IRC log for #koha, 2017-10-13

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05:45 LibraryClaire morning
05:59 Nemo_bis mogge
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06:17 alex_a bonjour
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06:33 marcelr hi #koha
06:34 LibraryClaire hi marcelr
06:34 marcelr hey LibraryClaire
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06:39 reiveune hello
06:43 * magnuse waves
06:44 magnuse way up in the north of norway they had an earthquake yesterday, measuring 1.9 Richter. i bet kiwis are not impressed
06:44 LibraryClaire hi magnuse
06:45 magnuse guten morgen BüchereiKlara
06:45 LibraryClaire o/
06:48 magnuse \o
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07:02 gaetan_B hello
07:10 magnuse bonojur gaetan_B
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08:28 Guest6582 Project Koha_17.05_D8 build #36: UNSTABLE in 37 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]Koha_17.05_D8/36/
08:28 Guest6582 * Bug 19437: Rearranging tests for CancelExpiredReserves
08:28 Guest6582 * josef.moravec: Bug 19437: (followup) Rearrange CancelExpiredReserves tests - fix typos
08:28 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19437 normal, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Stable , Rearrange CancelExpiredReserves tests
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08:50 eythian magnuse: we call that "a truck must have driven somewhere nearby"
09:03 magnuse hehe, nice
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09:51 marcelr thx kidclamp
10:02 kidclamp np
10:02 cait marcel++
10:14 * magnuse hopes someone can find enough round tuits to qa bug 8995
10:14 huginn` Bug[…]w_bug.cgi?id=8995 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, julian.maurice, Signed Off , Show OpenURL links in OPAC search results
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10:34 Phon how can i install koha on window server 2008
10:35 Phon how can i install koha on window server 2008 ?
10:40 Phon how can i install koha on window server 2008 ?
10:45 kidclamp Hi Phon, Koha on Windows is not supported (I don't think it works right now either) You could install it onto a virtual machine running linux
10:47 kidclamp jajm++
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10:50 Phon Thanks ,kidclamp
11:19 cait hm new offline circ tool
11:19 cait was there some information about it somewhere?
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11:39 oleonard Hi #koha
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11:52 magnuse hiya oleonard
11:53 cait hi oleonard
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12:24 cait fridolin1: has the offline tool been redone recently? do you know if it's possible to add translations like for the old one?
12:24 fridolin1 cait: indeed KOCT has be rewritten for allow new FF plugins
12:24 cait fridolin1: is there ar repository we can make patches for?
12:24 fridolin1 for translation, ask matts
12:24 cait for example spell koha KOha
12:24 cait Koha
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12:25 cait matts: ping!
12:27 matts cait, pong !
12:27 matts Hello !
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12:28 tomascohen[m] hi there
12:29 oleonard Wow, new KOCT looks fancy!
12:29 matts cait, it is possible to add translations
12:30 matts cait, it is currently on one of our non-public repository, I'll look into it.
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12:33 matts cait, we'll open our repo. If you need so help about how to do the translations (more or less tricky), just ask.
12:33 cait matts: the old one was also here:[…]0abf8f328c10fce6f
12:34 fridolin1 cait: here is the new repo :
12:34 fridolin1
12:34 fridolin1 jsute turned it public
12:35 cait cool - maybe you could send to the mailing list sometime? the new layout hit us as a surprise :)
12:35 cait have to update documetnation for the 'emergency case'
12:35 cait others might want to do that too
12:35 fridolin1 we just fergot to change default visiblity
12:36 cait wondering how to best send you patches
12:36 magnuse is it this one?[…]refox/addon/koct/
12:36 fridolin1 cait: matts : do you think we delete koct from contrib ?
12:37 cait maybe archive it
12:37 cait some people might still be stuck with old firefox
12:37 matts yes magnuse it's this one
12:38 magnuse cool!
12:39 cait matts: how best to contribute? email patches?
12:39 cait i see you are using gitlab, but not sure if it's possible to make a merge request from outside?
12:40 matts cait, that's a good question. I don't know either.
