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hi --- is upgrading to koha 18.11 is safe now or do we need to wait ? |
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hi --- is upgrading to koha 18.11 is safe now or do we need to wait --- while DBMS Auto Increment error is fixed ? |
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is anyone there? |
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magnuse |
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reiveune |
hello |
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Archie^ |
good morning :) |
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josef_moravec |
morning #koha; |
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cait |
morning #koha and josef_moravec |
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josef_moravec |
hi cait |
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cait |
um |
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cait |
are bug 21951 and bug 21465 duplicates? |
| 08:47 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21951 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Patron import fails if matching on cardnumber and userid also matches |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21465 normal, P5 - low, ---, nick, Signed Off , Cannot overlay patrons when matching by cardnumber if userid exists in file and in Koha |
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ashimema |
sounds like it to me |
| 08:51 |
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josef_moravec |
it is duplicate according to me... |
| 08:51 |
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cait |
the fix is different |
| 08:51 |
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cait |
and one has tests and the other not |
| 08:51 |
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cait |
+ and not ( $borrowernumber ? $patron->userid( $borrower{userid} )->has_valid_userid : Koha::Patron->new( { userid => $borrower{userid} } )->has_valid_userid ) |
| 08:52 |
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cait |
not sure i understand that one yet |
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cait |
vs. |
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cait |
and ( (!$borrowernumber) || (Koha::Patrons->find($borrowernumber)->userid ne $borrower{userid}) ) |
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josef_moravec |
I would try to run the test from second one on top of patch from first one ;) |
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cait |
please do ;) |
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josef_moravec |
cait: working on it ;) |
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cait |
thx! |
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cait |
I'll resume sending qa mails next monday i hope |
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josef_moravec |
cait: pass against first (kyle's) patch ;) |
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josef_moravec |
and fails without any patch ;) |
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josef_moravec |
maybe some comment in code like why the conditions is here would be helpful for future ... |
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cait |
josef_moravec: i agree |
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cait |
woking a bit on the manual today |
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cait |
@wunder Upfingen |
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huginn |
cait: Upfingen, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 46F/8C | Wind Chill: 41F/5C | Thursday: Generally cloudy. High 48F. Winds WSW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Cloudy skies. Low 44F. Winds SW at 10 to 15 mph. |
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eythian |
@wunder amsterdam |
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huginn |
eythian: Amsterdam, Netherlands :: Overcast :: 54F/12C | Thursday: Generally cloudy. High 53F. Winds SW at 10 to 20 mph. Thursday Night: Rain. Low 52F. Winds SW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of rain 100%. Rainfall near a quarter of an inch. |
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eythian |
almost tropical, except that chance of rain. |
| 11:46 |
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cait |
weird winter |
| 11:46 |
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cait |
btw... I messed up, please help me fix it: bug 21961 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21961 normal, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Needs Signoff , Typo in permission keeps Did you mean? config from showing up |
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josef_moravec |
cait: where is problem with your patch? It looks to be working... |
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cait |
the problem is that i cuased the bug with my patch for granular admin permissions :) |
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josef_moravec |
cait: ah, I see ;) |
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cait |
just noticed it while documenting the new perms |
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josef_moravec |
cait: here you are ;) |
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cait |
thx josef_moravec :) |
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cait |
josef_moravec++ |
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Archie^ |
Hey, has anyone migrated libraries into koha? I was wondering, do you just insert records into "issues"'table? or there is another way to do it ? |
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josef_moravec |
Archie^: Yes, when importing checkout, we just insert it into issues table (only the active ones, the returned ones should go into old_issues) |
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Archie^ |
ok, just double checking! Thank oyu josef_moravec ! |
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cait |
if you migrate historiy issues too, make sure you have no doubled up ids |
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cait |
we usually fill old_issues first and then set the pk in issues to a higher value before importing there |
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cait |
so you got the right sequence |
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josef_moravec |
cait: thank to clarify, yes that's the way we do it too, |
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Joubu |
hi #koha |
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josef_moravec |
hi Joubu |
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Archie^ |
ok, so Old_issues, then regular issues |
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Archie^ |
got it, thanks ! |
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josef_moravec |
Archie^: and update autoincremet of issues to max(issue_id)+1 from old_issues |
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cait |
i should start updating the faq with stuf flike this :) |
