IRC log for #koha, 2018-01-18

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00:06 mtompset gmcharlt: I think wunder is horribly US-ian-centric.
00:09 wizzyrea it's worse than it used to be, it seems
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00:12 pianohacker yo
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00:47 mtompset Greetings, gmcharlt wizzyrea pianohacker :)
00:47 mtompset @seen Joubu
00:47 huginn mtompset: Joubu was last seen in #koha 7 hours, 23 minutes, and 36 seconds ago: <Joubu> kohagit32??
00:47 mtompset I fear to look up what that conversation was about.
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01:00 TGoat good night everyone!
01:01 wizzyrea later
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01:39 mtompset Have a good night.
01:40 mtompset Have a great day (24 hour period).
01:40 mtompset Lack of caffeine reverted to bad exit. :)
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07:24 cait still stuck trying to figure out 20001 - fixed a template bug, but now stuck on the next error
07:24 cait bug 20001
07:24 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20001 blocker, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, REOPENED , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC is not possible
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07:38 reiveune hello
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07:46 magnuse ~~~
07:46 alex_a bonjour
07:46 wahanui que tal, alex_a
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08:06 marcelr hi #koha
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08:16 gaetan_B hello
08:16 wahanui what's up, gaetan_B
08:29 paxed any way to recover my old bugzilla user? the email i used isn't available anymore
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08:35 tuxayo hi #koha o/
08:38 andreashm hi tuxayo
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08:55 * andreashm is curious if anyone in the qa team is looking at bug 19469? =)
08:55 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19469 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Signed Off , Add ability to split view of holds view on record by pickup library and/or itemtype
08:56 cait not sure someone started yet, but we will get to it
08:57 * andreashm wishes he could to thmubs up on irc
08:57 andreashm thumbs up.
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08:58 fridolin hi
09:00 cait hi fridolin
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09:00 fridolin cait: bonjour
09:00 wahanui bidet, fridolin
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09:06 BLUE_ICE hello
09:07 andreashm hi
09:07 wahanui privet, andreashm
09:07 BLUE_ICE how to run on the web for client?
09:08 BLUE_ICE url:8080 is running but the client page is not running
09:08 cait you mean the opac?
09:08 BLUE_ICE yes cait
09:08 cait the frontend for the users of the library
09:08 BLUE_ICE yes please help
09:09 BLUE_ICE i gues i miss to install?
09:10 BLUE_ICE im running Koha version:
09:10 cait are you just starting to use Koha?
09:10 cait so is this a fresh installation?
09:11 cait the OPAC is always installed, more likely to be an Apache issue - but 3.18 is super old, you should not use that
09:11 BLUE_ICE actually it was running 1 year i leave it for a year
09:11 cait 3.20, 3.22, 16.05, 16.11, 17.05, 17.11 released since
09:12 BLUE_ICE so need to install a new one?
09:12 BLUE_ICE how can i backup my files ? sorry for this newbie on opac :)
09:13 BLUE_ICE or what about upgrading?
09:13 BLUE_ICE is the files losT?
09:15 cait IosT?
09:17 BLUE_ICE lost i mean
09:21 BLUE_ICE just asking how to backup the database and patch it on the new installations possible?
09:22 cait update will depend on how you installed, but of course it will be possible
09:23 cait dumping your mysql database is enough if you didn't change files locally
09:23 cait it has your data and all of the configuration
09:23 cait updated should always be tested first - having a test installation to do that with is always good
09:25 magnuse acquisitions.pref#CurrencyFormat# 360'000.00 (CH) - what does the CH mean?
09:25 cait if you aren't using package installations yet, you might want to do that :)
09:25 cait magnuse: swiss
09:28 magnuse cait: thanks
09:37 BLUE_ICE i will be back tomorrow have no time :) need your help when i get back here :)
09:37 BLUE_ICE thanks cait
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09:55 cait hi paul_p
09:55 paul_p hi cait. Seen your email about the hackfest. Great !
09:55 paul_p (will send you the link to gdoc later)
09:56 cait thx!
09:56 cait paul_p: going to advertise hea in my presentation in India
09:59 paul_p cait ++++++
09:59 paul_p cait (I didn't knew you're going to India. Where ? which conf ? )
09:59 cait Library Technology Conclave - next week
10:01 paul_p where is it in India ?
