IRC log for #koha, 2018-09-27

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02:13 mtompset Have a great day, #koha dcook :)
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06:03 ashimema Lucy is one of ours rangi and caroline
06:03 ashimema Former customer, but been an employee for a while now
06:04 ashimema Team effort between her and Janet yesterday on ILL... They've been trying to fit it in for ages...
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06:46 dcook Hmm getting errors trying to install kohadevbox on my desktop but successfully installed it on my laptop at Kohacon and the git repo hasn't changed between those times :(
06:47 dcook Oh but maybe it's one of the related repos..
06:47 tuxayo hi #koha o/
06:47 tuxayo dcook: which errors?
06:47 dcook TASK [kohadevbox : Tools | Install default tools] ******************************
06:47 dcook An exception occurred during task execution. To see the full traceback, use -vvv. The error was: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'SSL_ST_INIT'
06:47 dcook :/
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06:48 tuxayo >_<
06:48 dcook Hmm looks like a pretty straight forward Ansible task
06:49 dcook Might just need to try again...
06:49 tuxayo Which version of ansible do you have? (compare between the two machine maybe)
06:49 dcook Whichever one comes with kohadevbox. Let's see..
06:49 dcook 2.6.4
06:50 tuxayo dcook: It's a dep, it doesn't come with the DevBox
06:50 tuxayo https://gitlab.com/koha-commun[…]E.md#dependencies
06:51 dcook Ah, I run it on Windows
06:51 dcook So it uses it locally
06:51 tuxayo Anyway, i'ts version 2.0+
06:51 tuxayo So it should be good.
06:51 tuxayo Do you know the version of the other computer?
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06:52 reiveune hello
06:56 matts hi !
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06:58 dcook tuxayo: the other computer?
06:58 * dcook waves to matts
06:58 calire hi matts
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06:59 calire and dcook and tuxayo
06:59 dcook tuxayo: I'm just going to try re-doing it. I think there's some issues with the instructions for Windows anyway which I wanted to play with
06:59 dcook hey calire :)
06:59 tuxayo dcook: the one where the devbox works
06:59 tuxayo o/ calire
06:59 dcook tuxayo: Ahh I gotcha
06:59 dcook Both Windows 10 and should be equally up to date
07:00 dcook I've had intermitten issues with trying to set up a kohadevbox so I'll do a destroy and re-up it
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07:14 dcook And I'm back >_>
07:15 dcook I think Windows might've been mad about me doing 9 things at once...
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07:17 fridolin hi there
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08:45 Guest1662 Yippee, build fixed!
08:45 Guest1662 Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #106: FIXED in 38 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_17.05_D8/106/
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08:54 ashimema fridolin++
08:54 ashimema happy Jankins
08:54 fridolin wooooo
08:55 fridolin i was easy ;)
08:55 ashimema hehe, indeed.
08:55 ashimema that pretty much the last release for 17.05.x isn't it now?
08:56 ashimema can't remember what data you put on it.
09:08 ashimema s/data/date
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09:40 * cait1 waves
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09:45 cait1 @wunder Konstanz
09:45 huginn cait1: Konstanz, Germany :: Mostly Cloudy :: 56F/13C | Wind Chill: 56F/13C | Thursday: Considerable clouds this morning. Some decrease in clouds later in the day. High 73F. Winds light and variable. Thursday Night: A clear sky. Low 48F. Winds light and variable.
09:53 * cait1 waves
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10:11 cait1 so quiet
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10:32 cait1 bug 21423 :(
10:32 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21423 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , When removing one sub-permission all permissions of the module are removed
10:43 ashimema fun
10:43 ashimema cait1 :)
10:48 cait1 yep... *grump*
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11:59 ashimema anyone fancy a quick qa: bug 19271
11:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=19271 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, katrin.fischer, Signed Off , Show vendor name on ordered/spent lists
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12:09 marcelr hi #koha
12:10 oleonard Hi marcelr and #koha
12:10 marcelr o/
12:11 calire hi oleonard, marcelr
12:11 marcelr :)
12:21 cait1 oleonard: how many more?
12:22 cait1 and also hi all :)
12:24 cait1 hm possible that authority search via sru/z39.50 is broken if elasticsearch is active?
12:27 cait1 hm looks like my elasticsearch is generally broken *sighs*
12:29 cait1 http://paste.koha-community.org/95 - maybe someone has an idea?