12:40 cait hm
12:40 cait ah
12:40 matts cait, I guess email patches will do the trick for now, while we figure something better ?
12:40 cait i can make a branch on my gitlab and you can merge that in maybe?
12:41 cait I will send you the link once I have something and we can see :)
12:41 matts cait, yep, sure !
12:41 cait still think would be good to mention it in the newsletter or somewhere that there is a new plugin :)
12:41 matts The main problem with translations is that currently the main html page is not translatable. You have to copy it and replace strings. I wish I could have found a better way, but I'm currently stuck with this.
12:42 cait oh
12:42 matts cait, yep sure
12:42 cait so you woul dhave to create a german plugin..
12:42 cait hm.
12:42 cait and provide that yourself
12:42 matts The options page, and the JS messages are translatable, on the other
12:42 cait even more reason to send an email - maybe someone can fix it
12:43 matts cait, nope, you can copy the main page in the plugin itself, currently there is: koct.html and koct-fr_FR.html
12:43 cait ah
12:43 matts There could be a koct-de_DE.html
12:43 cait will it choose it automatically if there is a de_DE directory?
12:43 matts I can't believe they did not come up with something about translating html pages in web-ext. Doh.
12:45 matts cait, yep, it will, it you add a "mainPage" in your translation file.
12:45 matts fr_FR/messages.json:  "mainPage": {
12:45 matts "message": "koct-fr_FR.html"
12:45 matts },
12:45 cait ok, will try and see if i can figure it out
12:45 cait thx!
12:46 matts okay !
12:46 magnuse someone feel like anhancing the sql "editor" with something like it can have autocomplete for tables and columns as well as SQL keywords
12:47 cait btw it's nice - just was a surprise :)
12:48 oleonard magnuse: I've had the same thought
12:48 magnuse oleonard: cool, just go ahead ;-)
12:49 oleonard I have a vague memory of trying it... Not sure if it's real or not.
12:52 cait matts, fridolin1: is it possible the plugin only works with 16.11 something and not with 3.22?
12:52 cait we have reports about it not working with 3.22.21
12:53 matts Hmm, it works the same way as the old plugin, using /cgi-bin/koha/offline_circ/
12:53 matts So it should work
12:54 matts Common configuration error: forgot to include the protocol before the host. It IS needed.
12:54 kidclamp cait is 19116 in 16.11?
12:54 magnuse bug 19116
12:54 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19116 critical, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Stable , Holds not set to waiting when "Confirm" is used
12:54 cait i need to test, i am not sure
12:55 magnuse fridolin1 says "Pushed to 17.05.x, will be in 17.05.05."
12:55 kidclamp the cause/dependency is, and I think we have been affecte
12:55 kidclamp magnuse indeed - does it affect 16.11? better question
12:56 cait oh other question
12:56 cait i am not getting the item form with acqcreateitemonorder in the latest 16.11 - any idea?
12:56 cait the problem seems to sometimes disappear/reappear... quite bad
12:57 kidclamp hmm..have not seen that
12:58 fridolin1 our clients 16.11 have the problem corrected by 19116 cait
12:59 fridolin1 we have started to apply the patch on some of them
12:59 fridolin1 its a critical
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13:00 cait matts: we will check that (protocol) - thx
13:00 cait kidclamp: i did not push it yet, next time I push it will be - just wanted to confirm the bug first
13:01 cait kidclamp: was travelling the last few days, but will catch up before string freeze
13:01 magnuse anyone familiar with edsapi-koha-plugin around? i can't seem to get the apache config right for it
13:01 kidclamp what is happening magnuse
13:02 fridolin1 cait++
13:02 magnuse kidclamp: i got the search script to run, but now i get a 500 error on some .js file
13:02 fridolin1 i'm also on pushing before string freeze
13:03 fridolin1 plugins are hell
13:03 fridolin1 :(
13:03 magnuse kidclamp: the docs do not mention configuring apache, but it does not seem to work without it?
13:04 magnuse i set Alias /plugin "/var/lib/koha/prv/plugins", then the perl scripts in the opac displayed their source code
13:04 cait anyone an idea about my acq item form?