10:01 cait Goa
10:05 clrh Hi, who is Mike 'black 23) on bz ?
10:06 cait i think it's someone from czech - did you check his email ?
10:06 clrh black23 on gmail
10:06 clrh I am discovering your convesration about gdpr
10:06 clrh and wiki page
10:06 wahanui it has been said that wiki page is not completely up to date, but it should give you an idea of the steps involved
10:06 clrh and bz 18081
10:12 magnuse gdpr?
10:12 magnuse gdpr is bug 18081 and https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nd_patron_privacy
10:12 magnuse gdpr?
10:12 wahanui i heard gdpr was bug 18081 and https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]nd_patron_privacy
10:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18081 new feature, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, In Discussion , [omnibus] GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation)
10:12 cait magnuse: new european laws for data privacy etc
10:12 magnuse i know, just training wahanui :-)
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11:13 fridolin yop, koha-perldeps unstable is still in 17.06, should be in 17.12 no ?
11:32 alex_a @seen tcohen
11:32 huginn alex_a: I have not seen tcohen.
11:34 tuxayo Hi, I'm trying the KohaDevBox but after getting into the box. What one must to do have a usable instance? What I did:
11:34 tuxayo - Install missing deps (libsearch-elasticsearch-perl)
11:35 tuxayo - reset_all
11:35 tuxayo logs:
11:35 tuxayo DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.date_renewed' in 'field list'
11:37 cait yu should not need to install somehting i think
11:37 cait it should just work
11:37 cait localhost:8080 an dlocalhost:8081
11:38 cait and for elasticsearch check the github page - there is a param i think, but haven't quite mastered that yet
11:38 tuxayo cait: the install of a dep was necessary to avoid a compile error
11:38 cait hm
11:38 cait not sure there
11:38 wahanui i guess not sure there is a better way to do it
11:38 tuxayo the goal is not even to use ES, just to run the tests and QA tools
11:39 cait yep
11:39 cait so what happens when you go to localhost:8080?
11:39 cait from your host
11:40 tuxayo cait: oh the OPAC work
11:40 cait :)
11:40 tuxayo but "Internal Server Error" in staff
11:40 cait try restart_all
11:40 cait in vagrant ssh
11:40 tuxayo cait: already done
11:40 cait no change?
11:41 tuxayo a search in the opac gives «Internal Server Error»
11:41 cait take a look at the plack log - koha-plack-err
11:41 tuxayo cait: that's were «DBD::mysql::st execute failed: Unknown column 'me.date_renewed'» comes from
11:41 cait hm
11:41 cait are you on the master branch?
11:41 tuxayo Has anyone done a fresh DevBox recently?
11:43 cait it sounds liek there is some mismatch with your schema
11:43 cait i'd check you are on master and maybe try a reset_all
11:43 cait bbl
11:43 tuxayo Yep, I'm on master. I'll do another reset_all
11:45 tuxayo cait: now it works. I don't get why?
11:46 tuxayo Maybe we had to do a `reset_all` after a `dbic`. That's what we tried before.
11:49 tuxayo cait: should I just have needed a `reset_all` after the first ssh login?
11:59 tcohen dbic runs against a separate db
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12:30 cait reset all gives you a clean db
12:30 cait maybe something from testing was odd?
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12:42 LibraryClaire oleonard angry?
12:42 oleonard No I'm good :)
12:43 LibraryClaire :D
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13:16 tuxayo I confirm that one has to install libsearch-elasticsearch-perl on a fresh DevBox
13:19 tuxayo Is there a way to have a working DevBox with just commands? (not using the web installer).
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13:32 cait tuxayo: don't know how but i think so - you could load a sample db
13:32 cait into the empty db
13:34 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-01-18_13:34:43.txt <[…]baTnxQxrZSpKqEnCF>
13:35 tcohen @later tell matts I updated the RFC, but didn't fill all the holes
13:35 huginn tcohen: The operation succeeded.
13:35 tcohen https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]unds_endpoint_RFC
13:36 oleonard git fetch... "fatal: Could not read from remote repository."
13:37 oleonard anyone else having that problem today?
13:37 tuxayo All tests successful.
13:37 tuxayo :D
13:41 tcohen next meetings?
13:41 wahanui next meetings is https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]Next_IRC_meetings
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13:49 oleonard Perhaps I've done something to offend git and git is shunning me?