| 12:16 |
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cait |
but needs some major clean-up first |
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kidclamp |
@wunder 05001 |
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huginn |
kidclamp: White River Junction, VT :: Clear :: 18F/-8C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. A few flurries or snow showers possible. High 34F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph. Thursday Night: Cloudy skies. A few flurries or snow showers possible. Low near 25F. Winds light and variable. |
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* cait |
waves at kidclamp |
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kidclamp |
hi cait |
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oleonard |
Hi too |
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magnuse |
\o/ |
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magnuse |
@wunder bodø, norway |
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huginn |
magnuse: Error: I could not find a valid location for: bodø, norway |
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magnuse |
@wunder bodo, norway |
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huginn |
magnuse: Bodo, Norway :: Mostly Cloudy :: 37F/3C | Wind Chill: 28F/-2C | Thursday: Snow showers. Temps nearly steady in the mid 30s. Winds SSW at 15 to 25 mph. Chance of snow 90%. Snow accumulations less than one inch. Thursday Night: Snow showers this evening. Becoming partly cloudy later. Low 24F. Winds ESE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 50%. Snow accumulations less tha |
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oleonard |
@wunder 45701 |
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huginn |
oleonard: Athens, OH :: Clear :: 29F/-2C | Wind Chill: 24F/-4C | Thursday: A mix of clouds and sun during the morning will give way to cloudy skies this afternoon. High near 40F. Winds SW at 10 to 15 mph. Thursday Night: Rain or snow showers this evening will give way to partly cloudy skies overnight. Low 22F. Winds light and variable. Chance of snow 60%. |
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* cait |
waves at oleonard |
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* magnuse |
is the king of hotness |
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kidclamp |
magnuse needs that on a tshirt |
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oleonard |
I'm going to start a podcast in which, every week, I talk about one of my patches that needs signoff. You're all subscribed. |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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cait |
which is on for this week? |
| 13:23 |
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oleonard |
Bug 21751 |
| 13:23 |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21751 normal, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Needs Signoff , fixFloat toolbar not displaying properly in Chrome |
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Archie^ |
Is there a way to import marc records into koha so it compares both for 020 and 022 ? |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: can you confirm you do not recreate bug 21675? |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21675 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Unable to add to a basket with ElasticSearch enabled |
| 13:45 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: I get a conflict - CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/css/staff-global.css |
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oleonard |
I'm fixing it right now Joubu. I shouldn't have released the podcast before testing that! |
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kidclamp |
Joubu: confirmed |
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kidclamp |
podcast? |
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oleonard |
kidclamp: My weekly podcast about patches I'm waiting for signoffs on. |
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oleonard |
Joubu: It should work now. staff-global.css was included in the patch by accident. |
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tuxayo |
> I'm going to start a podcast in which, every week, I talk about one of my patches that needs signoff. You're all subscribed. |
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tuxayo |
hi hi hi |
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tuxayo |
^^ |
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cait |
*sighs* looks like my patch to make the acq pemission descrpitions nice was undone somehow :( |
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cait |
*grrrs* |
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caroline |
hello! |
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cait |
hi caroline |
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caroline |
what are your roaring about cait? |
| 13:56 |
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cait |
merge thing changed back the acq permission descriptons i had fixed in master |
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cait |
:( |
| 13:56 |
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cait |
so now it all reads budges again when some of them are for funds |
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cait |
and i have to redo my work |
| 13:56 |
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cait |
*shrugs |
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cait |
working on a bigger manual submission adding all the new permissions |
| 13:56 |
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caroline |
cait I was also working on that :) oops! |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
i am done with the administration ones |
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caroline |
I didn't commit because I didn't have time to finish |
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cait |
ready to submit, i just wanted to do acq now too |
| 13:57 |
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cait |
i will push up the branch - you can take a look |
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caroline |
Do you want me to send you my text by email? You can add it |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]erge_requests/201 |
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cait |
mine is her now |
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cait |
did I miss the one on taiga? |
| 13:59 |
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cait |
i added it earlier - i had promised a patch to documentaiton since it was me who added a ton of permissions :) |
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caroline |
never mind, I had just done the admin ones too |
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caroline |
For the acq permissions, I had just copied whatever was in the interface |
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caroline |
In admin, I was missing the elastic search thing and the usage stats |