13:05 magnuse changed it to ScriptAlias /plugin "/var/lib/koha/prv/plugins" - ten it worked for a bit, but then it stopped working, with 500 error for a .js file
13:06 magnuse I'm guessing the js was cached from the first attempt and so it worked, but now the server is trying to run the js and everything else as scripts
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13:08 kidclamp yeah, I think in general you need that bit for any plugin
13:08 kidclamp and need to add permissions
13:09 kidclamp see the notes on coverflow plugin
13:09 kidclamp[…]-plugin-coverflow
13:10 kidclamp the apache 2.4+ section
13:10 kidclamp plus this:
13:10 kidclamp Options +ExecCGI
13:10 kidclamp AddHandler cgi-script .pl
13:11 kidclamp magnuse ^ that is usually all we need, and sometimes to pull the main js through the userjs, but I htink the latest version doesn't requie that
13:11 magnuse ah yes, that does look promising!
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13:20 magnuse kidclamp: these two lines seems to fix it for me:
13:20 magnuse ScriptAlias /plugin/Koha/Plugin/EDS/opac /var/lib/koha/site/plugins/Koha/Plugin/EDS/opac
13:20 magnuse Alias /plugin "/var/lib/koha/site/plugins"
13:20 magnuse kidclamp++ for getting me on the right track
13:21 kidclamp awesome sauce
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13:21 oleonard That'll be one dollar for the awesome sauce jar kidclamp
13:22 kidclamp I held my phone against my screen, android pay enabled, you want the money you got to take it
13:24 oleonard awesome.
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13:31 magnuse have a nice weekend, #koha!
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14:05 tcohen hi
14:08 Joubu hi #koha
14:09 Joubu hola tcohen
14:09 tcohen hola Joubu
14:09 tcohen hola tomascohen[m]
14:09 tcohen tf is that [m]
14:10 Joubu seen that testbuilder is failing on 17.05? The same failure you try to hide 2d ago by deleting the history of master_d8? ;)
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14:11 Joubu I guess it's because it generates twice the same branchcode (very unlucky)
14:12 tcohen hahaha, it was a mistake
14:13 tcohen maybe we should make TestBuilder use the columns maximum size
14:13 tcohen to avoid this situations
14:15 Joubu it never happened before and it happens twice in 2d (?)
14:24 Joubu thanks khall for your work on 12768!
14:24 khall np!
14:25 khall if it needs any more work I'd be happy to do it, but I think i'm in too deep to be comfortable qa'ing at this point ; )
14:27 Joubu and I will feel more comfortable pushing it with another QA stamp :)
14:28 eythian[…]stock26104059.jpg <-- Joubu
14:31 Joubu eythian: you are not part of the QA team, it's not valid!
14:34 reiveune bye
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14:34 eythian[…]amp-437781154.jpg <-- Joubu
14:34 Joubu :)
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14:42 mtompset Greetings, #koha.
14:43 mtompset @seen kidclamp
14:43 huginn` mtompset: kidclamp was last seen in #koha 1 hour, 21 minutes, and 1 second ago: <kidclamp> I held my phone against my screen, android pay enabled, you want the money you got to take it
14:43 kidclamp what'd i do mtompset?
14:44 mtompset Nothing, but I know you might be interested in helping. :)
14:44 mtompset Since you are on the user list for bug 16690
14:44 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=16690 minor, P5 - low, ---, mtompset, Needs Signoff , Installing DB on remote server fails without *.* permissions
14:44 cait matts++ fridolin++ # offline circ :)
14:45 mtompset It's been sitting there with no love for ages.
14:45 mtompset I should have brought it up on the global bug squashing day, but other projects had my attention.
14:47 mtompset I should check if it still applies.
14:47 matts :)
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14:53 * mtompset cheers
14:53 mtompset Yes, still cleanly applies. :)
15:00 kidclamp if you have an extra roundtuit I'll look mtompset :-)
15:02 mtompset https://marklabutis.files.word[…]roundtuitback.jpg
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15:21 kidclamp @later tell LeeJ ping me if you have a chance
15:21 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
15:21 kidclamp mtompset++ will do my best to use that today
15:31 mtompset I appreciate that :)
15:32 * mtompset laughs, "I was looking for him too on Facebook."