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13:51 Joubu oleonard: I get fatal: read error: Connection reset by peer
13:51 Joubu so it's not you :)
13:52 tuxayo DevBox users: can someone try `cd /home/vagrant/qa-test-tools; prove -v t/Perl.t` to check if their QA Tools work?
13:52 tuxayo I have two error in my DevBox but don't know if that's to be expected.
13:52 magnuse oleonard: "Never attribute to chance that which is adequately explained by malice"?
13:52 tuxayo magnuse: Don't we usually say the contrary? :-P
13:52 magnuse hehe, probably
13:53 Joubu tuxayo: fail for me as well
13:53 oleonard No, I think magnuse has captured my outlook perfectly.
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13:58 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
13:59 tuxayo Joubu: So we have 2 tests (of the QA Tools test suite) that fail in my non-DevBox install and my DevBox install and your DevBox install. Then it's worth a bug report for the QA tools right?
14:00 Joubu tuxayo: yes, there is the "Project Infrastructure" project on bugzilla
14:00 tuxayo Joubu: thanks :)
14:02 Joubu tuxayo: sounds like the verbose flag does not work correctly
14:02 Joubu it is just an output issue I guess
14:03 Joubu try `qa -c 1 -v 1` and `qa -c 1 -v 2`
14:03 Joubu the output is the same, -v 1 should only display the filename, not the details
14:07 tuxayo Joubu: I ran the suite with `prove -v t/Perl.t` so I don't know where to make these changes.
14:09 tuxayo Joubu: understood
14:10 tuxayo You meant to try these commands on a koha repo to see that the output is the same.
14:10 Joubu yes
14:11 Joubu I will take care of that, it should be easy to fix for me. Unless you want to :)
14:12 tuxayo Here is the report bug 20029
14:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20029 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, NEW , Verbosity issue that makes the QA tools test suite report 2 failures
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14:18 tuxayo Joubu: It's the first time I use this tool, so I don't feel it would be efficient to dive in it's code now ^^"
14:19 tuxayo Joubu: Maybe for the DevBox if there are easy fixes to make it work with Ubuntu 16.04 (xenial)
14:19 tuxayo (I haven't proved yet)
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14:21 * tuxayo sent a long message: tuxayo_2018-01-18_14:21:40.txt <[…]sKpXBPtyYctbCCvHi>
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14:29 Joubu tuxayo: git bz config
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14:57 tuxayo Joubu: Successfully applying a patch is enough?
14:58 Joubu yes
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14:58 tuxayo Joubu: thanks, now I can enjoy the DevBox :D
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15:15 tuxayo QA Test Tools: How does one tests HEAD? I ran `qa -v 1 -c 1` and it tested HEAD~1
15:15 Joubu c is the number of commit
15:15 Joubu so -c 1 will test HEAD
15:16 Joubu it checkouts HEAD~1, run the tests, checkouts HEAD, run the tests, and compare the result ouput
15:16 Joubu output
15:16 tcohen tuxayo: it compares HEAD with 1 less
15:18 tuxayo Thanks, I missunderstood the message «testing 1 commit(s) (applied to 94cd276 'Bug 19918: Close span tag in opac-reg')»
15:18 tuxayo That indeed means that it's testing my commit which is HEAD
15:18 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19918 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Stable , span tag not closed in
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16:12 clrh 'soir
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16:35 tuxayo mtompset++ thanks for the signoff of bug 19928 :)
16:35 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19928 normal, P5 - low, ---, victor.grousset, Signed Off , Acquisitions' CSV exports should honor syspref "delimiter"
16:36 mtompset tuxayo: No problem. I think the comment #21 is just a complaint about the test plan not being explicit enough for those unfamiliar with translation.
16:36 mtompset When you write test plans, assume the person knows nothing except how to read and follow instructions.
16:37 mtompset try not to leave "secret" knowledge implicit.
16:37 mtompset Yes, I'm bad: "run koha qa test tools"
16:38 mtompset Because to be honest, I had difficulty with the translation portion of the testing.
16:38 mtompset Because I don't know what fuzzy, etc. is.
16:38 mtompset This is why I generally avoid translation related bugs.
16:39 mtompset People don't write test plans so that I learn what the secret knowledge is.
16:39 mtompset Which is why I re-wrote the test plan for another bug I just signed off on, because the person couldn't figure out how to trigger the secondary case.