| 14:01 |
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caroline |
That's why I hadn't pushed it |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
the interface is wrong |
| 14:01 |
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cait |
now |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
i had fixed it but it got undone :( |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
i will write up a fix for koha master and then a docs patch, if that'sok? |
| 14:02 |
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caroline |
yup |
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caroline |
go ahead |
| 14:02 |
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caroline |
first push gets the worm |
| 14:02 |
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cait |
we might be too much in sync or something :) |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
I'll track everything i work on in taiga |
| 14:03 |
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Joubu |
you should not redo it but undo the undo instead :) |
| 14:03 |
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cait |
Joubu: not sure how to do that, can you guide me? |
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cait |
it's here: http://git.koha-community.org/[…]9e74b419bc4572b96 |
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cait |
koha-tmpl/intranet-tmpl/prog/en/includes/permissions.inc |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
it shoudl have only beena new line for adding suggestions permission |
| 14:04 |
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cait |
i guess there was a conflict |
| 14:04 |
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ashimema |
. |
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Joubu |
cait: if it is just those 4 lines it will be quicker to c/p them and commit them again |
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cait |
ok ;) |
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Joubu |
kidclamp: you should ask for a rebase when you get a conflict on PQA patches |
| 14:08 |
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kidclamp |
what did I do instead? FQA? gets more attention :-) |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
i think you are i fixed it falsely |
| 14:09 |
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cait |
but i am not tracking down if it was you or me now :) just fixing it |
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kidclamp |
Ah, when I think I am smart enough I do try to fix, perhaps I am not as smart as I think |
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cait |
caroline: the acq permission description update is in the same merge request as the other ermission changes |
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cait |
bbl :) |
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oleonard |
Joubu: Is this the toolbar behavior you saw? https://zivotdesign.com/p/view[…]?p=15441095881052 |
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Joubu |
oleonard: yep |
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oleonard |
Yeah... I think that's better than what we have now. |
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Joubu |
oleonard: As a FF user it is not :) |
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mtompset |
Greetings, #koha. |
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caroline |
Hello mtompset |
| 15:47 |
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mtompset |
Greetings, caroline Joubu. |
| 15:47 |
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mtompset |
Couldn't duplicate now, so I just closed the bug 21857, Joubu |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21857 critical, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, RESOLVED WORKSFORME, Fresh kohadevbox fails to web install |
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* CrispyBran |
waves |
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caroline |
hi CrispyBran |
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CrispyBran |
hi caroline |
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karuson |
Hi CrispyBran and caroline |
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caroline |
hi karuson |
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CrispyBran |
hi karuson |
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ashimema |
tcohen++ #getting Jenkins setup for 18.11 |
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Joubu |
no D8? |
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ashimema |
Think he's still working on them |
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ashimema |
Could be the isik space issue on the Bywater node |
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ashimema |
Disk |
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cait |
caroline: a while ago we discussed moving the faq from the website to the wiki |
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cait |
i'd like to start with cleaning up the faq page, but not sure where this shoudl go as a taiga task? |
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cait |
maybe 18.11 - chapter clean-up? |
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tcohen |
ashimema: the missing D8 task was just a check to know if Joubu is back |
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tcohen |
LOL |
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* cait |
sends some christmas cookies |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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caroline |
cait: sorry, I hadn't seen your message |
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caroline |
I thought the faq was to stay in the manual? |
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caroline |
Didn't we have a vote on that in one of the meetings? |
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cait |
yep to stay in the manual |
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cait |
there is also some on hte website |
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cait |
my plan is to first update the manual - clean it up |
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cait |
and the move the good ones from the website into the manual too |
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cait |
and then link from the website to the manual maybe? but remove the faq section there |
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caroline |
ok good plan |
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cait |
some of the faq are not correct anymore, so trying ot figure out those |
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cait |
is it checkin date or check-in date? |
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caroline |
Maybe put them in comments and we can go over them later if you don't have time right now |
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caroline |
In sysprefs, it is written "checkin", in homepage it is "check in" ... |
