IRC log for #koha, 2017-11-16

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03:01 mtj hey #koha, have other people heard-of/used MCE before?   ... looks really useful
03:01 mtj
03:03 * mtj just stumbled upon it today
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03:27 mtj perhaps a better way of handling multiple MARC import jobs, on an instance
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05:55 maya hi, Good Morning to all - Maya
05:58 maya how we can monitor and find that our koha application is working fine? Is there any place or files that we should look for errors and messages frequently?
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06:37 LibraryClaire morning #koha
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07:00 Harold Hi
07:00 Harold Good day from the Philippines :)
07:01 Harold Can I ask some question about upgrading koha?
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07:17 jenkins Project Koha_16.05_D8 build #14: SUCCESS in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.05_D8/14/
07:19 magnuse Harold: ask whatever you want (related to koha) - if anyone can answer, they will
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07:25 reiveune hello
07:25 wahanui kia ora, reiveune
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07:44 alex_a bonjour
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07:51 fridolin1 hi dear community
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07:53 marcelr hi #koha
07:54 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
07:54 marcelr :)
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10:06 Harold Hi
10:06 Harold I have koha 3.12
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10:07 Harold I need to upgrade it to version 17 or 16
10:08 Harold how will I do it?
10:08 Harold apt-get update and apt-get upgrade on ubuntu 12.04 is not supported anymore
10:14 eythian ubuntu 12.04 is not supported any more at all by anyone, I'd start by upgrading that.
10:16 cait @later tell LeeJ ping!
10:16 huginn cait: The operation succeeded.
10:17 cait Harold: i think what eythian said - you should think about a general server update, because not getting security fixes etc is bad
10:21 Harold my main problem is that I can't upgrade my ubuntu 12.04 to 16.04
10:22 Harold I have already tried several times but still to no afford
10:22 eythian you're going to have to, it's pretty much the only option.
10:22 Harold for now I just want to transfer the Koha data from 12.04 to a new instance of koha 17.05 on a new server
10:23 Harold but my challenge there is that the database structure of the new version is different from the old version
10:23 Harold how do I install a fresh 12.04 version of Koha instead?
10:24 Harold so that I can just transfer the database then upgrade from there
10:26 Harold everytime I add repositories it only either oldstable stable or unstable
10:26 Harold oldstable is already version 16
10:27 Harold how do I make it 12.04? so that I will have a fresh installatio of version 12.04 to a new server with upgraded OS then I will just export and import the koha database from the old server
10:27 Harold please help thank you :)
10:28 eythian moving the database over should be fine. It will attempt to bring it up to a current version.
10:28 eythian You'll want to test this first.
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10:41 cait magnuse: really like the new'is logo
10:45 * kidclamp waves
10:46 marcelr o/
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11:10 maya hi to all
11:10 maya how we can monitor and find that our koha application is working fine? Is there any place or files that we should look for errors and messages frequently?
11:15 kidclamp hi maya, there are log files, they may have some noise. The about page has sections to warn of system configuration issues, maybe I am not sure exactly what you are looking for
11:36 maya kidclamp < we are implementing koha, as koha is open source we are not sure about it's stability in production environment, how often it crashed and if something happened we need to ready .
11:42 kidclamp open source is more stable I would say :-) but I work here
11:43 kidclamp Koha is very stable and used by many (many many) libraries
11:44 kidclamp There are support vendors too if you need server support etc.
11:44 kidclamp marcelr, still here?
11:44 marcelr yes
11:44 kidclamp you know some about OAI?
11:44 marcelr dont use it often
11:45 kidclamp bug 15108 seems to have made OAI give deleted records first and by default - I am wondering if this is expected
11:45 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=15108 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, ere.maijala, RESOLVED FIXED, OAI-PMH provider improvements
11:46 marcelr should have a look again; did the sort order change ?
11:47 kidclamp I think so
11:49 kidclamp yeah, we do deleted order by biblio first, then existing order by biblionumner
11:49 kidclamp is causing problems when EBSCO harvests
11:50 maya so you are saying installing stable koha version on debian in reliable. But if anything bad happens where we can look for support ,  because in india there are very few affordable koha support options are  available and and theire expertise is questionable then how we can continue with that?
11:50 marcelr kidclamp: is there an option to exclude deleted records?
11:53 kidclamp if using a resumption token yes - it seems to - but as I understand the harvest used by providers simply makes a list records request and continues from that - default there is to include deleted now (not sure if it was in past), but now they come first and that seems to be a change
11:55 kidclamp I am going to file a bug and see if I can get olli or ere to respond
11:56 marcelr good
11:56 kidclamp thanks marcelr
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11:59 maya kidclamp - so you are saying installing stable koha version on debian in reliable. But if anything bad happens where we can look for support ,  because in india there are very few affordable koha support options are  available and and theire expertise is questionable then how we can continue with that?  fully managed hosting support is all we need to have to run koha in production envoirnment?