16:40 reiveune bye
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16:41 mtompset Speaking of secret knowledge...
16:41 mtompset @seen cait
16:41 huginn mtompset: cait was last seen in #koha 3 hours, 8 minutes, and 11 seconds ago: <cait> into the empty db
16:41 mtompset Actually, your name is on the list of people commenting, tuxayo
16:41 mtompset How do I trigger ILL?
16:42 tuxayo mtompset: I though `perl translate update YOUR_LANG` and `perl translate install YOUR_LANG` was explicit enough.
16:42 mtompset I enabled the ILL module system preference.
16:42 tuxayo mtompset: about bug 20001?
16:42 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20001 blocker, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Needs Signoff , ILL: Adding a 'new request' from OPAC is not possible
16:42 mtompset Yep.
16:42 mtompset Because it eyeballs perfectly.
16:42 mtompset It passed qa test tools.
16:43 mtompset I just want to trigger the change.
16:44 tuxayo mtompset: actually I tried to understand just to follow this bug that seemed important. And found the  error about pointing to the wrong comment. But I don't understand the issue as I don't know how ILL works.
16:44 tuxayo See you tomorrow all!
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17:00 mtompset Does anyone know about the interlibrary_loan section of the koha-conf.xml file?
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17:15 Joubu mtompset: see bug 7317
17:15 huginn Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=7317 new feature, P5 - low, ---, alex.sassmannshausen, Pushed to Master , Add an Interlibrary Loan Module to Circulation and OPAC
17:15 mtompset I'm almost there...
17:15 mtompset My problem is the stupid ILLIBS code doesn't seem to be changed.
17:16 mtompset I really hate caching...
17:17 Joubu mtompset: just pick the ill section of koha-conf.xml from the one in the repo
17:17 Joubu lunch time
17:17 mtompset restart all fixed my problem.
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17:45 cait Joubu++ mtompset++
17:45 cait :)
17:46 mtompset Thanks, cait.
17:55 mtompset YAY! For the next few minutes, at least, I'm #1 :)
17:56 mtompset  sign offs for January :)
18:02 cait heh
18:02 cait have to prepare presentations, so pretty out of it right now :( will be back
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19:17 barton happy birthday oleonard!
19:17 oleonard Thanks barton :)
19:17 oleonard I caught up with you again. Thanks for not lording it over me for the past couple of months.
19:18 * barton admits that he had to go on to facebook and make sure that it wasn't tomorrow.
19:18 oleonard I accept lavish gifts on both days.
19:19 * barton sends oleonard a gift certificate for
19:23 * oleonard gets matching t-shirt and ball cap
19:29 mtompset It's your birthday, oleonard? Happy Birthday!
19:29 oleonard Thanks mtompset!
19:43 barton oleonard: tomorrow it's a bushel of peach fuzz, and rabbit tracks on toast.
19:43 oleonard thumbs_up.png
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19:59 oleonard Bye all
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20:03 mtompset @seem khall
20:03 huginn mtompset: I've exhausted my database of quotes
20:04 mtompset @seen khall
20:04 huginn mtompset: I have not seen khall.
20:04 mtompset @seen khall_away
20:04 huginn mtompset: I have not seen khall_away.
20:04 mtompset Well, that is just lovely.
20:04 mtompset @later tell khall bug 18725 rebase. :)
20:04 huginn mtompset: The operation succeeded.
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20:33 blou holà Koha!
20:33 blou Any TT expert in the house today? :)
20:34 blou I'll throw my question to the wind anyway: how do we test for "if defined" in .tt ?
20:38 Joubu [% IF var.defined %]
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20:39 Joubu but... smells wrong :)
20:41 blou hahaha
20:42 blou hey, that works!!!  smells funny, but it's much cleaner than all the alternatives I've seen to far
20:43 blou [% ActionsLoo.from_field %][% IF ( ActionsLoo.from_subfield.defined ) %]$[% ActionsLoo.from_subfield %][% END %]
20:43 blou without your suggestion, I could not get the "$0" to display
20:48 blou thanks a lot for the help!
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23:51 bag bug 20039
23:51 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=20039 is not accessible.
23:52 bag @seen rangi
23:52 huginn bag: I have not seen rangi.
23:52 mtompset That's an interesting bug, bag
23:52 bag Joubu?  you about?

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