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caroline |
any english natives want to weigh in on "check in" vs "checkin" |
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caroline |
I think one is a verb and the other a noun? |
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ashimema |
to 'check in' is an action (verb).. 'checkin' is the name of the result of the action (noun).. |
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ashimema |
that's how I would read it. |
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caroline |
thx ashimema |
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ashimema |
:) |
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cait |
so... checkindate? |
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cait |
and thx :) |
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cait |
caroline: i try to make them right :) |
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cait |
right now i am hopefully improving the explanation of holds to pull versus holds queue |
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multiarch |
hi - is it safe to install koha on multiarch debian with i386 and amd64 enabled systems ? is it safe to practice on production server? |
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multiarch |
please help on above --- |
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koha-jenkins |
Yippee, build fixed! |
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Project Koha_18.11_U18 build #2: FIXED in 27 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.11_U18/2/ |
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cait |
multiarch: if don't know - maybe this would be better on the mailing list |
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multiarch |
cait: Ok. |
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cait |
caroline: do you know right away how to comment out? |
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cait |
haven't used that yet |
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cait |
ah .. |
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multiarch |
hi all : if anyone have the info please share ! |
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koha-jenkins |
Project Koha_18.11_D8 build #1: SUCCESS in 33 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]/Koha_18.11_D8/1/ |
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Joubu |
tcohen: that would be interesting to have test coverage data |
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reiveune |
bye |
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caroline |
@later tell cait sorry I was out on lunch... comment lines start with .. (two periods) |
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huginn |
caroline: The operation succeeded. |
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cait |
is htere still an item limit on records for indexing? |
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cait |
or do we index xml these days andit's all good? that's what i thought |
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cait |
tcohen: maybe you know? |
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cait |
Joubu: maybe you know? |
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cait |
looking at this FAQ http://paste.koha-community.org/437 |
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cait |
i'd say it might break exporting as ISO 2709... but not indexing htese days |
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rangi |
Joubu: are you about? |
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Joubu |
yes |
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rangi |
@later tell Joubu can you please redo your merge request to https://gitlab.com/koha-community/koha-dashboard instead, thanks |
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huginn |
rangi: The operation succeeded. |
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rangi |
ahh you are there ;) |
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oleonard |
Hi rangi, how's business? |
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rangi |
not too bad, always a bit hectic this time of year, otherwise ok |
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Joubu |
cait: I do not know, sorry |
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cait |
i am pretty sure it#s no longer an issue |
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cait |
we just had some big records that caused export problems but were fine with indexing |
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Joubu |
rangi: done, it was fork from the old one |
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rangi |
ahh right, thanks :) |
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* ashimema |
hints that the 17.05 badges should also be remove ;) |
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ashimema |
Joubu++ thanks for doing that.. I knew there was something I'd forgotten ;) |
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oleonard |
Hey I never got my 17.05 badge |
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Joubu |
ashimema: I wanted to keep them to show it's stable |
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ashimema |
stable.. but is it still maintained ;) |
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Joubu |
we could add a hint to show it's no longer maintained, and remove it in the next months? |
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Joubu |
I do not mind removing them :) |
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oleonard |
Release managers should get rings like the Super Bowl winners |
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ashimema |
hmm |
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ashimema |
leave it for now... perhaps one to bring up at a meeting :) |
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rangi |
Joubu: merged and released to production |
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Joubu |
thanks! |
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cait |
hmm |
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cait |
i don't think we limit download at 10.000 anymore either |
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cait |
do we? |
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cait |
i think i have downloaded reports with way more |
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cait |
**Question**: When I download my report it's limited to 10,000 results, |
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cait |
how do I get all of the results to download? |
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rangi |
hmm yeah i dont think we have a built in limit anymore |
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rangi |
not sure though |
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Joubu |
looking at the code we do not |
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cait |
just verified with testing, we don't |
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cait |