15:35 cait matts: could you take a look at another cas patch maybe? msotly regression testing, it should not break anything for you (single log out)
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15:49 Joubu I'd like to push bug 19431 and bug 18884, QAers around?
15:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19431 major, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Signed Off , Error when trying to checkout an unknown barcode
15:49 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18884 major, P5 - low, ---, dcook, Signed Off , Advanced search on staff client, Availability limit not properly limiting
15:49 Joubu they are majors that need to be backported
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16:23 * LeeJ waves
16:23 LeeJ hi #koha
16:24 LeeJ @later tell kidclamp ping!
16:24 huginn` LeeJ: The operation succeeded.
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16:59 huginn` New commit(s) kohagit: Bug 18923: Warning in Biblio::GetCOinSBiblio <[…]c13dac0a80c86f9ce> / Bug 19186: DBRev <[…]3962bde8c72b0de18> / Bug 19186: (QA follow-up) Insert syspref SelfCheckoutByLogin if missing <[…]a.git;a=commitdif
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17:06 mtompset Shoot... oleonard beat me to 19431... Serves me right for getting distracted. :)
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17:26 kidclamp pong
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17:32 Guest6582 Project Koha_Master_D8 build #264: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://jenkins.koha-community[…]ha_Master_D8/264/
17:32 Guest6582 * nick: Bug 18374: QueryAutoTruncate unit tests
17:32 Guest6582 * nick: Bug 18374: Respect QueryAutoTruncate syspref in Elasticsearch
17:32 Guest6582 * Tomás Cohen Arazi: Bug 18374: (QA follow-up) Remove warning in Elasticsearch/
17:32 Guest6582 * julian.maurice: Bug 18374: (QA follow-up) Tidy up code
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18374 major, P3, ---, nick, Pushed to Master , Respect QueryAutoTruncate syspref in Elasticsearch
17:32 Guest6582 * nick: Bug 18374: (follow-up) Add support and tests for quoted strings
17:32 Guest6582 * julian.maurice: Bug 18374: (QA follow-up) Simplify _truncate_terms
17:32 Guest6582 * julian.maurice: Bug 18374: (QA follow-up) Fix auto truncation for field:"value"
17:32 Guest6582 * kyle: Bug 19425: Adding orders from order file with multiple budgets per
17:32 Guest6582 * Bug 19425: (QA follow-up) Resolve 'push on reference experimental' warn
17:32 Guest6582 * david.gustafsson: Bug 19453: Incorrect jQuery selector for fund drop down validation
17:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19083: Fix 'show all details' link on closed basket detail
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19425 major, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , Adding orders from order file with multiple budgets per record triggers error
17:32 Guest6582 * kyle: Bug 19275: clubs table broken at the opac if public enrollment is not
17:32 Guest6582 * david.bourgault: Bug 19422: Missing DROP TABLES in kohastructure.sql
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19453 normal, P5 - low, ---, glasklas, Pushed to Master , Client side validation broken for "Fund" select
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19083 normal, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , 'Show all details' checkbox on basket summary page is broken
17:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19422: Make sure it will never happen again
17:32 Guest6582 * josef.moravec: Bug 19438: Fix sorting by date due in
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19275 normal, P5 - low, ---, kyle, Pushed to Master , clubs table broken at the opac if public enrollment is not allowed
17:32 Guest6582 * alexbuckley: Bug 19413: Moving the OK and Cancel inputs to the top of the 008 builder
17:32 Guest6582 * alexbuckley: Bug 19413: (follow-up) Changed fieldset id value
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19422 minor, P5 - low, ---, david.bourgault, Pushed to Master , kohastructure.sql missing DROP TABLES
17:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19186: Change pref choice for SelfCheckoutByLogin - barcode vs
17:32 Guest6582 * julian.maurice: Bug 19186: (QA follow-up) Insert syspref SelfCheckoutByLogin if missing
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19438 minor, P5 - low, ---, josef.moravec, Pushed to Master , Sorting by due date in overdues listing does not work as expected
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19413 trivial, P5 - low, ---, alexbuckley, Pushed to Master , Move the location of the Ok and cancel buttons to the 008 cataloguing builder
17:32 Guest6582 * Jonathan Druart: Bug 19186: DBRev
17:32 Guest6582 * Bug 18923: Warning in Biblio::GetCOinSBiblio
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19186 trivial, P5 - low, ---, jonathan.druart, Pushed to Master , SelfCheckoutByLogin should list 'cardnumber' as an option instead of 'barcode'
17:32 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18923 trivial, P5 - low, ---,, Pushed to Master , Resolve a warn in Biblio::GetCOinSBiblio
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17:47 * LeeJ waves to cait
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17:59 * mtompset waves to LeeJ
18:00 * LeeJ waves to mtompset
18:00 mtompset What is the appropriate reply to pong, kidclamp? :)
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18:01 LeeJ mtompset: perhaps one serving zero? :)
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18:02 mtompset LeeJ++ # I like it.