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12:03 kidclamp maya: As a general statement I would say Koha is stable, for managing/support I don't know that I can answer your question, it may be something better to ask on the listserv
12:04 maya ok, thanky you kidclamp :-)
12:05 maya kidclamp - what is "listserv" ?
12:06 kidclamp lists?
12:06 wahanui try 'listserv', kidclamp
12:06 kidclamp listserv?
12:06 wahanui try 'mailing list', kidclamp
12:06 kidclamp mailing list?
12:06 wahanui well, mailing list is at[…]ha-mailing-lists/
12:06 kidclamp maya^
12:06 kidclamp 3 tries, every time, i never learn
12:06 jcamins wahanui: really? Two corrections?
12:06 wahanui jcamins: i haven't a clue
12:07 kidclamp don't ruin my game jcamins - someday I will get it right
12:07 jcamins You could stack the deck, you know.
12:07 cait kidclamp: wasn't there a pref about the deleted in OAI?
12:08 maya great, thank you for your kind support :-)
12:09 kidclamp afaict cait that only affects the listing for Identify verb
12:09 kidclamp tells you what to expect of deleted records
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12:18 cait oh
12:18 cait good to know :)
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12:47 tcohen morning
12:51 marcelr hi tcohen
12:51 tcohen hi marcelr
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12:53 oleonard HELLO
12:54 marcelr HEY OLEONARD
12:54 wahanui hmmm... OLEONARD is still here, if you just wish hard enough. or Koha's master UI designer
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12:58 oleonard Thanks for getting into the spirit of things wahanui
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13:03 tcohen hehe, good morning oleonard
13:07 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #81: FAILURE in 30 sec: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/81/
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13:16 magnuse that was quick, jenkins
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13:30 tuxayo_ magnuse: is it normal that the link to the build goes 404?
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13:31 magnuse hm, not sure
13:31 magnuse i rarely click on them :-)
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13:37 jajm tcohen, hi! i added a comment to https://bugs.koha-community.or[…]_bug.cgi?id=19234, can you take a look ?
13:37 huginn Bug 19234: enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Signed Off , Add query parameters handling helpers
13:38 tcohen jajm: yes, I was about to post an answer
13:38 jajm :)
13:38 jajm thanks
13:39 tcohen jajm: thanks for your input
13:39 tcohen in short, it all points to having Koha::Objects->search_for_api
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14:28 eythian wahanui: email list is <reply>try 'lists', $who
14:28 wahanui OK, eythian.
14:29 * cait waves
14:29 * LeeJ waves
14:31 * magnuse waves
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14:36 kidclamp trying to get me to do another step magnuse?
14:37 magnuse another step?
14:37 wahanui another step is just to check for general disk I/O problems, and check my RAID settings on the filesystem you're using for zebra's indexes
14:37 magnuse ah yes, that is exactly what i was hoping kidclamp would do
14:38 kidclamp heh, I always start at lists? and take 3 hops to get my answer, now I can start with email list? and take 4
14:43 magnuse ah, but then eythian is perhaps your culprit?
14:43 * eythian blames magnuse
14:44 eythian in the expectation that magnuse will then blame me
14:44 magnuse git irc-blame eythian
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14:55 tuxayo_ I heard about a bot that checks if the patches still apply on master. Is that still the case?
14:55 oleonard That bot was active for a while, but no longer.
14:57 tuxayo_ Was is also running the test suite?
14:57 wahanui okay, tuxayo_.
14:58 tuxayo_ wahanui: what?
14:58 wahanui i haven't a clue, tuxayo_
14:58 tuxayo_ XD
14:59 tuxayo_ Did wahanui just ran something due to my message?
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15:09 oleonard Was?
15:09 wahanui Was is, like, cql.. or forget.. jcamins care to pipe up ;)
15:09 oleonard Was?
15:09 wahanui i guess Was is running the test suite?
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15:12 eythian[…]lee/20591664.html <-- pipe broke in Berlin
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16:39 reiveune bye
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16:40 jenkins Project Koha_16.11_D8 build #82: SUCCESS in 3 hr 24 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_16.11_D8/82/
16:40 jenkins pongtawat: Bug 17610 - Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be
16:40 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=17610 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Stable , [16.11.x] Allow the number of plack workers and max connections to be set in koha-conf.xml
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17:12 oleonard Bug 19641 is going to be a beast.
17:12 huginn Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19641 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, oleonard, ASSIGNED , Move patron templates to the footer
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17:45 oleonard Anyone know who manages
17:46 edveal No idea.
17:48 oleonard @later tell rangi Do you manage Wondering who can make it up to date
17:48 huginn oleonard: The operation succeeded.
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20:00 * cait waves
20:00 cait hi #koha
20:15 edveal Hi cait
20:15 cait hi edveal :)
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21:01 kidclamp_away oelonard++
21:01 kidclamp_away oleonard++
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21:05 cait oh what did he do this time? :)
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