12000 something downloaded and displayed |
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kidclamp |
there is a limit in the csv tool we use I believe |
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kidclamp |
I think more than 1million is problematic |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i think the explanation of relevance serach ther eis all wrong |
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kidclamp |
where? |
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cait |
hm the faq |
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cait |
frido explained it to me once... but i can't access my notes right now (being on vacation) |
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cait |
might have to leave it for later |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/438 |
| 20:26 |
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kidclamp |
turn on zebra request logging and you can see al the searches it does and ask zebra to explain the ranking |
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cait |
that might be a good learning experience |
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cait |
but... i got no idea how to do htat :) |
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cait |
we hsould document that heh |
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cait |
actually i think the most relevant answre here would be: Turn off QuryAutoTruncate becuase it completely breaks relevance ranking |
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cait |
but i am not usre if we want ot put that in the manual |
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caroline |
I think it is relevant |
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caroline |
ppl need to know |
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cait |
i might shorten it to the facts we know - don't be afraid to search for "the help" |
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cait |
koha doesn't know stop words and will use it for searching |
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cait |
improve relevance by turning off the automatic truncation |
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cait |
git never forgets, so canalways add back more info once verifed |
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kidclamp |
queryautotruncate, or ICU |
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kidclamp |
both destroy relevancy |
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cait |
ICU too? |
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cait |
interesting |
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kidclamp |
there is no relevancy whenusing ICU chains |
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cait |
we haven't noticed that... but probably too small libraries |
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kidclamp |
all results are ranked 0 |
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cait |
ok, i will add ICU too |
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kidclamp |
there is a way to get the score, but I can't find it right now |
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ashimema |
we've been using ICU in all cases for all customers for many years |
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caroline |
that is good to know, that means nothing in french would be ranked |
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cait |
only if you use icu, i think you don't strictly have to with French |
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cait |
you absolutely need it if your records use non-latin scripts |
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cait |
hebrew, arabic, sanscrit |
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caroline |
ins't icu used to search for é, è, ê when you type e |
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cait |
everything that can be mapped to a latin character is fine |
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caroline |
? |
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cait |
you can also do that with standard Zebra config - without isu |
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cait |
icu |
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cait |
make the diacritics work, that is |
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caroline |
ah ok |
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cait |
but then you need a mapping for each diacritic to a base character |
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cait |
so ICU is easier there |
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cait |
ICU also breaks exact search |
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cait |
which is why we don't use it for the really big libraries we have |
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cait |
ti,ext:Nature |
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cait |
for finding especially that one that is just nature... if you have alot of records about the same topics that is really helpful |
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caroline |
yes we noticed that during a training |
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caroline |
thankfully, that was written in the manual :) |
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* ashimema |
will dig into that tomorrow.. I'm pretty confident that we use ICU |
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cait |
Note: If multiple results have the same relevancy score, they will be |
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cait |
sorted by biblionumber as second criteria. |
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cait |
is that correct in english? |
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caroline |
sounds ok |
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ashimema |
we found that with ICU the only combination of prefs that seemed to consistently work OK was |
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ashimema |
QueryAutoTruncate - only if *added |
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ashimema |
QueryFuzzy - don't try |
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ashimema |
QueryStemming - Try |
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ashimema |
with the exception that that combination breaks boolean operators |
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cait |
hm |
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cait |
i think our booleans used to work |
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cait |
haven't tested in a long time |
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cait |
there is sooooo much we should document |
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cait |
from the hive brain |
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ashimema |
we also have some zebra config level changes that fix apostrophe searching fairly well |
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caroline |