18:02 LeeJ :D
18:02 * LeeJ is a ping pong nerd so he got a chuckle out of it
18:17 kidclamp caboose stat tickling?
18:24 pianohacker
18:25 oleonard Hi pianohacker
18:27 pianohacker bug 18936
18:27 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=18936 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, koha-bugs, Needs Signoff , Convert issuingrules fields to circulation_rules
18:27 pianohacker hi oleonard !
18:27 mtompset oh bleep me. Elastic Search turned on.
18:27 * oleonard just finished his first draft of the staff client css to scss conversion
18:30 mtompset Hi, can anyone explain how to get an oldschool koha git install to work with elastic search?
18:30 LeeJ mtompset: you'd probably need to go through the manual install..will find the link one sec.
18:31 pianohacker oleonard: :D!
18:31 LeeJ mtompset: https://wiki.koha-community.or[…]iki/Elasticsearch
18:31 kidclamp mtompset, need the stanza in koha-conf.xml, otherwise it should work I think
18:34 mtompset Oh... stinky syspref.
18:34 LeeJ kidclamp++
18:35 mtompset No... it was royally broken.
18:35 mtompset Though, I suspect perhaps there was a reindex I needed to run?
18:36 mtompset There. Back to Zebra, and I'm happy again.
18:36 LeeJ mtompset: when I last played with ES kidclamp told me about running misc/search_tools/ -v -d to re-index under ES
18:37 tcohen mtompset: 19462
18:37 mtompset Yes, I think that was what I was missing. But I'm not going to try. I'm just trying to test something. :)
18:37 tcohen you wlll like it
18:38 mtompset No, because none of my vagrant up's are elastic search at this time.
18:39 tcohen poor mtompset :-P
18:40 mtompset Though, I'm thinking that we are more and more tightening the speicifications of various libraries such that stretch is a more feasible candidate for this.
18:42 mtompset oleonard++ # 19461 is so pretty!
18:44 oleonard Cool, thanks mtompset
18:48 mtompset And it gets rid of that ugly UI drop-down bit.
18:48 mtompset Signed off. :)
18:49 mtompset I suppose given my aversion to ES, I should probably look at 19462 for you, tcohen.
18:49 pianohacker mtompset or oleonard: do you have a screenshot? My circ rules editor work has a floating toolbar, would be good to make it match a bit
18:49 mtompset I believe he put one on the bug.
18:49 tcohen mtompset: if you have any aversion to ES, please stay away
18:49 tcohen I don' twant you to fail it
18:49 kidclamp :-)
18:49 tcohen because of your mood :-D
18:49 oleonard It's the same kind that we have with addbiblio and patron adds
18:50 pianohacker He did, cool :)
18:50 mtompset tcohen: I won't fail because of my mood. I'll fail it for lack of documentation when I can't get it working. :P
18:50 tcohen mtompset: KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 vagrant up
18:50 tcohen seems easy enough
18:51 tcohen lots of work has been done so a single command can get you a working environment
18:51 mtompset -- kind of like the offline circulation tool. Where is the documentation that tells me how to generate the offline DB to use?