12:34 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #68: SUCCESS in 25 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/68/
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12:47 * magnuse wishes there was a fast track into master for ill patches
12:49 cait1 we'll work on that
12:49 cait1 keep signing off
12:49 * cait1 got a qa date set up for next friday
12:49 * oleonard wishes there was a fast track into master for oleonard patches
12:49 oleonard :P
12:49 magnuse :-)
12:50 oleonard Actually having got my SCSS patches in I can't complain for quite a while.
12:50 * magnuse will bring lots of norwegian chocolate to Luleå is cait1 qa's the ill patches :-)
12:50 magnuse s/is/if/
12:50 * cait1 wishes there was a way to get her own patches in too :)
12:52 * magnuse wishes for more people with more time
12:53 cait1 oleonard: you ignored the bootstrap question... so it's still bad?
12:54 oleonard Huh?
12:55 oleonard Sorry cait1 I don't understand what you're referring to
12:56 cait1 ah i was asking earlier how many templates are left now
12:58 oleonard Oh sorry cait1 I don't think I saw your question
12:59 cait1 np :)
12:59 * oleonard doesn't usually ignore cait1
13:00 cait1 it feels like it were so many patches already, but probably not close enough for 18.11?
13:00 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #67: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/67/
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13:03 jamesrobinson Hi Koha people. Thanks to ashimema and oleonard for helping me out yesterday. I now have an instance of koha running on an AWS debian machine I can access
13:04 ashimema Yeah, well done jamesrobinson
13:04 magnuse jamesrobinson++ ashimema++ oleonard++
13:04 * ashimema will be back on the cait so/QA queue shortly
13:04 jamesrobinson has anyone here used the SIP2 interface?
13:07 jamesrobinson I've opened port 6001 on the firewall, for TCP and UDP, and I've run sudo koha-enable-sip <libraryname> and sudo koha-start-sip <libraryname>, so I would have thought that would be enough to get some sort of response if I try to `telnet x.x.x.x 6001`
13:08 jamesrobinson but i get "Could not open connection to the host, on port 6001: Connect failed"
13:08 jamesrobinson any ideas?
13:09 caroline good morning!
13:12 oleonard Sorry jamesrobinson, no idea on this one.
13:12 oleonard Hi caroline
13:14 calire hi caroline
13:15 tuxayo hi ashimema :) Got some time?
13:15 tuxayo hi caroline calire oleonard o/
13:16 calire hi tuxayo
13:16 tuxayo jamesrobinson: does is works on the machine itself? `telenet localhost 6001`
13:16 AndrewIsh jamesrobinson:  Can you check if it's listening: netstat --listen
13:17 cait1 good morning caroline :)
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13:21 cait1 hi tcohen :)
13:24 ashimema back now
13:29 jamesrobinson "-bash: telnet: command not found" aww man
13:30 jamesrobinson admin@ip-172-31-31-173:~$ telnet localhost 6001 Trying 127.0.0.1... Connected to localhost.
13:30 jamesrobinson oooh
13:32 magnuse jamesrobinson: in your SIPconfig.xml, try switching the protocol from telnet to RAW?
13:32 jamesrobinson but i can't see anything on port 6001 in netstat --listen
13:32 magnuse cait1: does your es have enough space?
13:35 jamesrobinson maybe I have to add the port to iptables
13:36 * ashimema jenkins inbound
13:37 magnuse jamesrobinson: yes, you need to open the SIP2 port in iptables, if you use that
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13:40 jamesrobinson adding it in iptables didn't seem to help
13:40 jamesrobinson it looks like 6001 is already within range that is open by defauklt
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13:40 jamesrobinson default
13:40 jamesrobinson however... I noticed in SIPconfig.xml it had this: <service       port="127.0.0.1:6001/tcp"       transport="RAW"       protocol="SIP/2.00"
13:41 jamesrobinson but also: <service       port="8023/tcp"       transport="telnet"
13:41 jamesrobinson so when using telnet for SIP perhaps I need to use port 8023
13:41 jamesrobinson I opened up the port and when attempting to connect remotely via port 8023 I got a prompt for login username and password
13:41 jamesrobinson so that seems like progress!
13:44 Dyrcona jamesrobinson: You probably want to get 6001 working because most SIP clients are going to use the RAW transport and not telnet. (Telnet could probably be removed and no one would notice, except for some really tiny library somewhere.)