I know! there is so much info lying around even just on irc |
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cait |
i use a merged sort file |
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cait |
from all the existing sort files |
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cait |
heh |
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cait |
because... goehte libraries |
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ashimema |
we should kill off the koha side prefs as much as possible and let such functionality be handled at the indexing engine level.. |
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cait |
hm? |
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ashimema |
half the issues we have with search can be derived from the fact that we completely butcher the search terms before they get to the search engine |
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cait |
got another hard one next htat looks wrong |
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cait |
$ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-authorities-dom.cfg -g iso2709 -d authorities init |
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cait |
$ zebraidx -c /etc/koha/zebradb/zebra-biblios.cfg -g iso2709 -d biblios init |
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cait |
i don't think the -g iso thing looks right |
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ashimema |
anywho.. I get the distinct feeling these days that's no-ones interesing in fixing zebra stuff now ;) |
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cait |
resettiing zebra indexes |
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cait |
i am interested... but that doesn't help much i guess |
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cait |
i still think we need to keep it working |
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ashimema |
hehe |
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cait |
thinking about smaller libraries with not so good hardware |
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cait |
same reason we didn't want to replace with solr |
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cait |
so... someone for resetting zebra indexes? :) |
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rangi |
yeah, elastic is going to be too heavy for 90% of koha users |
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rangi |
we represent (for the most part) the other 10% but we cant leave the 90 behind |
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cait |
http://paste.koha-community.org/439 |
| 20:49 |
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cait |
exactly |
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ashimema |
agreed |
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* cait |
removes FRBRizing content because XISBN is dead |
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ashimema |
did we not find an alternative in the end? |
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caroline |
I didn't know FRBR depended on XISBN |
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caroline |
that is sad |
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cait |
the editions might still work, but it was talking about xisbn only |
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cait |
not sure how the editions work - something more to document - oi |
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caroline |
I would love to see FRBR groupings in the OPAC |
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cait |
I am noticing some errors in the |
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cait |
koha-zebradaemon-output.log file... |
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cait |
we aren't using that anymore.. do we? |
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cait |
hm it's also written completely for non-package installs predating the indexer |
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ashimema |
lol |
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cait |
still helpful or reomve? http://paste.koha-community.org/440 |
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cait |
this is 18.11 manual, woudl still be in the manuals for the older vresions |
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* ashimema |
clocks off.. knackered. |
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ashimema |
night #koha |
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cait |
night ashimema |
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cait |
am i the only one that thinks talking as 'I' in the manual doesn't make sense if it's not a real quote with source? |
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cait |
I know there have been a lot of questions on receipt printers... |
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cait |
who is I? |
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wahanui |
you are really good at running into things |
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cait |
hmpf |
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cait |
wahanui: i think you might be right there |
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wahanui |
cait: i'm not following you... |
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caroline |
I'm guessing "I" is Nicole |
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caroline |
but I agree with you, it doesn't make sense anymore |
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cait |
i've rewritten some parts |
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caroline |
cait++ |
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cait |
not perfect stilll... continuous improvement? |
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caroline |
of course! like everything else in life :) |
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cait |
merge request submitted |
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caroline |
should I be the one to merge? not sure if I have the rights |
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cait |
dunno, rangi? :) |
| 21:25 |
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rangi |
give it a go :) |
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cait |
"I’ve just installed Koha, I haven’t touched any settings, and I can’t add patrons! Why?" recommends adding patron categories etc... i think with the onboarding this should now not happen? |
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rangi |
caroline: i just gave you developer access so you should be able to merge |
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caroline |
rangi: can you walk me through? I see a "Merge" button, but it is greyed out |
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caroline |
ah ! |
| 21:27 |
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rangi |
so maybe refresh and it will be green :) |
| 21:27 |
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cait |