18:51 mtompset I'll spin up a stretch elastic search.
18:51 tcohen ah, an exotic setup, you are on your own
18:51 tcohen :-D
18:51 mtompset if it doesn't work for stretch, then we're bleeped.
18:52 tcohen OAI is broken in stretch, to start with
18:52 mtompset I don't use OAI either. :)
18:53 mtompset just check to make sure I don't have tinkering code lying around.... :)
18:53 mtompset then I'll spin up, and go for a drive. :)
18:53 mtompset should be done by the time I'm back from picking up the wife. :)
18:53 tcohen mtompset: I can't imagine how you can't get Elasticsearch working
18:54 mtompset old git install, not kohadevbox. :P
18:54 tcohen it should work, it is just some dependencies and the usual source tree...
18:54 Joubu easy, backup your DB, run vagrant up, then reinject your DB
18:55 mtompset custom koha-conf xml stuffs. :P
18:56 mtompset Good stretch VM is nice and empty... off to blast it to a completely fresh install.
18:58 mtompset so is my jessie...
18:58 tcohen vagrant init debian/stretch64 ?
18:58 mtompset fine, I'll go standard.
18:58 mtompset No vagrant destroy, vagrant up.
18:58 oleonard Bye all
18:58 mtompset I said blasy.
18:58 tcohen bye!
18:58 mtompset blast.
19:08 kidclamp mtompset, you can use the bws sandboxes for es too
19:14 mtompset No, that's okay, kidclamp. I need to have a testing environment that works for this locally.
19:16 mtompset okay... decent progress on the vagrant up....
19:22 mtompset Wow.. we have completion... okay that was bug 19462?
19:22 huginn` Bug[…]_bug.cgi?id=19462 enhancement, P5 - low, ---, tomascohen, Needs Signoff , Add a koha-elasticsearch command
19:22 mtompset Yep... okay... let's see...
19:27 tcohen mtompset: you weren't aware of completion in packages installs? WTF
19:27 mtompset completion?
19:27 mtompset tab completion?
19:28 mtompset I meant it finished.
19:28 mtompset I wasn't expecting it to finish vagrant up'ing so fast.
19:31 mtompset YIKES! That's a nasty deprecation message on the rebuild_elastic_search
19:33 mtompset Okay... I just catalogued via z39.50 two records, and I can't find them.
19:33 mtompset They are the only two records in my database.
19:33 mtompset Why is my elastic search failing?
19:36 mtompset Sorry, can't get ES working.
19:36 mtompset Got to run.
19:36 tcohen mtompset: you ran KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 vagrant up, right?
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20:18 kidclamp @later tell mtompset try searching for '*' in ES - or enabling autotruncation
20:18 huginn` kidclamp: The operation succeeded.
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20:52 mtompset @later tell tcohen Yes. vagrant destroy followed by KOHA_ELASTICSEARCH=1 vagrant up -- I cut and paste it from here to make sure it was right.
20:52 huginn` mtompset: The operation succeeded.
20:52 mtompset kidclamp: * worked at finding something.
20:53 mtompset Oh there... 'horn' found it... but 'green' didn't.
20:54 kidclamp yeah, ES wants exact
20:54 kidclamp horn <> horns
20:54 mtompset green is in "Contents" not title.
20:54 mtompset horn is in title.
20:55 mtompset Why doesn't ES search "Contents"?
20:55 kidclamp it may not be indexed by default
20:55 kidclamp check the search configuration
20:55 mtompset Well, that's a pain.
20:55 mtompset Because the only reason it got imported was because I used Green on a z39.50 search to import it. ;)
20:57 mtompset okay, so ES is working, just not as intuitively as I expected.
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20:58 mtompset ooo... let me try....
20:59 mtompset Hey, it does make that archaic kaboom problem go away. :)
20:59 mtompset The with searches starting with and or * -- or something like that.
21:00 mtompset tcohen: ES is working... just not intuitively. :)
21:01 mtompset And as such, I should be able to sign off your bug later this evening.
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