13:44 jamesrobinson ok
13:44 jamesrobinson I did download a SIP testing tool (I think from 3M) but it couldn't seem to connect on port 6001 either
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13:45 jamesrobinson it did have AO and AP fields that I left blank though. Not sure what those could be. autopass?
13:48 Dyrcona I typically use https://github.com/Dyrcona/PHPSIP2 or https://github.com/berick/pysip2 for SIP2 testing, but they both require you to write a test script.
13:52 Dyrcona jamesrobinson: Are you sending a 93 login message first and is that working?
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13:55 oleonard Joubu: Do you agree that my patch for Bug 21418 should not be failed QA?
13:55 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21418 critical, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, Failed QA , Incorrectly filtered markup in staff client lists
14:00 jamesrobinson well... so `telnet localhost 6001` on the machine itself works... but doing it remotely doesn't, so something is blocking the port. but the firewall (AWS security group) is fine, and I tried adding it to iptables
14:01 jamesrobinson I can access port 8023 remotely... but that's telnet
14:02 Dyrcona jamesrobinson: You can change the port in SIPConfig.xml and it should work, just swap the port numbers between telnet and raw transports.
14:03 Dyrcona You'll have to restart SIPServer after, of course.
14:03 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #68: UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/68/
14:03 jamesrobinson good plan!
14:06 ashimema poop
14:09 jamesrobinson hmm didn't work, but now I can telnet remotely using port 6001. this is weird
14:09 jamesrobinson hang on hang on hang on
14:09 jamesrobinson from earlier...
14:09 jamesrobinson I noticed in SIPconfig.xml it had this: <service       port="127.0.0.1:6001/tcp"       transport="RAW"       protocol="SIP/2.00"
14:09 jamesrobinson but also: <service       port="8023/tcp"       transport="telnet"
14:09 jamesrobinson maybe for the RAW one it should be port="6001/tcp"
14:10 jamesrobinson so it's not limited to connections from localhost/127.0.0.1
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14:11 jamesrobinson bingo!
14:14 jamesrobinson Dyrcona: thanks. your suggestion didn't fix it but it helped identify that it wasn't the problem!
14:16 Dyrcona jamesrobinson: Oh, yeah. That 127.0.0.1 tells it to listen on that IP address. You can replace it with the public IP address or delete the 127.0.0.1. I *should* have noticed that before. :/
14:17 jamesrobinson we all missed it
14:18 jamesrobinson but focusing on the positives... I just made a successful request for patronstatus from my local machine across the interwebs
14:18 jamesrobinson obviously i know it's a bad idea to use sip2 across the internet, but I'm just tasked to learn about the protocol
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14:24 jamesrobinson Presumably libraries which have self-service kiosks using the SIP protocol will have some sort of VPN to where the LMS is hosted. Anyone had any experience with this?
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14:25 oleonard jamesrobinson: You overestimate libraries' and vendors' understanding and/or concern about the security of sip2
14:25 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #69: UNSTABLE in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/69/
14:25 cait1 jamesrobinson: ssh tunnel
14:25 cait1 but you have to tell them to do that, the vendors
14:32 AndrewIsh jajm:  Thanks for the QA on 21377, much appreciated
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14:41 tcohen hi
14:51 jajm AndrewIsh, thanks for the patch ;)
14:53 AndrewIsh hi tcohen :)
15:02 reiveune bye
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15:03 ashimema jajm thanks for working through shib bugs :)
15:05 tcohen hi AndrewIsh
15:08 Freddy_Enrique Good morning guys :)
15:11 cait1 next shift arriving :)
15:13 * Freddy_Enrique doesn't feel like asking today
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15:13 ashimema ?
15:14 jajm ashimema, looking at your follow up right now, i can still login by just showing up the login form using devtools, i think it would be better to forbid local login at another level (but i don't know where...)
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15:25 * CrispyBran waves
15:27 oleonard Hi CrispyBran
15:28 * ashimema hopes to have apeased the Jenkins god once more
15:29 ashimema yeah.. I agree jajm
15:29 ashimema had a feeling you'd spot that ;)
15:29 ashimema worth a try aye..
15:29 ashimema i best dig a bit further.. it's been too long in the side lines.. one of those cases of I've forgotten how it all works :(
15:36 * cait1 is happy to see the work on shibboleth patches
15:36 cait1 ashimema: would i be right to interpret your comment on bug 17776 as we should push the patch?
