P |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
DBIx::Class::Storage::DBI::_dbh_execute(): Table 'koha_kohadev.refund_lost_item_fee_rules' doesn't exist at /kohadevbox/koha/Koha/Objects.pm line 92 |
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wizzyrea |
at /usr/share/perl5/DBIx/Class/Exception.pm line 77 |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
possibly I just need to dump this DB |
| 17:52 |
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wizzyrea |
I am breaking up with you, database! |
| 17:53 |
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wizzyrea |
take that. |
| 17:53 |
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Joubu |
yup, you certainly tried something that deleted the table |
| 17:53 |
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Joubu |
like bug 18930 :) |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=18930 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , Move lost item refund rules to circulation_rules table |
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wizzyrea |
cool I'll just reset it :) |
| 17:53 |
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wizzyrea |
yeah that's gotta be the one |
| 17:53 |
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wizzyrea |
ok thank you |
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wizzyrea |
it's just me carry on |
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oleonard |
wizzyrea I will not rest until I get to the bottom of this!! |
| 17:54 |
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wizzyrea |
stand down soldier |
| 17:55 |
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wizzyrea |
all betterer now |
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gmcharlt |
ashimema: question about meetbot? |
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oleonard |
Hi Margaret |
| 17:58 |
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oleonard |
Hi gmcharlt |
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Margaret |
hi oleonard! |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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gmcharlt |
hi oleonard |
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wahanui |
hi oleopard |
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Joubu |
It would be good to have bug 22433 pushed quickly, to know why the test is failing |
| 18:07 |
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huginn` |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=22433 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , SIP/Transaction.t is failing randomly |
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Joubu |
super easy to test ;) |
| 18:08 |
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ashimema |
gmcharlt I was going to ask how feasable it might be too hook off the endmeeting to run a script (which populate the google calendar entries for the next meeting and updates the wiki pages) |
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gmcharlt |
ashimema: seems to me to be a bit overkill, but if you give me a web endpoint that the bot can GET or POST that activates said script, I'm wiling to have the bot invoke it |
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ashimema |
Yeah, I thought twice about it after I initially asked, |
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oleonard |
I don't want to distract gmcharlt from his months-long quest to find a way to get huginn`'s weather-reporting abilities back. |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: DBRev 18.12.00.068 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]2905885b494c81edf> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Compiled CSS <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]4772d795b2eea53fc> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22790: Add a test <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]d9d2d2de94de9cdf1> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22847: Correctly displayed circ rule values for max_holds and maxissue* <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]604bd6f1294c829b1> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22790: The system preference itemBarcodeInputFilter is not applied for barcodes... <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]154c9f3463b94d37e> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Modify checkbox enabling <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ff1ef8a7ddb8ea999> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) AllowRenewalLimitOverride fix <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]c9e6adfc88508ffed> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Add pref to checkbox <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9b7026fe99b818ded> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Default hold checkbox display <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]da20fb40a036c5978> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Set syspref default to off <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]09c8557fd733a1b61> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Remove script "type" attribute <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]83a000d9afbdf4c02> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: (follow-up) Fix renewal limit bug <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]19e518d508fcc18c6> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Allow renew on hold items with due date <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]8e4cb530c4cc0a8e9> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 7088: Add AllowRenewalOnHoldOverride syspref <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]342eb808f3524d81e> |
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oleonard |
See y'all later |
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wizzyrea |
bye oleo |
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wizzyrea |
nard |
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wizzyrea |
eesh |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_D9 build #724: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D9/724/ |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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wahanui |
Congratulations! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_Master_U18 build #219: FIXED in 36 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]a_Master_U18/219/ |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22053: DBRev 18.12.00.069 <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]ab206ea163128ccbb> |
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huginn` |
News from kohagit: Bug 22811: Add button to clear DataTables filtering <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]512fc0065fed6a42b> |
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News from kohagit: Bug 21535: Anonymize function in Patron should not scramble email addresses <http://git.koha-community.org/[…]3088030c89a877401> |
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