"There is currently not a tool within Koha to batch modify bibliographic records. All things going well, Bug 11395 will be included in version 3.20." *sigh* |
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huginn |
Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=11395 new feature, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, CLOSED FIXED, Batch modifications for records |
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rangi |
heh |
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ashimema |
Lol |
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cait |
Koha uses 3 cookies : |
| 21:28 |
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cait |
you wish... |
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caroline |
rangi: still grey... I logged out and relogged in |
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caroline |
it says "Ready to be merged automatically. Ask someone with write access to this repository to merge this request" |
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rangi |
ohhh lemme check |
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rangi |
try that now please |
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caroline |
ooh! I saw it appear" |
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caroline |
rangi: is it better to "merge when the pipeline succeeds" or "merge immediately"? |
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caroline |
and is it supposed to take a long time? |
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rangi |
in our case for the manual |
| 21:37 |
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rangi |
merge immediately is fine |
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caroline |
I chose merge immediately and the button changed to "merge in progress", but I feel like it's taking a long time |
| 21:38 |
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rangi |
the merge takes a little while |
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caroline |
ok thanks! |
| 21:39 |
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rangi |
cait: can you also check your runners? |
| 21:40 |
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rangi |
and/or cancel the pending ones? https://gitlab.com/kfischer1/k[…]-manual/pipelines |
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cait |
oh |
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cait |
i thought i'd managed to turn them off |
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rangi |
i think gitlab has changed something |
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cait |
not sur ehow to cancel hhem |
| 21:41 |
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cait |
looking, but not seeing it |
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rangi |
yeah, i dunno either |
| 21:41 |
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rangi |
its something to do with the new autodevops or something |
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rangi |
maybe there is a settin gyou can turn autodevops off? |
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cait |
found it... it opened int he wrong browser where i was not logge din |
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cait |
*hides* |
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rangi |
hehe |
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caroline |
happens to me all the time :) I wonder why I can't send a merge request... duh! :) |
| 21:43 |
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caroline |
ah! Are you supposed to cancel the pipeline if I'm not done merging? |
| 21:43 |
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rangi |
i think its still waiting for the pipeline to finish in caits repo, and it never will |
| 21:44 |
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caroline |
It says "Something went wrong. Please try again" and the "merge in progress" button is red |
| 21:44 |
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rangi |
if you go back now, do you ahve yeah it was still waiting, so try the merge again |
| 21:45 |
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caroline |
it worked! thx rangi++ |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
cool |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
there shoudl be a checkbox, but i am not seeing it |
| 21:45 |
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cait |
https://docs.gitlab.com/ee/wor[…]ry_mirroring.html |
| 21:45 |
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rangi |
yeah |
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cait |
hm eah, not spotting an option to turn off :( |
| 21:48 |
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cait |
I'll try this |
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cait |
add and remove |
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cait |
https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/[…]b-ce/issues/50407 |
| 21:49 |
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rangi |
right, worth a try |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
ok |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
after removing it twice the option showed up |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
and I DIDN'T check it |
| 21:50 |
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cait |
we'll see next patch if it works |
| 21:51 |
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rangi |
*fingers crossed* |
| 21:52 |
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cait |
does it still publish automatically? |
| 21:52 |
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rangi |
yep |
| 21:53 |
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rangi |
https://koha-community.org/manual/19.05/en/html/ <--master |
| 21:53 |
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rangi |
https://koha-community.org/manual/18.11/en/html/ <-- manual18.11.x branch |
| 21:53 |
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rangi |
caroline: do you want to learn how to cherry pick that merge back to the 18.11 manual too? |
| 21:54 |
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caroline |
yes! |
| 21:54 |
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caroline |
I saw a cherry pick button |
| 21:54 |
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rangi |
thats exactly what you click on |
| 21:54 |
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cait |
caroline++ :) |
| 21:54 |
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rangi |
if it has gone |
| 21:54 |
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rangi |
you can find the commit |
| 21:54 |
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rangi |
https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]cb438cdcd77c5df67 |
| 21:55 |
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caroline |
Do I check "Start a new merge request with these changes"? |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
then in the options menu, choose cherry-pick |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