15:36 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack
15:38 cait1 i am not sure how all the parts work
15:42 ashimema I think so..
15:43 ashimema it's not 100% as secure as perhaps it should be.. but to get to 100% basically means re-writing koha in another framework
15:43 ashimema I know of a plethora of apps doing it the way I've proposed
15:43 ashimema I kinda want kidclamp to weigh in
15:44 ashimema or anyone else security minded and auth conscious
15:44 cait1 matts: around?
15:45 cait1 ashimema: your patch is missing the bug number in the subject ;)
15:45 cait1 matts: are you still standing with your sign-off on bug 17776?
15:45 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=17776 normal, P5 - low, ---, martin.renvoize, Failed QA , Shibboleth Authentication is broken in plack
15:45 ashimema it's an ancient patch ;)
15:45 ashimema I can fix those points easily
15:45 cait1 kidclamp: could you weigh in on 17776? plz?
15:45 cait1 i know, i just noticed because i was looking for it to type here
15:46 cait1 oleonard: thx for the follow-up!
15:47 cait1 ashimema: did you see bug 21432 reported for 18.05?
15:48 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21432 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Internal Server Error in Checkout History
15:48 ashimema ooh.. thanks cait
15:48 ashimema I hadn't
15:48 cait1 might be something like a missing itemtype, it's not very clear
15:48 cait1 but maybe you can test quickly
15:48 * ashimema needs to setup a better watcher for such bugs reported against my version
15:49 cait1 it has version unspecified - it's in the text
15:49 cait1 master seems ok, at least my history shows alright
15:49 cait1 ok it has 18.05... too many tabs open here
15:51 CrispyBran I'm doing a test on master, and trying to cancel a hold in a patron account.  I am getting an error thrown for modrequest.pl.  Anyone know about this?
15:52 ashimema I'll take a look in a moment cait
15:52 CrispyBran Duplicate ID at /usr/share/perl5/Exception/Class/Base.pm line 73
15:53 CrispyBran I can't seem to cancel the hold from the user account or from the item record.
15:53 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #69: STILL UNSTABLE in 26 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/69/
15:54 ashimema :'(
15:54 ashimema Jenkins.. you don't like me today
15:55 cait1 CrispyBran: can you check system information on about page?
15:55 CrispyBran cait1: what in particular?
15:56 cait1 if it lists errors about duplicate ids
15:57 CrispyBran Don't know where it would show, but I am not seeing anything like that on the page.
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15:59 CrispyBran wait
15:59 CrispyBran Problems found
15:59 CrispyBran Holds
15:59 CrispyBran The following ids exist in both tables holds and old_reserves:
15:59 CrispyBran 1, 2, 3
16:02 CrispyBran Looking at the auto_increment_fix now.
16:04 cait1 for your dev environment a reset all or just deleting the double ups in old_reserves should usually be enough
16:07 ashimema jajm.. I've altered that last patch a bit now
16:08 ashimema I'm stuck here at the moment without a shibboleth test environment so I'm afraid I'm a bit in the dark
16:08 ashimema hopefully i've made the incision in the right place.. I'm sure it could be slightly more elegant .
16:09 Guest1662 Yippee, build fixed!
16:09 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D9 build #70: FIXED in 40 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D9/70/
16:11 CrispyBran cait: noticing that the error states: The following ids exist in both tables holds and old_reserves.  There is no holds table.  This should be saying reserves.  Shouldn't it?
16:11 cait1 yesit should
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16:15 Guest1662 Yippee, build fixed!
16:15 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_D8 build #70: FIXED in 22 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_18.05_D8/70/
16:18 CrispyBran cait: filed a bug for that.
16:18 ashimema cait1, I can't replicate anything with bug 21432.. I've asked for clarification
16:18 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21432 major, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , Internal Server Error in Checkout History
16:19 cait1 ashimema: maybe it's bad data
16:19 cait1 thx!
16:19 cait1 ashimema++
16:19 caroline You're all on fire today! Is there a deadline coming up?
16:19 ashimema mm, perhaps
16:19 cait1 kind of
16:19 cait1 not really soon. but deadlines have been announced
16:19 ashimema hehe
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16:42 cait1 oleonard:
16:42 cait1 oleonard++ thx a lot!
16:51 Guest1662 Yippee, build fixed!
16:51 Guest1662 Project Koha_18.05_U18 build #70: FIXED in 41 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]oha_18.05_U18/70/
16:53 cait1 CrispyBran: do you want to fix the problem with the misnamed table?
16:57 CrispyBran cait1: working on something else at the moment.  I filed the bug.  If I get time I can poke around and see if I can figure it out.
16:58 cait1 i might do it later, just wanted to check
16:59 CrispyBran bug 21441
16:59 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21441 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, NEW , System information gives reference to a non-existant table
17:02 cait1 yep i saw, thx )
17:04 CrispyBran cait1: on 18211, is the issue about touching a js that is not specific to koha?  Is it okay to touch koha specific js?
17:04 cait1 yes, the issue is that this is an external library we include
17:04 cait1 so we should not change it to be able to update it
17:05 cait1 koha specific should be ok
17:05 cait1 oleonard: right?
17:05 oleonard Correct
17:05 CrispyBran got it.  I understand now.  Now I just have to figure out the source of the issue.
17:07 cait1 257 changes in bugzilla today... and the dashboard looks about the same as this morning
17:07 barc anyone about familiar with adding new indexes ? I seem to have managed to add the index correcltly and I can use the new attribute via a yaz-client search but I can't get any results when passing the new idx to OPAC/Staff.??
17:07 cait1 heh
17:07 cait1 only more to do for kidclamp
17:07 cait1 did you change Search.pm too?
17:08 barc I did, Well, I added the new index to the @indexes array
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17:28 cait1 barc: how did you install koha?
17:28 cait1 and did you restart zebra and reindex?
17:28 cait1 restart memcached and plack?
17:31 barc installed via package. Yep, restarted everything at this stage. Very strange that I can get results via the command line. Just enabled some verbose logging on zebra and I can see it isn't trying my attribute when passed that idx
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19:43 CrispyBran cait1: got time for a question?
19:43 cait1 sure, what is it?
19:45 CrispyBran when checking in an item, returns.pl shows the shelving location.  If ReturnToShelvingCart is on, it shows only the cart location.  I am working on setting it to show the permanent location.  Do staff need to see the cart location as well when checking in, or should it just be assumed?
19:46 cait1 hm
19:46 cait1 my feeling is showing both might be nice
19:46 cait1 we could assume... but it would be clearer i guess?
19:47 CrispyBran Just seems a bit redundant, as you ARE checking it in.  I can do it.  Just wanted another opinion.
19:47 cait1 maybe get some more
19:48 cait1 :)
19:48 CrispyBran Anyone else?
19:49 CrispyBran I may just go ahead and show it, but pose the question in the bug.
19:51 caroline I'd show both as long as it's not too busy visually
19:52 CrispyBran I think it is going to depend on the description given for the cart.
20:09 CrispyBran bug 21444
20:09 huginn Bug http://bugs.koha-community.org[…]_bug.cgi?id=21444 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, cbrannon, Needs Signoff , Permanent location should show with cart location - returns.pl
20:17 caroline CrispyBran: I get your nick now! :) I thought you were a breakfast cereal megafan XD
20:19 cait1 i still think of cereals :)
20:35 rangi caroline: https://www.openhub.net/p/koha[…]tributors/summary  all the new ones from kohacon and since
20:35 caroline +1!
20:35 caroline And I'm there twice?
20:36 caroline Lol, I love Joubu's mega barcode
20:39 rangi caroline: yeah not sure how, i think some maybe cos you did the commit on the commandline and your name was different?
20:39 rangi http://git.koha-community.org/[…]docs/authors.html
20:39 rangi one is carolinecyrlarose
20:40 rangi but nothing on that one since may
20:41 caroline Yeah, I don't know what I did differently between february and may,,,
20:42 cait1 maybe you can merge them if you claim both are you
20:44 caroline I'd be curious to leave the 2nd one there and see if she ever becomes active again. Maybe I'll understand what I do differently
20:44 cait1 or you just like the idea of multiple carolines :)
20:44 cait1 well, who wouldn't
20:45 caroline hehehe!
20:45 caroline aw, you're too nice! :)
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21:27 CrispyBran caroline: What makes my nickname even better - My middle initial is P.  :)  Christopher P Brannon  :P
21:36 cait1 paul?
21:36 cait1 peter?
21:38 CrispyBran Paul
21:39 CrispyBran Good guess
21:40 cait1 :)
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