i dont |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
but you can |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
its up to you |
| 21:55 |
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caroline |
"The merge request has been successfully cherry-picked into manual18.11.x." :D |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
if you choose that, it makes a new merge request that you can go merge |
| 21:55 |
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rangi |
if you dont, it does that :) |
| 21:56 |
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caroline |
What's the difference? |
| 21:56 |
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rangi |
if its something you are unsure of, then checking it will mean someone else can go look and decide to merge or not |
| 21:56 |
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caroline |
ah ok! |
| 21:57 |
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cait |
guess most workflows involve more people heh |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
heh yeah |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
im happy to leave stuff for you caroline |
| 21:57 |
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rangi |
and if you want me to look, just do a comment, or a new merge request on the cherry pick or whatever |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
and ill be a second pair of eyes |
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caroline |
ok! |
| 21:58 |
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caroline |
I'm sure this one was easy... I'm probably going to need your help in the future |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
they are mostly like that |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
i'd not move that one: Can Koha globally edit authority records or any elements in the bib. record? |
| 21:58 |
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rangi |
its only when someone submits one and they havent updated their version in ages |
| 21:58 |
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cait |
it seems too general |
| 21:59 |
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cait |
can Koha... |
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cait |
question |
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wahanui |
question is probably a bit general |
| 22:18 |
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cait |
should we just remove the faq link form the website when i am done? |
| 22:19 |
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cait |
I'd like to link to the manual page.. but then we'd have to update for each version |
| 22:20 |
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caroline |
You're right |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
there is a post release check list page in the wiki |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
we could add it as a note there at least... if we link to the most recent manual |
| 22:21 |
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caroline |
I think as long as there are links to all the resources (wiki, manual, etc), there's no need to have a link specific to the faq |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
agree |
| 22:21 |
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cait |
os i am going to finish moving this and then take a look how to disable on the website |
| 22:43 |
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caroline |
good night everyone! |
| 22:52 |
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cait |
night caroline! |
| 22:52 |
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cait |
oh... |
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* CrispyBran |
looks over at the IRC |
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rangi |
https://twitter.com/SaraMG/sta[…]70713633812951040 we should do this |
| 23:15 |
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rangi |
the dates of initial release, active support etc |
| 23:15 |
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rangi |
so people can see, stop using 3.22 |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
ok, for the logs: I removed the FAQ from the website by archiving the page, that removes it from the navigation. For the people having booksmarks, I added a hint that things have been moved: https://koha-community.org/documentation/faq/ |
| 23:17 |
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cait |
entries are still in wordpress, so nothing is lost yet |
| 23:18 |
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cait |
where should we put it? |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
maybe have a What Version should I install page |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
linked off the front |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
then we can just send the url to people :) |
| 23:18 |
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rangi |
"should I upgrade?" |
| 23:18 |
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cait |
rangi: bad news... it's still starting a pipeline :( |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
how annoying |
| 23:19 |
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cait |
yeah |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
you'll just have to cancel it, ill see if i can figure out how to make it only do the deploy on the main one |
| 23:19 |
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cait |
i have canceled it |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
but do syntax checks for everyone else |
| 23:19 |
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cait |
ok |
| 23:19 |
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rangi |
then having it run wont be so bad |
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Joubu |
rangi: I thought about that few months ago, we could have an admin page that would hit a koha community webservice serving such info |
| 23:36 |
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Joubu |
Or simply a wiki/website page :) |
| 23:38 |
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rangi |
yeah |
| 23:39 |
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rangi |
a website page would be nice, we get so many im running koha from 1932 why doesn't it work type emails :) |
| 23:39 |
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rangi |
so a page that lists versions and how old they are is a nice thing to be able to point people at |
| 23:42 |
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Joubu |
I wish we had a kanban (or stuff) to add such new task ;) |
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* Joubu |
is running away |
| 23:42 |
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rangi |
hehe |
| 23:42 |
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Joubu |
bye #koha! |
| 23:42 |
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cait |
bye Joubu |
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rangi |
man proprietary vendors are clowns |
